If Beverley misses the playoffs...

[magnifier661]

I'll happily take a weakened opponent and move on to the next round without giving two shits if they were at full strength or not.

Yep, why care about the strength?

 

[RR7]

I'll happily take a weakened opponent and move on to the next round without giving two shits if they were at full strength or not.

Totally agree. I hope we face 4 weakened opponents in the playoffs on the way to a title. Are you gonna sit at the parade and feel cheapened by it? I won't.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Yep, why care about the strength?

As is traditional, I point to the great philosopher who once said, "tough shit."

 

[Boob-No-More]

Hopefully the early return will mean his mobility is compromised.

Don't count on it. According to an article by ESPNs' Marc Stein:

"But even after Andrews confirmed Monday that Beverley would not need surgery, it's believed that the backcourt defensive specialist will be out up to two more weeks to fully recover."

So, he should be 100% at least a week before the playoffs start.

BNM

 

[PapaG]

I don't have the link but you could google Gary Payton's interview this year at OSU and he says players aren't allowed to play defense in the modern game. No hand checking, etc..it's a good interview. I think refs let a lot more go in the 80s than they do now unless you were fouling the poster boys that owned the shoe market like Jordan and Shaq. I'd like to hear what Sheed has to say about it or Charles Oakley.

This is true, unless the player is named Avery Bradley, Chris Paul, or Patrick Beverley.

 

[Pinwheel1]

This is true, unless the player is named Avery Bradley, Chris Paul, or Patrick Beverley.

It also seems to be inconsistent depending on the size/position of the player. Cp3 gets touched 20 feet from the basket and their is a good chance the whistle blows. Whereis the guys down low are able to extend the arm into the opponents back and......no whistle. I like Zebo, but I could not believe how much they let him push/punch LA in the back with his forearm last night. No wonder LA prefers to take so many jump shots.

 

[dviss1]

That FTs per FGA are lower than they used to be? Yes, because I can read.

Everything else was just conjecture; feel free to agree or disagree or whatever. And I'm not talking late 80's bad boy versus today. I know the league was on its way to getting way more physical than it is today. I'm talking 1983-1984. Pointing at LeBron and saying the league is soft is fine, but maybe there's more to the story than one jackass trying to spoil everything because he's not nearly as talented as his predecessors.

Here, watch Jordan's 1984 game where he scored 40+ for the first time. Every foul is ticky-tacky, the defense is soft and there's little physical contact.



To try and back myself up on this, the league average DRtg back in 1984 was 107.6 (which only 10 teams were above), which would be good for 20th in 2014. By way of comparison, Portland of 2014 is an above-average defensive team in 1984 (107.3 DRtg).

Look how you want to make a smartass comment for nothing. I wasn't even talking about FTs per FG. I was talking about believing that the game is way more brutal now. I was asking if you actually believed that. That obviously is not true. Even in the 90's the game was still rougher. They didn't start changing the handcheck rule until 94. What does defense rating have anything to do with how rough the game is? That stat can't be applied to determine the roughness of the game.

 

[magnifier661]

Don't count on it. According to an article by ESPNs' Marc Stein:

"But even after Andrews confirmed Monday that Beverley would not need surgery, it's believed that the backcourt defensive specialist will be out up to two more weeks to fully recover."

So, he should be 100% at least a week before the playoffs start.

BNM

Looks like Barton has to do a cheap shot on harden and take him out in the first round

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Look how you want to make a smartass comment for nothing. I wasn't even talking about FTs per FG. I was talking about believing that the game is way more brutal now. I was asking if you actually believed that. That obviously is not true. Even in the 90's the game was still rougher. They didn't start changing the handcheck rule until 94. What does defense rating have anything to do with how rough the game is? That stat can't be applied to determine the roughness of the game.

Okay, you win.

 

[TehChad]

I'll happily take a weakened opponent and move on to the next round without giving two shits if they were at full strength or not.

To each his own I guess. I'd always much rather earn it no questions asked, I can guarantee you not one Blazer would say "nah, I hope every team we play has injuries to key players so that it's easier for us to win a title."

 

[dviss1]

To each his own I guess. I'd always much rather earn it no questions asked, I can guarantee you not one Blazer would say "nah, I hope every team we play has injuries to key players so that it's easier for us to win a title."

It's like this:

[video]

 

[TehChad]

lol- Indeed! It wouldn't mean much if Steamboat beat Flair while he had a broken arm or something (given that we're pretending the WWE is real)

 

[BigGameDamian]

[video]

 

[KingSpeed]

Apparently, he's decided to skip surgery and should be ready by playoffs.

 

[Natebishop3]

Apparently, he's decided to skip surgery and should be ready by playoffs.

We should all start sending him pics of Brandon Roy.

 

[KingSpeed]

We should all start sending him pics of Brandon Roy.

Definitely. He's making a mistake.

 

[Natebishop3]

Definitely. He's making a mistake.

All these guys hear is "you'll be back in 2 weeks" and they don't look down the road to the damage this does to their knees. It's very short sighted and stupid.

 

[TheBlueDoggy]

I'm really confused as to what kind of meniscus tear he has. I've had 3 surgeries on my knee, all of which included removing, anchoring, and/or debriding some meniscus. Every instance where there was healing to take place where removal was not necessary, I had to be non weight bearing for at least 6 weeks for it to heal. I don't see how anything will heal on its own if he is playing on it. Oh well, his future.

 

[Natebishop3]

I just keep thinking of this gif and I can't let go of how much I really dislike the guy. I hope his leg falls off.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I hope he runs into Damian's adamantium knee and drops like a rock.

 

[Natebishop3]

I would pay money to watch Dame and Beverley go 1v1, just so we could see Lillard embarrass that scrub.

In the words of Bill Murray:

"Medium talent!"