If we trade a lottery pick for Jerami Grant we are truly stupid.

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Would you trade a lottery pick for Jerami Grant?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 22.0%

  • No

    Votes: 32 78.0%
  • Total voters
    41
Freshtown

Freshtown

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I keep seeing this on different threads—the idea that if we have 2 lottery picks we should trade one for Jerami grant.

This would be a huge mistake.

Grant is not a star. He is a good role player nearing 30.

And if anything is to be learned from the Olshey era, it’s that you should not trade first round picks, let alone lottery picks or multiple picks, for role players.

If it gets you over the edge to get a star, fine. The Celtics traded the 5th pick (Jeff Green) for a 30 year old Ray Allen. That’s fine. If we can get a current all-star under 32, trade the pick. But you do not trade a top 10 pick for a role player like Jerami Grant.

That is all.
 
Let's be real: management and ownership have been lost for years, relying on Dame to protect them from their own bad decision-making. That makes the team desperate now about Dame, and so the sharks smell blood.

The smart move would be to trade Dame, along with anyone you picked up to win with Dame, get picks if you can, and build around Nurk and Simons. I hope we have the guts to do that, but who knows.

Now, in a situation where your window goes from 2 years ago to 4 years from now, is Grant a good idea? Maybe having a vet around to keep the kids in line is a good idea. Is the 10 pick worth anything in this draft? Our history with picks 9-12 is really bad anyway; we've had our best luck in the 3-7 range (and our worst luck in the 1-2 range lol)
 
the poll doesn't have enough options. A #1 pick is a lottery pick; so is a #14 pick. Pretty significant difference in value between a #1 and a #14 pick

personally, I wouldn't trade a top-10 pick for Grant. An 11-14 pick? That's probably acceptable. If Portland has their own pick and it's top-6 or so, and the Pels pick is 9-10, I'd consider trading the Pels pick for Grant providing they accept Bledsoe rather than the TPE
 
B-Roy said:
I don't agree with it either, but if he's the best talent available for pick 9-10 it's kind of hard to justify not trading at least one of them for some immediate help given our timeline (Dame).
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If he’s the best available for the #9 pick you don’t trade it. The smarter move is to draft someone good, watch Nas improve this year, and package them together for a star on a team that realizes they need to tank 1/3 way through the season.
 
B-Roy said:
I don't agree with it either, but if he's the best talent available for pick 9-10 it's kind of hard to justify not trading at least one of them for some immediate help given our timeline (Dame).
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But is Grant “immediate help”? I don’t think he would help.
 
blazerkor said:
We have no one at the 4 that is close to Grant's level, so of course he would help.
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Better than what we have is a very low bar. Yes, he would help, but there are other options that Personally I would take in a heartbeat before him.

He can't shoot, doesn't rebound, and his defense hasn't been good since Denver.
 
TBpup said:
Better than what we have is a very low bar. Yes, he would help, but there are other options that Personally I would take in a heartbeat before him.

He can't shoot, doesn't rebound, and his defense hasn't been good since Denver.
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Yeah I should have prefaced my response with the fact that I think we should target Siakam, Collins, Randle and anyone else better than Grant before moving on to him but if other options are exhausted, I would trade a pick that lands 10-14 for him because he would significantly improve what we have at that position.
 
it all starts by what trail blazers ownership wants and as the things stand now, they have no intention to trade dame lillard, which can mean two things:

a) they want team to stay competitive (i.e. playoff team), have the arena packed and generate money
b) they want to create a team capable of contending for the chip

if we can draft a player we really like, player we believe will be a big part of this franchise future, we will most likely keep the pick and even if dame lillard gets pissed and asks for a trade cause that young player probably wont be ready to contribute as much as needed from the beginning, we have insurance in anfernee simons, so it wouldnt be a tragedy to lose dame lillard, although its not preferable scenario, but if we cant draft a player we really like, someone we believe will be really good player in the future, then that pick is gone in a trade for sure, so it all comes down to whom we can get in the draft

trail blazers ownership is not stupid, they wont give up on a young, promising player for a couple of years of dame lillard prime, when its highly questionable if this team can contend for the chip even if we get someone like jerami grant and given we hired a rookie coach and someone whos really good in developing young players, that just tells me that theyre focused on the present, but even moreso on the future
 
Freshtown said:
If he’s the best available for the #9 pick you don’t trade it. The smarter move is to draft someone good, watch Nas improve this year, and package them together for a star on a team that realizes they need to tank 1/3 way through the season.
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agree and Bey is the player Id rather have over Grant.
 
