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SlyPokerDog said:
Sorry that I'm just now getting back to you on this. We had our 6yr old grandduaghter's birthday party to set up. Fun age, young enough to still believe in a lot of crazy as shit, but old enough to be very particular.

I have never met or spoken to Crandc outside of this forum, but in reading her posts over the years, I've learned that whether it is man, woman, or dog, she does not need anyone defending her. I would even go so far to say that you suggesting that she does is insulting. (Not saying it's a personal insult.)

Crandc does not need me to defend her, she does just fine on her own.
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Hope your party went well!

Never said she "needed" anyone to defend her. PM me if you'd like.
 
ABM said:
I told him my bad for thinking he had rushed in again. Simple as that. However, there are plenty other discussions in here that have gone down that road. He's a liberal. I get that. He also runs this place. I invited him to PM me if he wanted to discuss further.
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No, I'm as much of a liberal as you are a real conservative. I'm fiscally conservative, which used to be what the standard was for being conservative. But even that term has become tainted and misused.

I grew up in a household with loving parents, my father conservative, my mother liberal. It was and still is a perfect balance for my family. My mother had dreams of college educations for her, my father, and myself, and my father found the way to fiscally make those dreams happen for us. It's okay to listen to dreams and strive for more. But it's also important to listen to what it will take to make those dreams a reality.

Right now, IMO, the conservative side of American has become the party of hate and forced morality. Look at the issues that you are most involved within the forum, forced morality.

Protecting the environment used to be important to conservatives. Conservation.... conservative... I bet these two words are related.

Conservatives used to believe in laws and regulations. Now we're being told that regulations like clean water is a burden to business.

And if believing in these things while rejecting the continued hate on certain groups of people makes me liberal according to your narrow standards then fine, color me liberal.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
No, I'm as much of a liberal as you are a real conservative. I'm fiscally conservative, which used to be what the standard was for being conservative. But even that term has become tainted and misused.

I grew up in a household with loving parents, my father conservative, my mother liberal. It was and still is a perfect balance for my family. My mother had dreams of college educations for her, my father, and myself, and my father found the way to fiscally make those dreams happen for us. It's okay to listen to dreams and strive for more. But it's also important to listen to what it will take to make those dreams a reality.

Right now, IMO, the conservative side of American has become the party of hate and forced morality. Look at the issues that you are most involved within the forum, forced morality.

Protecting the environment used to be important to conservatives. Conservation.... conservative...

Conservatives used to believe in laws and regulations. Now we're being told that regulations like clean water is a burden to business.

And if believing in these things while rejecting the continued hate on certain groups of people makes me liberal according to your narrow standards then fine, color me liberal.
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My mom used to refer to herself as an Eisenhower Republican.

But that party has abandoned people like my mom.

It's now more about Jesus, controlling others and honestly, fear mongering of the "others".
 
julius said:
Don't fall for it @SlyPokerDog , he's trying to groom you!!
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I could use some.

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SlyPokerDog said:
Right now, IMO, the conservative side of American has become the party of hate and forced morality. Look at the issues that you are most involved within the forum, forced morality.
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There's that hate word yet again. I'm a strong conservative, but hate is not part of my vocabulary.

As to forced morality (as you've described it), my beliefs are what they are. If someone wants to attack and debate the issues, fine. I only ask that I'm not the one attacked, as it were. You're a mod, head mod, owner, whatever. It's your job to keep things objective and considerate.
 
crandc said:
When someone says that I not only am not entitled to equal rights, but my mere existence is so evil children will be irreparably harmed if they hear the word, I sure don't call that love.
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(not responding to your post, @crandc using it as a reference).

It's funny when someone blindly supports someone who promotes division, support passive (and not so passive) aggressive ways to criminalize being gay/ gay marriage, says they're "dealing" with a "transgender issue" etc., gets called out for it, they're like "why are people attacking poor widdo innocent me? I support gays/etc!"

Well, here's an interesting thing. I support LGBTQ rights. I support gay rights, gay marriage, etc. I have 3 cousins who are lesbians, and never once have I been so god damn arrogant and oblivious to think that it is ME who is 'dealing with transgender issues'. I love my cousins no matter who they sleep with (in fact, I don't want to know anything about who any of my cousins/relatives sleep with, but that's a different point).

I'm not dealing with an "issue" that one of my cousins (and her wife) had a child a few years ago, and are raising him. The idea that there are people in the country that are so afraid and insecure about themselves that they thought they should do something about gay couples adopting, or getting married, or the thought crossed their minds that they should be concerned about the T and Q part of LGBTQ, is just mind numbing.

Like literally, dealing with the people who think this way is mind numbing. Fuck each and every one of them for being such huge fucking hypocrites (if you dare judge them based on their sexual preference or how they identify, they'd go apoplectic).


Why can't we just live in a world where people are fine with people who are gay, straight, bi, transgender or whatever. And stop making and supporting laws that are anti-lgbtq.

