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Minstrel said:
What does hoopsguru have to do with any of this?

As for the rest of your post, I thought we already agreed to disagree.
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umm it was him and i that had similar ideas that you dismissed as nothing more than snark worthy.
 
Orion Bailey said:
umm it was him and i that had similar ideas that you dismissed as nothing more than snark worthy.
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As I said, even my initial response had perfectly cromulent objections to your (apparently incomplete) idea. You were deeply offended by the sarcasm, but sarcasm is pretty common on this forum. You just have to be tough!

(Or just not engage with people you think are "snarky.")
 
Minstrel said:
As I said, even my initial response had perfectly cromulent objections to your (apparently incomplete) idea. You were deeply offended by the sarcasm, but sarcasm is pretty common on this forum. You just have to be tough!

(Or just not engage with people you think are "snarky.")
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Right…

So this is how you maintain your echo chamber. Belittle and condescend anyone here until they show they aren't “tough” and move on.
This post is soo far off its rocker.
What a fucking cultist attitude.

good job being better.

what a fucking joke….

learn to be more respectful.
Just becuase somwthing has been doesnt mean its the best and shouldnt be improved.
Should i just go out and tell all minorities to be tougher?

grow some skin or get lost!


Wtf is that type of arcane type of mindset??

how about know your fucking audience. When you posted your passive aggressive”gotcha idiots” post, you did it in the e middle of hoops and i talking aiming it at what we said in our post, so don't act obtuse like it was some general statement.
You play to e passive aggressive children's game like some others do.
Just because you have a little clique of assholish style posts from people doesn't make your echo chamber behavior correct or acceptable.
Not everyone is the same but you are saying get tough or get out???


When someone told me to be careful that this place is full of basement dwellers. I thought they meant kids in moms basements. Not adults who have no actual social skills to have respectable conversations.

how pathetic is it to post with a child's behavior of snark and passive aggressiveness. Then Tell the recipients who call it out, to be better. Get tougher. And then at the same time be condemning of their conversation ???




You are off your fucking rocker with this bullheaded stance you have instead of just saying, yeah i could have addressed my points in a better way.
Just because it has been one way doesn't mean its a good way. M
Wake up and smell the fucking times a changing cause you just opened up the passive aggressive pandoras box.
So you can blame yourself for how i interact here moving forward. cause i will only be following your passive aggressive advice to be better. be snarkier. Be tougher. Be more passive aggressive..

because you said thats the way to be here….

me tougher than you. You leave and go get tougher. You not tough enough. You no smart. You not think things through. You not worth more than snark…

fucking insane….

But thats what safe space, echo chamber cults are.
I give you credit for trying hard to maintain that atmosphere here…


Insane.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
I'm sorry won't discuss what? I'll discuss that I'm an asshole.

I know. How about a contest...

You list 5 reasons why I'm the worst person you know and the world's biggest asshole and I'll list 5 even better reason!
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My list would require that you have some concept of infinity.
 
barfo said:
What does fair have to do with selfish?

barfo
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A person who cheats is generally a selfish person.

Men have hips naturally built for running and lifting. Women have hips built for successful child birth.

This creates an obvious advantage for males in most sports, and this is one reason of many why there are different divisions. If a person has the natural biological advantage that half of the world's population has they should not be allowed to compete in the division with the half of the world's population which doesn't.

Ignoring that and trying to compete against the biologically disadvantaged class can be nothing other than selfish. It's cheating.

There is a very clear line. Playing up should be commended if the player can compete. Playing down should never be commended or rewarded.
 
ABM said:
Update on Alex: He still wants to be a girl, so the family is rolling with that. They're working now to find him a suitable school that he'd be comfortable in. I've been told they're visiting one in the San Juan's tomorrow.
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My Niece, Lisa, and Alex will be visiting the school today to see if it will be a good fit for him. Appears to be an amazing, empowering school. One of the more important issues throughout all of this is that Alex can get a good education, while being accepted and encouraged. In any case, Lisa wants the very best for him, and his future, irrespective of ultimate gender choices.

https://www.springstreet.org/
 
Phatguysrule said:
A person who cheats is generally a selfish person.

Men have hips naturally built for running and lifting. Women have hips built for successful child birth.

This creates an obvious advantage for males in most sports, and this is one reason of many why there are different divisions. If a person has the natural biological advantage that half of the world's population has they should not be allowed to compete in the division with the half of the world's population which doesn't.

Ignoring that and trying to compete against the biologically disadvantaged class can be nothing other than selfish. It's cheating.

There is a very clear line. Playing up should be commended if the player can compete. Playing down should never be commended or rewarded.
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Ah, now I understand what you meant, thanks.

But while I agree with you, cheating is selfish, I still maintain that winning is selfish, even if not obtained by cheating.

And also that Shaq was clearly playing down, and he should not have been commended or rewarded.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Ah, now I understand what you meant, thanks.

But while I agree with you, cheating is selfish, I still maintain that winning is selfish, even if not obtained by cheating.

And also that Shaq was clearly playing down, and he should not have been commended or rewarded.

barfo
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No wonder you don't believe in capitalism, you commie pinko.

;)
 
barfo said:
Ah, now I understand what you meant, thanks.

But while I agree with you, cheating is selfish, I still maintain that winning is selfish, even if not obtained by cheating.

And also that Shaq was clearly playing down, and he should not have been commended or rewarded.

barfo
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Back in the mid sixties in the bay area ,a friend of mine who stayed in a commune for a couple months, because he was on a, all things common journey told me the most selfish people he'd every been around were the ones in the commune.
You had those that worked hard to share, and those the skated work and expected equal share. Everyone probably knows someone that always bumped off others because were broke, didn't get their check or lost playing poker.
I had a few friends like that and I would give them shit because they conveniently didnt have any pot of their own, beer or fishing gear.
 
