Who would you trade Ant and Jerami for?

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UKRAINEFAN said:
I really wanted to get Siakam a couple years ago when he was slumping a little and having trouble with the coach. I think he is almost untouchable now, 24 points, over 9 rebounds and 7.7 assists a game on fairly efficient shooting. Going to the line almost 8 times a game.
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...except that he seems very injury prone.
 
A Simons/Grant package is tough, since the team would absolutely need a big man coming back for the deal to be viable.

What I would like is a trade built around Simons for Mathurin. Imagine a team with Dame at PG and a rotation of Mathurin, Sharpe, and Hart at the 2&3. Total pipedream as Indy has zero incentive to trade a rookie who is already NBA ready.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Trade Nurk instead of Grant.
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I agree! It’s hard to finding players of Grants caliber that really want to play in smaller markets. Such as Portland. All star or not, Most players of his caliber aren’t burning up to go to a smaller market team and he did choose to come here. That’s got to hold some value to Portland.
 
Here's a suggestion: Ant for Markelle Fultz. It makes sense for US, because we currently have to have people like Reddish or Watford bring the ball up, and even when Ant's healthy, he's not a PG. Plus Fultz is taller and a better defender, so pairs well with Dame in the backcourt. It kind of makes sense for them, too, because they're bringing Jalen Suggs along to be their PG of the future and Ant pairs fine with him, and probably better than Fultz. Now, I know we think we can do better than Fultz, but he's still young, he's from the Pacific NW, and:
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Rastapopoulos said:
Here's a suggestion: Ant for Markelle Fultz. It makes sense for US, because we currently have to have people like Reddish or Watford bring the ball up, and even when Ant's healthy, he's not a PG. Plus Fultz is taller and a better defender, so pairs well with Dame in the backcourt. It kind of makes sense for them, too, because they're bringing Jalen Suggs along to be their PG of the future and Ant pairs fine with him, and probably better than Fultz. Now, I know we think we can do better than Fultz, but he's still young, he's from the Pacific NW, and:
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Who gives a shit if he's from the NW??

Not only that, this is a laughably bad trade for the Blazers.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Here's a suggestion: Ant for Markelle Fultz. It makes sense for US, because we currently have to have people like Reddish or Watford bring the ball up, and even when Ant's healthy, he's not a PG. Plus Fultz is taller and a better defender, so pairs well with Dame in the backcourt. It kind of makes sense for them, too, because they're bringing Jalen Suggs along to be their PG of the future and Ant pairs fine with him, and probably better than Fultz. Now, I know we think we can do better than Fultz, but he's still young, he's from the Pacific NW, and:
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Rather save Anf for a trade for a bigger guy, but this trade would be intriguing.
 
Not sure of a name, but I think a defensive, rebounding minded, long athletic 4 who can stretch the floor if needed.
Like a Bobby Portis type of player? Siakam type?

Dame
Sharpe
Reddish
Siakam
New athletic center

Thybulle
Little
Some bigs and smalls
 
julius said:
Who gives a shit if he's from the NW??

Not only that, this is a laughably bad trade for the Blazers.
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Plus I don't really consider one year of college ball in Seattle as "from the NW".
The dude grew up 3000 miles away.
 
Why would Grant agree to a sign-and-trade unless it’s to a team that’s got a real shot at a title?
 
e_blazer said:
Why would Grant agree to a sign-and-trade unless it’s to a team that’s got a real shot at a title?
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There just aren't very many teams with the cap room to sign him. So if he found a team outside of the handful of teams with enough cap space, that wanted to give him the money he is asking for then a sign and trade would make sense. I don't think it matters because I bet Joe already has a handshake deal with Jerami that won't be the end of the world but also most of us will be unhappy with.
 
blazerkor said:
There just aren't very many teams with the cap room to sign him. So if he found a team outside of the handful of teams with enough cap space, that wanted to give him the money he is asking for then a sign and trade would make sense. I don't think it matters because I bet Joe already has a handshake deal with Jerami that won't be the end of the world but also most of us will be unhappy with.
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True.
Grant was shooting great to start the year which makes his deficiencies a bit easier to tolerate, so hopefully he can shoot more consistently. The weak rebounding could improve I guess, maybe wouldn't be as much of an issue if he is paired with an actual power forward.

What really has bugged me lately is his tendency to force stuff, driving the ball into nothing etc. I'm pretty sure he re-signs here, it's not all bad, good help defender.......hopefully won't be too much of a hindsight albatross contract....
 
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
True.
Grant was shooting great to start the year which makes his deficiencies a bit easier to tolerate, so hopefully he can shoot more consistently. The weak rebounding could improve I guess, maybe wouldn't be as much of an issue if he is paired with an actual power forward.

What really has bugged me lately is his tendency to force stuff, driving the ball into nothing etc. I'm pretty sure he re-signs here, it's not all bad, good help defender.......hopefully won't be too much of a hindsight albatross contract....
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If we are keeping Jerami then we better have two big time rebounders in the front court with him and some off of the bench.
 
