OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

[Phatguysrule]

When? Never.

As I've ALWAYS said, it all begins in the home. Family is it in my book, FAMS.

Then your solution is no laws? Handle it it in the home.

I like it.

 

[ABM]

Nobody opposes that solution.

But it's tough to embrace your child and overwhelm them with love when that child is removed from your care, is being denied medical care and/or your family is being tormented by government agencies...

Government just needs to get out of it all together.

Agreed.

 

[ABM]

I'm sorry, unless it's something that is life/health-preserving, I'm pretty much against medical procedures of any kind. My wife is wanting cosmetic surgery. I'm, like, "Please, please, baby! You're absolutely beautiful as you are! Please don't consider this!" Thus far, she's listening.

 

[crandc]

You can make your choice for you. Not for anyone else. Neither you nor Trump nor DeSantis nor the Supremacist Court has that right.

 

[ABM]

Yes, but I can always implore.

 

[crandc]

The first Texas prosecution under the law that calls gender affirming care child abuse was temporarily blocked but judge would not dismiss case or halt the law
Alabama on verge of passing own ban on health care for trans youth. Author of bill admits he has never met or spoken with any transgender person. He knows nothing about it but knows it's bad.

 

[crandc]

Texas state department of health has removed from their web site suicide prevention information for LGBTQ youth. If they would all just kill themselves.

 

[ABM]

The first Texas prosecution under the law that calls gender affirming care child abuse was temporarily blocked but judge would not dismiss case or halt the law
Alabama on verge of passing own ban on health care for trans youth. Author of bill admits he has never met or spoken with any transgender person. He knows nothing about it but knows it's bad.

Abbott is a bit of a loose cannon for me. That said, I'm still concerned for children who may want to make that (trans) change. Where is the line drawn on all of this?

 

[crandc]

Abbott doesn't draw the line and neither do you.

 

[ABM]

So, if you were the parent of, say, a 10-year-old and they came to you and said they wanted a sex change, how would you respond?

 

[crandc]

Sex change is not appropriate term.

 

[ABM]

Either way, how would you handle the situation?

 

[crandc]

Month after month and no attempt to understand. Support anti trans laws in states. It's clear to me you consider trans people freaks for your amusement or hellbound sinners who need to pray themselves cis and straight. And possibly gay, lesbian, bi and gender nonconforming and nonbinary as well.
As I have said, no reason to engage with you.
My response to my hypothetical trans child would be between me and said child. I would not ask your or the Republican Party's opinion.

 

[ABM]

In the hypothetical situation, you may end up not having a say at all. You'd just find out the results at a later point in time. Other than that, you and Sly are simply wrong in your assessments of me. Thanks for playing.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Other than that, you and Sly are simply wrong in your assessments of me.

You post links, I, like many others, read them. We post links in return and you simply refuse to read them. So trying to have a discussion with you is somewhat useless.

Anyway, you'd be very surprised of my assessment of you. The ABM I've met and drank with is a very nice guy who I would drink with again. Like everyone in this world, you're a fascinating yet complicated person.

 

[MARIS61]

You can make your choice for you. Not for anyone else. Neither you nor Trump nor DeSantis nor the Supremacist Court has that right.

You're demonstrating the sole reason for your Socialist government. To constrain, limit, and finally eliminate all individual freedom and uniqueness of human character through the enactment of increasingly oppressive laws selectively enforced against political opponents of Socialism.

 

[ABM]

You post links, I, like many others, read them. We post links in return and you simply refuse to read them. So trying to have a discussion with you is somewhat useless.

Anyway, you'd be very surprised of my assessment of you. The ABM I've met and drank with is a very nice guy who I would drink with again. Like everyone in this world, you're a fascinating yet complicated person.

You show me a post that reflects what @crandc said about me and I'll address it.

 

[crandc]

Hmmm, saying others have no part in my hypothetical transgender child is socialism and taking away freedom. I guess some people have different definitions of freedom than I do.

 

[ABM]

Hmmm, saying others have no part in my hypothetical transgender child is socialism and taking away freedom. I guess some people have different definitions of freedom than I do.

Quote me and I'll address it.

 

[MickZagger]

I’ve never really put much thought into transgender issues. It’s pretty low on my scale of importance.

I do think they should use the bathroom of the sex they were born and play sports in the sex they were born. But it’s not something I really care about enough to even argue or counter point someone over.

 

[crandc]

Genital checks in public restrooms? DNA tests?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You show me a post that reflects what @crandc said about me and I'll address it.

What does that have to do with what you said about me and my response to it?

Fine, I don't really care if you think I'm an asshole. In fact, I'll agree with you.

 

[crandc]

Don't forget, when Pence was governor he pushed through bathroom bill that resulted in national boycott of Indiana. Because the only was to enforce would be genital and DNA checks of everyone entering any public restrooms. Party of small government my ass.
Many San Francisco establishments have all gender single stall or single room restrooms. Never been a problem.
Not a single case on record of trans women attacking little white girls in public restrooms.

 

[Lanny]

You're demonstrating the sole reason for your Socialist government. To constrain, limit, and finally eliminate all individual freedom and uniqueness of human character through the enactment of increasingly oppressive laws selectively enforced against political opponents of Socialism.

I call bullshit.

 

[crandc]

I call bullshit.

Short and to the point.

 

[ABM]

What does that have to do with what you said about me and my response to it?

Fine, I don't really care if you think I'm an asshole. In fact, I'll agree with you.

I simply asked from you and/or crandc for examples of my quotes that would substantiate her remarks here (which you liked, btw) that are rather pointed........and flat-out wrong.

Month after month and no attempt to understand. Support anti trans laws in states. It's clear to me you consider trans people freaks for your amusement or hellbound sinners who need to pray themselves cis and straight. And possibly gay, lesbian, bi and gender nonconforming and nonbinary as well.

 

[Phatguysrule]

You're demonstrating the sole reason for your Socialist government. To constrain, limit, and finally eliminate all individual freedom and uniqueness of human character through the enactment of increasingly oppressive laws selectively enforced against political opponents of Socialism.

LMAO. Oh the irony...

 

[Phatguysrule]

I’ve never really put much thought into transgender issues. It’s pretty low on my scale of importance.

I do think they should use the bathroom of the sex they were born and play sports in the sex they were born. But it’s not something I really care about enough to even argue or counter point someone over.

How about we don't have large rooms we all share to take a shit? Seems like a fairly simple solution to just have individual rooms so people can at least have the option of privacy to do their business...

There should be no gender rule at all regarding restrooms.

Sports I agree, should be allowed to require proof of birth gender.

 

[Hoopguru]

How about we don't have large rooms we all share to take a shit? Seems like a fairly simple solution to just have individual rooms so people can at least have the option of privacy to do their business...

There should be no gender rule at all regarding restrooms.

Sports I agree, should be allowed to require proof of birth gender.

There has to be a mens & womens restroom. They need their privacy and men need theirs. Many places have separate/additional rooms already just need more.

 

[RR7]

There has to be a mens & womens restroom. They need their privacy and men need theirs. Many places have separate/additional rooms already just need more.

I think phat's point is, there is no need to have large rooms with 4 stalls and urinals. Just have individual bathrooms like coffee shops and gas stations and what not have.