Freshtown said:
I keep seeing this on different threads—the idea that if we have 2 lottery picks we should trade one for Jerami grant.

This would be a huge mistake.

Grant is not a star. He is a good role player nearing 30.

And if anything is to be learned from the Olshey era, it’s that you should not trade first round picks, let alone lottery picks or multiple picks, for role players.

If it gets you over the edge to get a star, fine. The Celtics traded the 5th pick (Jeff Green) for a 30 year old Ray Allen. That’s fine. If we can get a current all-star under 32, trade the pick. But you do not trade a top 10 pick for a role player like Jerami Grant.

That is all.
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Who is the star at #9?
 
Tince said:
Who is the star at #9?
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Not saying there is a star available at #9. What I’m saying is you only trade #9 for a star. If you’re trading 9 for a good role player like Grant, then the question is not “is #9 a star?”—it’s “is #9 a good role player that can be cheaper/younger/more upside than grant?”

And the answer to that is no.
 
Freshtown said:
I keep seeing this on different threads—the idea that if we have 2 lottery picks we should trade one for Jerami grant.

This would be a huge mistake.

Grant is not a star. He is a good role player nearing 30.

And if anything is to be learned from the Olshey era, it’s that you should not trade first round picks, let alone lottery picks or multiple picks, for role players.

If it gets you over the edge to get a star, fine. The Celtics traded the 5th pick (Jeff Green) for a 30 year old Ray Allen. That’s fine. If we can get a current all-star under 32, trade the pick. But you do not trade a top 10 pick for a role player like Jerami Grant.

That is all.
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There's no guarantee you get even a bench players with a lottery pick. Jerami Grant has a higher floor (though without the chance that he'll be star or superstar).
 
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Freshtown said:
Not saying there is a star available at #9. What I’m saying is you only trade #9 for a star. If you’re trading 9 for a good role player like Grant, then the question is not “is #9 a star?”—it’s “is #9 a good role player that can be cheaper/younger/more upside than grant?”

And the answer to that is no.
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I take it you are against trying to build a winner around Dame?

I don't love Grant. However, I would be surprised if there are more than 2 players from this draft who are more productive in than Grant will be in the next two seasons. If we feel we're getting a future star with the #9 pick, then Grant shouldn't be on the table. If not, we're talking a future role player vs a current one. I could go either way.
 
I much prefer going after Jalen Smith now at Indy for an MLE level contract, he's really playin well
 
I think Dame wants Grant on the Blazers. So if you want to keep building around Dame, You have to do what makes Dame happy. No matter if the fans approve or not. Kinda like how LeBron wanted Westbrook.
 
BigGameDamian said:
I think Dame wants Grant on the Blazers. So if you want to keep building around Dame, You have to do what makes Dame happy. No matter if the fans approve or not. Kinda like how LeBron wanted Westbrook.
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That's the worry. Dame wanted CJ around for forever. Paul was going to dismiss Terry after the Pelicans series, but Dame wanted to keep him.

Players should not be GMing.
 
I think most people are discounting Jerami Grant's defense. He'd be the best perimeter and 1-on-1 defender on the team.

Watch these highlights and tell me who else on the team could make these plays. Nassir Little perhaps? Don't we need at least one more player like that?

 
blazerfan11 said:
I think most people are discounting Jerami Grant's defense. He'd be the best perimeter and 1-on-1 defender on the team.

Watch these highlights and tell me who else on the team could make these plays. Nassir Little perhaps? Don't we need at least one more player like that?

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Most of those seem to either be transition plays or recoveries after he had been beaten or picked off on the perimeter. Honestly not the greatest indicator of the kind of defense I'm really looking for out of a forward we might acquire with a lottery pick.
 
Grant's defense is beyond solid for a wing. But so was RoCos, before we got him.
 
I'm a Grant fan however, dude suffered a torn ligament to the thumb on his dominant hand and hasn't been shooting very well since he returned. If he's expected to be good going forward health wise he'd be a nice piece to put beside Dame in a win now scenario, but I wouldn't want to be left holding an expensive bag of S.

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