If the General were held today, how would you vote?

[dviss1]

We have never had a truly evil Republican President, we had a crooked SOB and they forced him to resign. We have had list of Democrat idealist that were near evil, including the current.
So the system works best when we select the Republican, the system does not work well when we screw up selecting the Democrat.

Hilarious...

 

[MarAzul]

Hilarious...

Not much added there, but I am glad you are entertained.

 

[MarAzul]

Spent about the last 40 minutes listening to Glen Beck. I don't listen to that guy as a rule, sort of a whacko that never gets to the point. Today I had to go get some boat parts and he got my attention, he is running off at the mouth about Trump not disavowing David Duke clearly! I mean the guy is railing about it, comparing Trump to Hitler. Then he has a side kick in there with him, kicking Trumps arse about not Really being a Christian! He says he doesn't think Trump acts like he has been saved and accepts Jesus as God and his savior.

Geez sounds very much like people on this board. The surprising thing is, I never thought I would find people on this board in lock step agreement with Beck! Weird!
The dumb ass that claims to be the authority on what a Christian is is sickening. The both of them seem to be shilling for Clinton. Not so sure they are bright enough to know it though.

 

[e_blazer]

Dump Trump.
Pillory Hillary.

I'd never vote for either of them even if they were the only candidates on the ballot. 320 million people in the country and we end up with these two schmucks? My bet is that the indictment for Hillary comes down just after it's too late for Bernie to win enough primaries to get the nomination and then Obama & Co. pick the candidate.

 

[BrianFromWA]

As it stands right now, I'd vote for anybody running against Hillary.

Bernie v. Trump would be a conundrum. I don't like Trump much, and he doesn't represent much of anything I'm for other than "not DC politics as usual". But even if Bernie's elected, there's NO WAY his policies get voted through the Senate and House unless there's enough compromise that they're not Bernie's ideas any more.

Obvs, things can change. But one thing that will not be seen is my vote ever for Hillary Clinton. And since I'm an I-4 corridor voter in FL, the vote kind of counts! Woo Hoo!

 

[Denny Crane]

As it stands right now, I'd vote for anybody running against Hillary.

Bernie v. Trump would be a conundrum. I don't like Trump much, and he doesn't represent much of anything I'm for other than "not DC politics as usual". But even if Bernie's elected, there's NO WAY his policies get voted through the Senate and House unless there's enough compromise that they're not Bernie's ideas any more.

Obvs, things can change. But one thing that will not be seen is my vote ever for Hillary Clinton. And since I'm an I-4 corridor voter in FL, the vote kind of counts! Woo Hoo!

I was just in Cocoa Beach for a company offsite. Last week.

 

[Denny Crane]

So basically as of right now its Trump 5 votes Clinton 4 votes.

Trump wins the popular vote!

I'm afraid he's going to win, and big.

If so, I hope he mellows out a LOT and governs like the last ex actor we elected.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I was just in Cocoa Beach for a company offsite. Last week.

stayed there as a midshipman for a week...over on the Tampa side now (or, more appropriately, in a couple months)

 

[Denny Crane]

stayed there as a midshipman for a week...over on the Tampa side now (or, more appropriately, in a couple months)

One of these days, I'd love the honor of meeting you in person.

 

[BrianFromWA]

thanks, but I'm really not that cool. Ask Sly and Wookee.

But if you're in Tampa, there's always steak, wine and cocktails.

 

[Denny Crane]

thanks, but I'm really not that cool. Ask Sly and Wookee.

But if you're in Tampa, there's always steak, wine and cocktails.

And home theater!

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

I'd probably write in Bernie or pick a third party candidate. Living in a state that always votes the same way frees you up to vote third party without any negative consequences. "Hey look I voted third party I'm such a rebel!"

 

[BlazerCaravan]

There are certainly some qualities in Trump that I like.

He's a businessman.
He's self funded (owes no favors).
He's a citizen vs. a career politician.
Some of his policies make sense.
I do see him as able to negotiate better for the USA.
He doesn't seem to be a warmonger.

On the issue of lack of policies or talking off the cuff, it ultimately matters if you can picture the guy dealing with the issues thrown his way by general circumstances. For the most part it doesn't seem like he's incapable of making good decisions.

Unfortunately, his hateful rhetoric and plans for hispanics and muslims are completely unacceptable.

Yeah other than his fascistic racial politics and fanatical white supremacist fanbase, he seems like the one Republican candidate who wouldn't roofie your daughter. And that's high praise in 2016.

 

[barfo]

Yeah other than his fascistic racial politics and fanatical white supremacist fanbase, he seems like the one Republican candidate who wouldn't roofie your daughter. And that's high praise in 2016.

Yes, although he might well roofie his own daughter.

barfo

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

It's gonna be awesome hearing all the "if such and such becomes president I'm leaving the USA" chatter...... NOT

The empty threats around election time by dems and repubs is laughable

 

[MARIS61]

I don't understand people that vote for third party nominees. They wont win, so what's the point? Clinton and trump are both asshats, but I'd rather choose the lesser of two evils (in my mind anyway) instead of completely throwing the vote away

You don't think supporting an asshat is throwing your vote away.

