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ABM said:
Again, I bundles the remarks, then clarified myself a month ago. Don't be putzy about it.
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You're the one who brought this all up again.

Now you're accusing new people of saying things.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You're the one who brought this all up again.

Now you're accusing new people of saying things.
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I agreed with @MARIS61's post in the banned posters thread, then clarified a few things for his sake. Then, you responded to that. And here we go.
 
ABM said:
I agreed with @MARIS61's post in the banned posters thread, then clarified a few things for his sake. Then, you responded to that. And here we go.
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So according to you the lesbian, Hispanic, and black members of the forum have all insulted you. Really?!? I will say it's a bit odd and disturbing that you are singling out the non-white males of the forum to make yourself look like a victim.

ABM said:
When I recently went at it with a few people in here claiming that I had been call a racist (among other inappropriate labels), it was HCP I particularly had in mind. Others have, too, (dviss and a few more), but, without naming names, it was mainly HCP I was alluding to in that moment.
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SlyPokerDog said:
So according to you the lesbian, Hispanic, and black members of the forum have all insulted you. Really?!? I will say it's a bit odd and disturbing that you are singling out the non-white males of the forum to make yourself look like a victim.
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I'm simply referring to a few from memory who have uttered the words. All this, simply in response to an out-of-the-blue post from @MARIS61. If that's odd and disturbing to you, I can't help ya.
 
ABM said:
I'm simply referring to a few from memory who have uttered the words.
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So you're saying that lots of people have called you a racist but you only remember the ones who aren't white males?!?

Interesting.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So you're saying that lots of people have called you a racist but you only remember the ones who aren't white males?!?

Interesting.
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dviss stands out because he was such an over-the-top, loose cannon. Seemed very angry, as well. He called me out numerous times. HCP and I go back a long way. He's said many mean-spirited things to me over the years. Not simply about race stuff. AGAIN, his name was only brought up in response to a very straight forward post made by @MARIS61. If you feel the need to extrapolate a bunch of crap from that, then, again, can't help ya.
 
ABM said:
dviss stands out because he was such an over-the-top, loose cannon. Seemed very angry, as well. He called me out numerous times. HCP and I go back a long way. He's said many mean-spirited things to me over the years. Not simply about race stuff. AGAIN, his name was only brought up in response to a very straight forward post made by @MARIS61. If you feel the need to extrapolate a bunch of crap from that, then, again, can't help ya.
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Yes, you gotta watch out for the angry blacks.

Looks like we're hitting all the racial tropes today.
 
ABM said:
dviss stands out because he was such an over-the-top, loose cannon. Seemed very angry, as well. He called me out numerous times. HCP and I go back a long way. He's said many mean-spirited things to me over the years. Not simply about race stuff. AGAIN, his name was only brought up in response to a very straight forward post made by @MARIS61. If you feel the need to extrapolate a bunch of crap from that, then, again, can't help ya.
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Dude?
I’m not so over the top and I’m probably not as confrontational but you do have a way about you?
For the record I’m Irish so you can add us to your list.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Dude?
I’m not so over the top and I’m probably not as confrontational but you do have a way about you?
For the record I’m Irish so you can add us to your list.
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dviss had lots of fun stuff to say about me. After all, I voted for Trump.
 
I never found dviss over the top. I thought a lot of what he said made sense.
Apparently the fact that I am an atheist is insulting. Oi vey.
 
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Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinions. Oil of Oi vey.
 
crandc said:
I never found dviss over the top. I thought a lot of what he said made sense.
Apparently the fact that I am an atheist is insulting. Oi vey.
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Dviss was over the top many times, IMO. To the point that he hurt his cause.

Attacked me several times for not being as extreme as he thought I should be.

Mostly nice guy. Understandably emotional, but quite unreasonable.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You read through those posts and they were in reply to @crandc's comment.

Now you're accusing someone else of saying something they didn't.

I'm pretty sure one of the 10 Commandments addresses that.
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Wait, are we not supposed to lie? Shit
 
Phatguysrule said:
Dviss was over the top many times, IMO. To the point that he hurt his cause.

Attacked me several times for not being as extreme as he thought I should be.

Mostly nice guy. Understandably emotional, but quite unreasonable.
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Dviss was preaching. Not enough white people are calling out the racism of other white people. If you don't call it out you are condoning it. He was merely enumerating that.
 
Chris Craig said:
Dviss was preaching. Not enough white people are calling out the racism of other white people. If you don't call it out you are condoning it. He was merely enumerating that.
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I remember a good friend of mine (he's native/african american) telling me that for some people, they think every comment is about them. I.e., if you say "there are some white people who are racist", they will instantly think that person means them.

I will admit in my younger days I would get defensive when I'd hear that kind of statement. But it wasn't until my friend pointed out that if you're conscious of your actions, and are introspective about it (i.e., you're wondering if it's about you), chances are it's not. And if you read a statement "Man, I hate white people who are oblivious to the shit POC go through on a daily basis" and your initial thought is "yeah, they are getting hosed" instead of "well, I'm not a POC and I struggle, so buck up junior", then that comment is not about you".