ABM said:
Update on Alex: He still wants to be a girl, so the family is rolling with that. They're working now to find him a suitable school that he'd be comfortable in. I've been told they're visiting one in the San Juan's tomorrow.
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ABM said:
My Niece, Lisa, and Alex will be visiting the school today to see if it will be a good fit for him. Appears to be an amazing, empowering school. One of the more important issues throughout all of this is that Alex can get a good education, while being accepted and encouraged. In any case, Lisa wants the very best for him, and his future, irrespective of ultimate gender choices.

https://www.springstreet.org/
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I know it's an adjustment but you might want to start referring to Alex using female pronouns. It's a small thing but would show that she is still an accepted part of your family.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I know it's an adjustment but you might want to start referring to Alex using female pronouns. It's a small thing but would show that she is still an accepted part of your family.
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Alex is still on the fence, as it were, so we'll adjust accordingly, thanks.
 
barfo said:
Ah, now I understand what you meant, thanks.

But while I agree with you, cheating is selfish, I still maintain that winning is selfish, even if not obtained by cheating.

And also that Shaq was clearly playing down, and he should not have been commended or rewarded.

barfo
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Shaq was playing at the highest level possible. And hence should certainly be both commended and rewarded.

Winning is technically selfish, however it's the whole point of competing. It is not detrimental to the sport, so it is encouraged.

Trans competing against women is not the point of competing, and is incredibly detrimental to women's sports (which already have enough trouble making money and generating interest). Hence, trans with male biology should be prohibited from competing against women and encouraged to compete against men.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Shaq was playing at the highest level possible. And hence should certainly be both commended and rewarded.

Winning is technically selfish, however it's the whole point of competing. It is not detrimental to the sport, so it is encouraged.

Trans competing against women is not the point of competing, and is incredibly detrimental to women's sports (which already have enough trouble making money and generating interest). Hence, trans with male biology should be prohibited from competing against women and encouraged to compete against men.
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Well said!
 
Phatguysrule said:
Shaq was playing at the highest level possible. And hence should certainly be both commended and rewarded.

Winning is technically selfish, however it's the whole point of competing. It is not detrimental to the sport, so it is encouraged.

Trans competing against women is not the point of competing, and is incredibly detrimental to women's sports (which already have enough trouble making money and generating interest). Hence, trans with male biology should be prohibited from competing against women and encouraged to compete against men.
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Great answer!

PS: Phatguysrule is a selfish remark in and of itself. ;)

:cheers:
 
Very interesting.....

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/15/opin...deral-protection-required-williams/index.html

I'm a transgender woman in America. I shouldn't have to live in fear

(CNN) Five years ago, my wife, children and I planned an Easter week trip to Charlotte, North Carolina, to visit some of our relatives. What should have been a relatively smooth road trip from New Jersey to North Carolina, however, soon turned into a highly precarious situation.

Just a few weeks before our trip, North Carolina passed House Bill 2, which required everyone in the state to use public restrooms based on the sex assigned to them at birth. What that meant for me -- an American transgender woman -- was that I would have to break this law in order to use the women's restroom at any of the stops we visited in the state.

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Jennifer Williams

As we crossed the border from Virginia, my wife and I both grew uneasy. We still had several hours of interstate driving in North Carolina ahead of us. Knowing that I could be arrested if I used a women's restroom, my wife found a downloadable Google Map called "Safe Bathrooms," which the spouse of a transgender person created so other transgender people could find a safe restroom to use in a supportive, private business.

Thankfully, we found one for me to use in downtown Greensboro at a small independent bookstore. After entering the bookstore, I explained to an employee that I was transgender and would like to use the restroom. The employee graciously showed me where it was.....(CONTINUED)......

EDITOR'S NOTE: Jennifer Williams is a former New Jersey Republican Assembly candidate and was the first openly transgender delegate to the Republican National Convention in 2016. She currently serves as a member of the Conservatives Against Discrimination Leadership Council and as chair of the Trenton Zoning Board of Adjustment in New Jersey. The views expressed in this commentary are her own.

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EL PRESIDENTE said:
YASSSS QUEEN

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This is going to be interesting because allowing trans to compete against women is unfair to biological women, however not allowing them to compete is unfair to trans folks. If we allow this then the eventual outcome will be men's sports and not men's sports, women athletes will be phased out.
 
A long line of cis men declaring themselves experts on what is not fair to women.
Women have great variation in hips.
Some women are so narrow hipped they need C section to give birth.
But facts never stopped men from declaring themselves experts on female biology.
Not giving birth apparently qualifies men, in their minds, to be experts on pregnancy.
Thread is incorrectly titled. It should be "I think trans people are icky".
 
crandc said:
A long line of cis men declaring themselves experts on what is not fair to women.
Women have great variation in hips.
Some women are so narrow hipped they need C section to give birth.
But facts never stopped men from declaring themselves experts on female biology.
Not giving birth apparently qualifies men, in their minds, to be experts on pregnancy.
Thread is incorrectly titled. It should be "I think trans people are icky".
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That'll be the day when a trans woman bears a child.
 
crandc said:
A long line of cis men declaring themselves experts on what is not fair to women.
Women have great variation in hips.
Some women are so narrow hipped they need C section to give birth.
But facts never stopped men from declaring themselves experts on female biology.
Not giving birth apparently qualifies men, in their minds, to be experts on pregnancy.
Thread is incorrectly titled. It should be "I think trans people are icky".
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Ive avoided this thread till now because I honestly dont know what to think on this issue. Do you think this is fair competetion? To me it feels like it is not, but I dont have a horse in this race so Im fine with whatever people decide.
 
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