You do think supporting someone you like is throwing your vote away.

I don't think you understand how this whole voting thing works.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

You don't think supporting an asshat is throwing your vote away.

You do think supporting someone you like is throwing your vote away.

I don't think you understand how this whole voting thing works.

Oh I do. I learned at a young age to register as an independent because republicans and democrats hate each other and don't actually listen.

But I also learned as an independent I get screwed out of doing anything other than voting in the primary. And seeing asshat third party nominees too.

So, I'll have fun voting for the better of the two main candidates and actually have a say. Instead of voting with a couple hundred people for some other jerkoff nobody will ever remember

 

[PDXFonz]

Id vote to build a rocket to launch Trump into space.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Oh I do. I learned at a young age to register as an independent because republicans and democrats hate each other and don't actually listen.

But I also learned as an independent I get screwed out of doing anything other than voting in the primary. And seeing asshat third party nominees too.

So, I'll have fun voting for the better of the two main candidates and actually have a say. Instead of voting with a couple hundred people for some other jerkoff nobody will ever remember

You have no say. Mondale was the last Democratic nominee who didn't win Oregon, and that's not changing any time soon, regardless of how you, I, or anyone else on this board votes. Your "lesser of two evils" vote is the "throwaway", because not only does it not impact the end result; it also goes to someone with whom you fundamentally disagree. At the very least, I know that my vote went to whom I believe to be the best option to run the country, rather than the slightly less bad.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

You have no say. Mondale was the last Democratic nominee who didn't win Oregon, and that's not changing any time soon, regardless of how you, I, or anyone else on this board votes. Your "lesser of two evils" vote is the "throwaway", because not only does it not impact the end result; it also goes to someone with whom you fundamentally disagree. At the very least, I know that my vote went to whom I believe to be the best option to run the country, rather than the slightly less bad.

I haven't seen one politician that I fundamentally agree with on anything. The closest one I've seen is tom potter who was Portland mayor.

And sure, voting for a repub might be throwing a vote away In Oregon (essentially Multnomah county only) especially if it's a president.

I'll add that even though if I were to "throw away" my vote for a repub, it helps in the popular vote of the USA. And I believe if a president were to lose the popular vote again, but win the election, that would have a much likelier outcome of overhauling the system instead of morally feeling right voting for a guy that ends up with 10,000 votes nationwide

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I haven't seen one politician that I fundamentally agree with on anything. The closest one I've seen is tom potter who was Portland mayor.

And sure, voting for a repub might be throwing a vote away In Oregon (essentially Multnomah county only) especially if it's a president.

I'll add that even though if I were to "throw away" my vote for a repub, it helps in the popular vote of the USA. And I believe if a president were to lose the popular vote again, but win the election, that would have a much likelier outcome of overhauling the system instead of morally feeling right voting for a guy that ends up with 10,000 votes nationwide

 

[Stevenson]

What I don't get, on both sides, is not wanting a "career politician." If I was having surgery, I would want a career doctor, not a businessman. If I was in a lawsuit, I would want a career lawyer, not some novice.

Running a branch government is not a job for amateurs. Even Reagan had two terms as governor of the largest state.

 

[e_blazer]

What I don't get, on both sides, is not wanting a "career politician." If I was having surgery, I would want a career doctor, not a businessman. If I was in a lawsuit, I would want a career lawyer, not some novice.

Running a branch government is not a job for amateurs. Even Reagan had two terms as governor of the largest state.

All I can say is it's the year of stupid.

 

[e_blazer]

Wow. A triple post. I must really mean that.

 

[KingSpeed]

I will vote for Trump even though I can not reasonable expect Oregon to do so. This time just perhaps enough of my fellow citizens will wise up and reject the Democrat.
It has happen a few times in history, it is not impossible. While Trump is not the ideal candidate, the downside is not nearly as atrocious as making the Commander in Chief out of the liar.

Um Trump has lied quite a bit.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I LOVE OLIGARCHYS

 

[blue32]

Um Trump has lied quite a bit.

LOL this makes me laugh. Do you honestly think ANY president, or presidential candidate has not lied?

 

[Denny Crane]

What I don't get, on both sides, is not wanting a "career politician." If I was having surgery, I would want a career doctor, not a businessman. If I was in a lawsuit, I would want a career lawyer, not some novice.

Running a branch government is not a job for amateurs. Even Reagan had two terms as governor of the largest state.

Government for and by the people. Not government for and by the career politicians.

Not that hard to grasp.

What did Obama run?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

What did Obama run?

The country into the ground.

 

[riverman]

The country into the ground.

you should seriously take a look at where the country was when he took his first oath and compare it to now....we are in way better shape than the end of the Cheney dynasty and it's not even close...don't like Obama...fine, but we're better off now than before he took office