If the General were held today, how would you vote?

[MarAzul]

Um Trump has lied quite a bit.

Really!! Well then refresh my memory. And compare some with the fucking whoppers Lady Lier has spun. You know like the ill mannered boogy man that run the video that got the guys killed in Benghazi. I turned over all my emails. I never had any classified email. Trump would be in jail if he had come close to any of the shit that woman does.

Ha! With FBI still on the trail, I imagine we have yet to see her best effort.

 

[MarAzul]

Bill Clinton was an awesome leader.

BS! The guy didn't even know what to do with a cigar! The dipstick was an embarrassment.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

BS! The guy didn't even know what to do with cigar! The dipstick was an embarrassment.

Your conservatisim is showing. He was a good leader. The best we have had in a long time. He got congress to work together.

I don't care that he cheated on his wife. Wrong? Sure. But that doesnt make him a bad leader

 

[PtldPlatypus]

you should seriously take a look at where the country was when he took his first oath and compare it to now....we are in way better shape than the end of the Cheney dynasty and it's not even close...don't like Obama...fine, but we're better off now than before he took office

It was a joke. You didn't notice the rim-shot?

 

[MarAzul]

don't like Obama...fine, but we're better off now than before he took office

Wow! How the hell an American can ignore reality and post this whopper is beyond belief!

I do not have healthcare insurance any longer. My wife has nothing close to the healthcare insurance she had before Obama. She can not even buy it.
I know of nearly a million Americans in the same condition resulting from Obama's fucked up healthcare plan on just two companies. Just Two of the thousands in the US.

The number of people that no longer participate in the work force is the highest it has ever been.

Real wages are lower now than before Obama.

We have Terrorist attack in this country now, on a regular basis, and Obama has no plan but to bring in more potential terrorist.

The Nations debt will be more than twice what it was before Obama. Very close to the point of no recovery. He has no plan to alter the course.

It is wake up time people.

 

[MarAzul]

He got congress to work together.

He did no such thing. A republican congress did their thing and Bill went alone with it. The difference between Bill and Barrack, it Bill signed the bills sent to him, Barrack would prefer to shut the government down with a veto.

I won't go into doing nothing about the USS Cole, bombing Serbia, and a long list of shit.

 

[Denny Crane]

Ben Carson effectively dropped out of the primaries today.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

BS! The guy didn't even know what to do with a cigar! The dipstick was an embarrassment.

He used the cigar just fine, however he did not use a dipstick. That rumor is a conservative conspiracy theory. :MARIS61:

 

[MarAzul]

That rumor is a conservative conspiracy theory

Guilty.
.

 

[MARIS61]

you should seriously take a look at where the country was when he took his first oath and compare it to now....we are in way better shape than the end of the Cheney dynasty and it's not even close...don't like Obama...fine, but we're better off now than before he took office

IN WHAT WAY?

Definitely far less personal liberty, privacy, and general freedom of choice in our daily lives. Instead of 1 war we are fighting 4 or 5, and losing them all. Unconditional surrender to Cuba. Constant illegal support to Mexican drug cartels including selling them over 2,000 assault rifles which have been proven to be used to murder US leos and many Mexican citizens. Rampant rioting in the streets by blacks has been ignored to the tune of tens of billions of dollars in theft and vandalism, with no arrests or prosecutions despite most criminals being videotaped committing the crimes. Constant abuse of debatable "Executive Power" to write into law pretty much everything the majority of Americans voted down through their elected representatives...Shielded Wall Street Execs from prosecution. Stabbed American workers in the back with the TPP. He is basically a mirror image of the Bush/Cheney gang, continuing their evils and their focus on pushing America into the New World Order while adding a general dismissal of accountability for blacks in America.

He has not actually made any positive improvement to America that I can see. Zip.

What he has done, the dictionary calls facism.

But maybe you can point out something I'm missing.

 

[MARIS61]

Ben Carson effectively dropped out of the primaries today.

More votes for Trump.

 

[riverman]

IN WHAT WAY?

Definitely far less personal liberty, privacy, and general freedom of choice in our daily lives. Instead of 1 war we are fighting 4 or 5, and losing them all. Unconditional surrender to Cuba. Constant illegal support to Mexican drug cartels including selling them over 2,000 assault rifles which have been proven to be used to murder US leos and many Mexican citizens. Rampant rioting in the streets by blacks has been ignored to the tune of tens of billions of dollars in theft and vandalism, with no arrests or prosecutions despite most criminals being videotaped committing the crimes. Constant abuse of debatable "Executive Power" to write into law pretty much everything the majority of Americans voted down through their elected representatives...Shielded Wall Street Execs from prosecution. Stabbed American workers in the back with the TPP. He is basically a mirror image of the Bush/Cheney gang, continuing their evils and their focus on pushing America into the New World Order while adding a general dismissal of accountability for blacks in America.

