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calvin natt said:
Ok brace yourselves and mark this down but I agree with Jonnyboy here. I am totally and completely sympathetic and concerned with young kids who are going through SO much and feel like they want to start doing things because they are unsure or even feel sure enough, that they want to start modifying their bodies. Let’s just support them and help in any way we can without altering their bodies before they are old enough to know everything it entails and can firmly grip what they are going to do. And yes it IS a very complex issue.
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Couldn't agree more. Good post.
 
I have a funny story that happened to a friend and a few buddies (including me) back in the 60's.
We used to cruise Broadway on weekend nights and it was fun trying to meet ladies, burn rubber and enjoy the night life.
I was driving and my friend in the back seat wanted out, there were three of us, and for me to pick him up at the same corner in a 1/2 hour. We did and he had a nice looking gal with him and they jump into the car and it didnt take long for him to discover she was trans. We did get a good laugh and she even laughed and was a hoot to be with, so she rode with us a while and had me me drop her off at the Barbary Coast restaurant and bar. He met her walking up broadway and hit it off. I remember had us all fooled and it ended up as a fun experience, she was very nice and super cute, prob in early 20's.
 
calvin natt said:
I am totally and completely sympathetic and concerned with young kids who are going through SO much and feel like they want to start doing things because they are unsure or even feel sure enough, that they want to start modifying their bodies. Let’s just support them and help in any way we can without altering their bodies before they are old enough to know everything it entails and can firmly grip what they are going to do. And yes it IS a very complex issue.
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Ok brace yourselves and mark this down but I agree with calvin natt here. These are KIDS we're talking about here. Period.
 
calvin natt said:
Ok brace yourselves and mark this down but I agree with Jonnyboy here. I am totally and completely sympathetic and concerned with young kids who are going through SO much and feel like they want to start doing things because they are unsure or even feel sure enough, that they want to start modifying their bodies. Let’s just support them and help in any way we can without altering their bodies before they are old enough to know everything it entails and can firmly grip what they are going to do. And yes it IS a very complex issue.
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So I agree with this too.

Maybe someone can help me with this: We have a family friend who decided to raise their daughter as a boy around the age of 7. My nephew (previously my niece) has told me he always knew he was a boy, but man, 7 sure is a young age to allow a kid to make such a monumental decision.

In fact, it was difficult for us to maintain a friendship after that because my wife and I so disagreed with that decision.
 
Stevenson said:
So I agree with this too.

Maybe someone can help me with this: We have a family friend who decided to raise their daughter as a boy around the age of 7. My nephew (previously my niece) has told me he always knew he was a boy, but man, 7 sure is a young age to allow a kid to make such a monumental decision.

In fact, it was difficult for us to maintain a friendship after that because my wife and I so disagreed with that decision.
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It’s so tough. Thing is it is very likely that 7 year is right. But yeah , 7 years old is sooooo young. I just wish we could just treat everyone well so kids didn’t feel like they had to worry either way.
 
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IQUOTE="ABM, post: 5322848, member: 20873"]I invoked Hillary's name completely tongue-in-cheek and related as much in a subsequent post.[/QUOTE]
I didn't read subsequent post.
 
Stevenson said:
So I agree with this too.

Maybe someone can help me with this: We have a family friend who decided to raise their daughter as a boy around the age of 7. My nephew (previously my niece) has told me he always knew he was a boy, but man, 7 sure is a young age to allow a kid to make such a monumental decision.

In fact, it was difficult for us to maintain a friendship after that because my wife and I so disagreed with that decision.
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When you were seven, did you know you were a boy?
 
Not trans related but gender identity.

When I was seven there were concerns I might have some neurological damage. I was constantly walking into walls, falling down stairs, if there was anything on the ground I tripped over it. I had missed measles vaccine by a few weeks and had a severe case of measles, which can cause lasting damage. My parents took me to this asshole who was a leading pediatric neurologist. The first thing Dr. Asshole did was tell me I had to strip to my panties. I threw a big fit, cried, because I was a girl and he and my father were not and I didn't want to strip in front of men. I was years from puberty, had no real knowledge of sex as a thing but knew I was a girl and they were not. Well, grownups can force a seven year old to do damn near anything so eventually I stripped and this asshole made me run, skip, hop in just panties. I was horribly humiliated doing all those things undressed in front of men.

I knew my gender quite well at age seven. I was cis. No one questioned that I knew I was a girl. Why would anyone question a trans child knowing their gender?

BTW, Dr. Asshole proclaimed I was neurologically normal even though I walked into walls etc. but although both my parents wore glasses it never occurred to him to check my eyes. I was constantly scolded for reading with my nose touching the book and for getting up out of my seat to read what the teacher wrote on the board but no one put it together until a new school nurse arrived, brought in all the children for routine eye test and discovered I have 20/200 vision. Nothing wrong with my neurons, I just couldn't fucking see.
 
You're a girl, always have been a girl, and an amazing girl, at that. Kudos.
 
Shaboid said:
That wasn't my post, but I thought it was funny and agree with the sentiment.
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Actually, it was a blank image for me. I was being a bit facetious. ;)
 
Texas has begun investigating parents of transgender teens for child abuse. ACLU and Lambda Legal have filed a lawsuit. Literally wanting to take child away from parents and try to force her to be a cis boy. That IS child abuse.
 
What's your solution?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Solution to a bad law or solution to stupid people thinking seeking medical help for a child that has questions about their gender identity is child abuse?
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The real solution is, embrace your child and overwhelm them with love.
 
ABM said:
The real solution is, embrace your child and overwhelm them with love.
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Really? You rhapsodized over Rick Scott's 11 point platform that denies trans people exist. You have fawned over DeathSantis while Florida and Texas vie with each other to see which state can pass most vicious anti trans laws.
Some love.
 
crandc said:
Really? You rhapsodized over Rick Scott's 11 point platform that denies trans people exist. You have fawned over DeathSantis while Florida and Texas vie with each other to see which state can pass most vicious anti trans laws.
Some love.
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When? Never.

As I've ALWAYS said, it all begins in the home. Family is it in my book, FAMS.
 
You said Rick Scott's program was so great you wanted to post it twice. How many times have you praised DeSantis? You can't sing praises of transphobic haters and then say you don't mean it.
 
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ABM said:
The real solution is, embrace your child and overwhelm them with love.
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Nobody opposes that solution.

But it's tough to embrace your child and overwhelm them with love when that child is removed from your care, is being denied medical care and/or your family is being tormented by government agencies...

Government just needs to get out of it all together.
 
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