Kind of like how you can love the US and realize that we have a long way to go before we are all treated equally, etc.
 
Good points, @julius.
Thank God I'm an atheist is a joke I first heard in high school, yet a poster had repeatedly claimed it's an insult directed at him personally.
And look at the responses when I said homophobia and opposition to women's rights are based in male fear. Oh no not me I am not afraid!
 
It's just all your insinuations (pretty much irrespective of the topics at hand) that get a bit boorish. I'm sure you're super nice in real life, though.
 
Chris Craig said:
Dviss was preaching. Not enough white people are calling out the racism of other white people. If you don't call it out you are condoning it. He was merely enumerating that.
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So much better than getting called out for "apparently" singling him out. My bad.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Same dude, one minute apart.

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I watched a lot of Disney + this weekend. I haven't noticed any changes to my sexual orientation, but I will be sure to keep the board up to date on any new feelings I am having.
 
julius said:
I remember a good friend of mine (he's native/african american) telling me that for some people, they think every comment is about them. I.e., if you say "there are some white people who are racist", they will instantly think that person means them.

I will admit in my younger days I would get defensive when I'd hear that kind of statement. But it wasn't until my friend pointed out that if you're conscious of your actions, and are introspective about it (i.e., you're wondering if it's about you), chances are it's not. And if you read a statement "Man, I hate white people who are oblivious to the shit POC go through on a daily basis" and your initial thought is "yeah, they are getting hosed" instead of "well, I'm not a POC and I struggle, so buck up junior", then that comment is not about you".

Kind of like how you can love the US and realize that we have a long way to go before we are all treated equally, etc.
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Yep.

And just like there are there are plenty of homeless folks out there (plenty) who really can't help being homeless, and many ignoramuses simply lump them all together and yell out their car windows, "Get a job you lazy POS!"

For the record, I'm not making a direct comparison between racism and this. Simply responding to your last sentence in a general way.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Dviss was over the top many times, IMO. To the point that he hurt his cause.

Attacked me several times for not being as extreme as he thought I should be.

Mostly nice guy. Understandably emotional, but quite unreasonable.
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Totally agree. Like walking on eggshells with him. Even if you were on his side, one slip up or misconstrued word and he’d be pissed
 
julius said:
I remember a good friend of mine (he's native/african american) telling me that for some people, they think every comment is about them. I.e., if you say "there are some white people who are racist", they will instantly think that person means them.

I will admit in my younger days I would get defensive when I'd hear that kind of statement. But it wasn't until my friend pointed out that if you're conscious of your actions, and are introspective about it (i.e., you're wondering if it's about you), chances are it's not. And if you read a statement "Man, I hate white people who are oblivious to the shit POC go through on a daily basis" and your initial thought is "yeah, they are getting hosed" instead of "well, I'm not a POC and I struggle, so buck up junior", then that comment is not about you".

Kind of like how you can love the US and realize that we have a long way to go before we are all treated equally, etc.
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Don't take it personal. If it's said and someone takes it is personal, they may have some things to look at. Be accepting of it. Be understanding. Be open minded. Be conscious. It's out there. You hear it, call it out.

I have never gone to the thought that Dviss was calling me racist, not once. I just listened to what he was saying. I can't ever truly know what people of color go through, and yes they go through some shit. But, I can put myself in their shoes. I can think about how if a police officer pulled me over, what if I had to be afraid? What if I had to wonder if I was going to be shot just for the color of my skin? Even if can't ever truly understand that feeling I can acknowledge that it exists out there. That POC are going through that. That's just one example.

Introspection is good. It's a chance to ask yourself, what can I do? Am I doing enough? Etc. There is always room to learn and to gain better acuity.

Dviss can be loud. He is always clear and upfront with what he has to say. He's very passionate and for some it can be perhaps overwhelming. That's his voice and how he chooses to use it. I respect that.
 
Chris Craig said:
I have never gone to the thought that Dviss was calling me racist, not once.
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Again, you didn't vote for Trump. That puts one on a whole 'nother level. Trust me on that.
 
People that promote any way of thinking, through intimation should be more introspective and willing to conciliate with respect.
 
Chris Craig said:
Dviss can be loud. He is always clear and upfront with what he has to say. He's very passionate and for some it can be perhaps overwhelming. That's his voice and how he chooses to use it. I respect that.
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I don't know if I'd call it loud as much as I'd say he was just speaking in a tone that lots of people don't like it when a POC speaks that way. People who assume he was being "loud" or "abrasive" are listening defensively. He wasn't speaking any differently than anyone else does, imho. It's just that from some people in our society, people like him are not "allowed" to speak that way, even tho it's perfectly fine when others (white people) do.
 
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