He has not actually made any positive improvement to America that I can see. Zip.

What he has done, the dictionary calls facism.

But maybe you can point out something I'm missing.

There is a long list of things I could point out from the banking industry, auto industry, downsizing of the ground troops in the middle east, having great relations with our allies throughout the globe. My portfolio was devastated under Bush...under Obama it's recovered. We don't have more unemployed than we did under Bush..we have thwarted more attempts at terrorism than anytime in history. We got Bin Laden and Gaddafi and Hussein out of the picture...it's healthcare that seems to bother you most Maris but I have healthcare, so does my wife and son..and it's available to everyone who wants it..maybe not the high end package...I can't afford that, but you can get healthcare tomorrow..I'm not converting a guy like you to my way of assessing political values but I think you're exaggerating the losing wars, surrender to Cuba stuff.....we have embassies in Viet Nam..why the hell not Cuba? About time we dealt with that..I think that's a success story.

 

[Denny Crane]

There is a long list of things I could point out from the banking industry, auto industry, downsizing of the ground troops in the middle east, having great relations with our allies throughout the globe. My portfolio was devastated under Bush...under Obama it's recovered. We don't have more unemployed than we did under Bush..we have thwarted more attempts at terrorism than anytime in history. We got Bin Laden and Gaddafi and Hussein out of the picture...it's healthcare that seems to bother you most Maris but I have healthcare, so does my wife and son..and it's available to everyone who wants it..maybe not the high end package...I can't afford that, but you can get healthcare tomorrow..I'm not converting a guy like you to my way of assessing political values but I think you're exaggerating the losing wars, surrender to Cuba stuff.....we have embassies in Viet Nam..why the hell not Cuba? About time we dealt with that..I think that's a success story.

We have massively more unemployment and underemployment now than under Bush.

 

[riverman]

We have massively more unemployment and underemployment now than under Bush.

We have massively more unemployment and underemployment now than under Bush.

Right now..6.7
When Bush left 7.3

 

[riverman]

Anyway....conservatives are going to prop Bush up and Skew Obama...it's really beating the dead horse at this point..moving on...don't vote for Trump

 

[Denny Crane]

Right now..6.7
When Bush left 7.3

The red line indicates Obama's jobs are fast food or retail type jobs. Quality: NOT!

Looks like ~4M FEWER full time jobs under Obama.

 

[barfo]

IN WHAT WAY?

Instead of 1 war we are fighting 4 or 5, and losing them all.

Too much to respond to here, but please list the 1 war at the end of the Bush administration, and the 4 or 5 now.
I'm really kind of curious.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Ben Carson effectively dropped out of the primaries today.

That happened months ago.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

That happened months ago.

barfo

No, he participated in the debates and primaries up until now.

For better or worse, he was the only african american in the race, either party.

Republicans still have two hispanics in the race.

Democrats have a criminal and an old white man running. When Hillarity is indicted, another old white man is rumored to step in, Biden. I'd call that a weak bench.

 

[speeds]

Carson could still join Trump for an outsider super ticket. He's going to have to roll Christie out of the way though as he is firmly attached to Trump's coattails right now.

 

[MarAzul]

old white

Usually a very save choice. Not this time.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

The GOP is really taking it to Trump tonight. Trying to call him out on a bunch of stuff. They look like petulant children in doing so. Trump is surprisingly taking it well by not having a meltdown yet.

Kasich is the only one that isn't trying to smear Trump.

Come on JF....he didnt respond to one policy question. He's a garbage candidate.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Kasich and Rubio COULD beat her. I think Trump gets slaughtered. I've already bet someone 500$ there is no way he wins. We shall see

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

We can at least both agree on Cruz. He'd lose the worst out of the 4.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We can at least both agree on Cruz. He'd lose the worst out of the 4.

I always liked Frank Burns in MASH, I don't like him running for president.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I hate it when Cruz goes into his "abolish the IRS" schtick. It's basically his go to when he wants some cheers and has nothing else to say on a matter

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I hate it when Cruz goes into his "abolish the IRS" schtick. It's basically his go to when he wants some cheers and has nothing else to say on a matter

I do like the 16% business tax. Cut out all the tax credit BS, just a flat 16%.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I do like the 16% business tax. Cut out all the tax credit BS, just a flat 16%.

I hear that often. But it's never gonna happen. Politicians enjoy using the tax code too much to completely go to a flat tax.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Probably already posted but hilarious

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

I would support a flat tax