Grant is good as a 3rd option on offense. He actually has better handles than I thought before the season. But I agree he gets into trouble when he puts the ball on the floor like most forwards around 6'9". His 3 ball and mid-range jumper are pretty good though. But yeah, he is not worth what I think he wants.
 
blazerkor said:
There just aren't very many teams with the cap room to sign him. So if he found a team outside of the handful of teams with enough cap space, that wanted to give him the money he is asking for then a sign and trade would make sense. I don't think it matters because I bet Joe already has a handshake deal with Jerami that won't be the end of the world but also most of us will be unhappy with.
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You mean like almost every other Blazers trade? ;)
 
Grant is like a rook in chess. If you have a good strategy and approach he's a great piece. If you don't know how to use him, he's not nearly as useful. When the Blazers had more ball movement and could use him as a driving/slashing guy, or as a guy on kickouts after some action elsewhere, or as a wing on the break, he's really solid.

It shouldn't be a surprise that as the Blazers offense has grown more stale due to injury and a total lack of creativity by Chauncey, that Jerami's game has suffered a bit. He's not a guy you want in a boring ISO-ball offense—that's Detroit Jerami!

Bring back Blazers Jerami!
 
I have a feeling the target is towns this summer. Not sure how I feel about that, assuming it’s ant and picks.
 
RR7 said:
By moving Grant, and not having any obvious replacements, the target would almost have to be a PF. Going team by team, and trying to keep it somewhat realistic, I just don't see many options out there. I don't think Towns can play the 4 effectively, so that's not a great fit. The only spot I can see is something around like, Siakim and a lesser piece. But I don't love it.
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If you did this you'd want to limit the number of picks you send out. Grant + Ant straight across for Siakam is okay but I'm not enriching Masai any more than that...
 
Samuel said:
If you did this you'd want to limit the number of picks you send out. Grant + Ant straight across for Siakam is okay but I'm not enriching Masai any more than that...
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They wouldn't want Grant because that's the position that they are overstocked with. I think they would want Ant, Nurk and three or maybe even four first rounders and I think we would have to consider it. Siakam is not "okay" the dude is a legit all nba talent and a guy who works really hard. He facilitates offense too, so that would be great with Dame.
 
Instead of Siakim, let's trade Simons for Lauri Markkanen, who is 7'1", scores well, rebounds, blocks shots, plays defense, plays with energy, and is only paid $16.5M/yr. Lauri would be a great teammate for Dame and a difference maker to make the Blazers a contender.
 
swish3 said:
Instead of Siakim, let's trade Simons for Lauri Markkanen, who is 7'1", scores well, rebounds, blocks shots, plays defense, plays with energy, and is only paid $16.5M/yr. Lauri would be a great teammate for Dame and a difference maker to make the Blazers a contender.
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I'll do you a favor since you keep posting this nonsense and no one cares to respond. For all of the reasons you just listed why in the fuck would the Jazz trade Markkanen? I don't think they would even if we threw some picks at them with Ant.
 
LM is untouchable. Ainge is building around him. Portland will have a hell of a time finding a legit all nba level player. I don't think TOR will unload PS now they have Poetl and are looking ok. FVV should start packing though. Portland will have to take a risk on KAT injury prone or an aging ex all nba type etc. Not getting a young superstar for Ant and Nurk and picks; have to just accept Grant will resign and be Blazerpaid.
 
blazerkor said:
I'll do you a favor since you keep posting this nonsense and no one cares to respond. For all of the reasons you just listed why in the fuck would the Jazz trade Markkanen? I don't think they would even if we threw some picks at them with Ant.
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Pot, meet kettle.
 
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
True.
Grant was shooting great to start the year which makes his deficiencies a bit easier to tolerate, so hopefully he can shoot more consistently. The weak rebounding could improve I guess, maybe wouldn't be as much of an issue if he is paired with an actual power forward.

What really has bugged me lately is his tendency to force stuff, driving the ball into nothing etc. I'm pretty sure he re-signs here, it's not all bad, good help defender.......hopefully won't be too much of a hindsight albatross contract....
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Grant is at the level of a 3rd-4th option/role player, on a good team. One of those players that can carry a torch for a while. But because he's at that level, he can't consistently transcend the level of play of his team. If his team is playing well he's likely play well too. On the other hand, if his team is struggling, he'll likely struggle as well

Blazers have been struggling. Nurk and Ant have been out; Hart was traded. No direction; no identity; no answers from the coaching staff (the biggest concern). Grant has kind of been forced into a 2nd option role....that's not a good fit
 
blazerkor said:
They wouldn't want Grant because that's the position that they are overstocked with. I think they would want Ant, Nurk and three or maybe even four first rounders and I think we would have to consider it. Siakam is not "okay" the dude is a legit all nba talent and a guy who works really hard. He facilitates offense too, so that would be great with Dame.
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He's fine. I don't think adding Siakam would take Portland to the promised land. I think that's what I mean by 'okay'.
 
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