If you could only chose one to keep; Dame or Ant

[wizenheimer]

well, Simons had that 9 game stretch when he averaged 28.7 points on 50% shooting while averaging 7.2 assists and 2.3 turnovers (3.13 assist/turnover ratio). He averaged 1.61 points/shot. It was during that stretch when this thread was made and people were suggesting trading Dame and building around Ant

over the last 8 games Simons has averaged 19.2 points on 41% shooting while averaging 4.9 assists and 3.3 turnovers (1.48 assist/turnover ratio). He's averaged 1.14 points shot

 

[Haakzilla]

 

[SharpesTriumph]

After the Powell Roco trade this has swung far more in favor of keeping Ant.

Losing two starters with zero rotational players coming back puts the Blazers much farther away from being able to contend.

Before you could argue if everyone was healthy the team could've traded a guard for a forward and possibly contended. That is no longer the case.

The Blazers are at the least multiple trades away of brining in quality starting players in to contend. They have two less assets to do it.

I don't see any realistic chance of this team building a contender while Lillard is in his prime. Before it was a very difficult door to open with a tiny crack. Now that door is completely shut.

I don't see why we trade Ant now, it doesn't make sense for a rebuilding team.

My only question is if we trade Dame for what we can get or have him around for many years of mediocrity as Kobe and Dirk did late in their careers.

I know what the Blazers plan to do to start next season. But after another year of losing does that plan change?

 

[Strenuus]

I'll never say to hand the keys of the franchise to someone who has only shown one month of great play. That's just asking for trouble.

If he has a great SEASON next year, then you can argue it.

But a month? No. God no. Fuck no. No man. (Someone will get that reference, I won't say the last part for fear of it not being known where it came from lol)

 

[illmatic99]

he needs a practice or deep dive film session in the worst way after building up all this game video.

making so many bad reads and decisions. 3 to 5 ATO ratio is not acceptable, even given the circumstances.

He hasn't had a good game since Houston.

 

[wizenheimer]

I'll never say to hand the keys of the franchise to someone who has only shown one month of great play. That's just asking for trouble.

If he has a great SEASON next year, then you can argue it.

But a month? No. God no. Fuck no. No man. (Someone will get that reference, I won't say the last part for fear of it not being known where it came from lol)

it wasn't even a month. He had 9 great games, a real hot streak. Since that he's had 9 not-so-great games. The type of low shooting efficiency and bad play-making efficiency that people hate from CJ

19 pts/game on 41% FG's (a poor 1.14 points/shot).....4.8 assists vs 3.4 turnovers. A pretty bad 1.39 assist/turnover ratio for a supposed PG

hot streaks are a bad gauge of a player. A better gauge is where the player lands after the hot streak. Everybody needs to put the brakes on the idea of trading Dame to turn the team over to Ant

 

[Hoopguru]

Besides Ant may just want another destination, he's an East Coast dude, that could very well think its not always about money but also where you want to live.

 

[MickZagger]

After the Powell Roco trade this has swung far more in favor of keeping Ant.

Losing two starters with zero rotational players coming back puts the Blazers much farther away from being able to contend.

Before you could argue if everyone was healthy the team could've traded a guard for a forward and possibly contended. That is no longer the case.

The Blazers are at the least multiple trades away of brining in quality starting players in to contend. They have two less assets to do it.

I don't see any realistic chance of this team building a contender while Lillard is in his prime. Before it was a very difficult door to open with a tiny crack. Now that door is completely shut.

I don't see why we trade Ant now, it doesn't make sense for a rebuilding team.

My only question is if we trade Dame for what we can get or have him around for many years of mediocrity as Kobe and Dirk did late in their careers.

I know what the Blazers plan to do to start next season. But after another year of losing does that plan change?

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Strenuus]

it wasn't even a month. He had 9 great games, a real hot streak. Since that he's had 9 not-so-great games. The type of low shooting efficiency and bad play-making efficiency that people hate from CJ

19 pts/game on 41% FG's (a poor 1.14 points/shot).....4.8 assists vs 3.4 turnovers. A pretty bad 1.39 assist/turnover ratio for a supposed PG

hot streaks are a bad gauge of a player. A better gauge is where the player lands after the hot streak. Everybody needs to put the brakes on the idea of trading Dame to turn the team over to Ant

For. Fucking. Real.

It's ludicrous.

 

[wizenheimer]

I'll add , in Ant's defense I guess, is that unlike CJ, Ant has the type of game where he could significantly increase his FT rate, if he was determined to do so. A .134 FT rate is poor. Dame struggled getting to the line for nearly 20 games. But after he adjusted his current FT rate is .328, not much off his norms. Ant probably can't get that high but he could get to at least .250, especially as he builds some respect from officials