Either we're all equal or we're not. (and spare me the "what about someone who wants to marry children/dogs/murder" crap. Please be an adult about this)
 
julius said:
(not responding to your post, @crandc using it as a reference).

It's funny when someone blindly supports someone who promotes division, support passive (and not so passive) aggressive ways to criminalize being gay/ gay marriage, says they're "dealing" with a "transgender issue" etc., gets called out for it, they're like "why are people attacking poor widdo innocent me? I support gays/etc!"

Well, here's an interesting thing. I support LGBTQ rights. I support gay rights, gay marriage, etc. I have 3 cousins who are lesbians, and never once have I been so god damn arrogant and oblivious to think that it is ME who is 'dealing with transgender issues'. I love my cousins no matter who they sleep with (in fact, I don't want to know anything about who any of my cousins/relatives sleep with, but that's a different point).

I'm not dealing with an "issue" that one of my cousins (and her wife) had a child a few years ago, and are raising him. The idea that there are people in the country that are so afraid and insecure about themselves that they thought they should do something about gay couples adopting, or getting married, or the thought crossed their minds that they should be concerned about the T and Q part of LGBTQ, is just mind numbing.

Like literally, dealing with the people who think this way is mind numbing. Fuck each and every one of them for being such huge fucking hypocrites (if you dare judge them based on their sexual preference or how they identify, they'd go apoplectic).


Why can't we just live in a world where people are fine with people who are gay, straight, bi, transgender or whatever. And stop making and supporting laws that are anti-lgbtq.

Either we're all equal or we're not. (and spare me the "what about someone who wants to marry children/dogs/murder" crap. Please be an adult about this)
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Wow, angry much?
 
ABM said:
There's that hate word yet again. I'm a strong conservative, but hate is not part of my vocabulary.

As to forced morality (as you've described it), my beliefs are what they are. If someone wants to attack and debate the issues, fine. I only ask that I'm not the one attacked, as it were. You're a mod, head mod, owner, whatever. It's your job to keep things objective and considerate.
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Regardless of if hate is in your vocabulary or not, if you support and promote people and policies which promote or defend hate, you are supporting and promoting hate.

Choosing to ignore the word doesn't make that support any less hateful or harmful.
 
julius said:
They see liberals saying something or acting a certain way and don't believe said thing is happening to them. So instead of acting like adults they decided they would start over the top acting how they think liberals are acting to prove their point.

Only in a lot of cases they aren't smart enough to do it right, and will respond with flippant and totally unrelated points. Usually compiled of talking points they send out to each other, in a network of emails titled " how to pwn liberals in 5 simple steps".

Nothing more, nothing less.
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Almost as if on cue....
 
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crandc said:
What is wrong with being angry? I am angry about Ukraine. I am angry about young Black people killed by cops. I am angry about attacks on women's rights. I am angry about hatred directed against my community.
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I wonder if the difference (to them) is that they are A: allowed to get angry (due to being in the majority/in power) and B: they don't get angry, they just pass laws
 
No wonder many people in America won't discuss politics, or who they may support.
 
I assume those Christians who have issues with the LGBTQ people also have issues with people who

Have tattoos
Wear a cotton/poly blend
Have gardens with different seeds
Eat burgers or bacon
Drop grapes and then pick them up
Cut their hair or shave
Blind people who go to church
Women who style their hair
Women who wear jewelry


Or do as it says and love thy neighbor. Show grace and kindness

Basically, stop being ass wipes
 
ABM said:
No wonder many people in America won't discuss politics, or who they may support.
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"I have a hard time talking about how I vote for policies and politicians that take away rights of women, gays and people of color, and for some reason, women, gays and people of color or those who actually support equality don't like it"

weird.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I assume those Christians who have issues with the LGBTQ people also have issues with people who

Have tattoos
Wear a cotton/poly blend
Have gardens with different seeds
Eat burgers or bacon
Drop grapes and then pick them up
Cut their hair or shave
Blind people who go to church
Women who style their hair
Women who wear jewelry


Or do as it says and love thy neighbor. Show grace and kindness

Basically, stop being ass wipes
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I'll freely admit I'm not up to date on the book of myths, but what the hell is that about grapes??
 
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julius said:
I'll freely admit I'm not up to date on the book of myths, but what the hell is that about grapes??
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Leviticus 19:10

And you shall not glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Leviticus 19:10

And you shall not glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.
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Man, he sure is all about announcing who he is, ain't he?
 
julius said:
Man, he sure is all about announcing who he is, ain't he?
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Yes, He is. I am a believer in Christ and like to think I have a relationship with Him. I am also flawed, but I try and love everyone, regardless of their hatred towards some people.

I am not a big fan of judgmental people

Get over yourselves and love people like Christ says

The cherry picking of what in the Bible to observe and not to observe by so called devout Christians is ridiculous
 
Mediocre Man said:
Yes, He is. I am a believer in Christ and like to think I have a relationship with Him. I am also flawed, but I try and love everyone, regardless of their hatred towards some people.

I am not a big fan of judgmental people

Get over yourselves and love people like Christ says

The cherry picking of what in the Bible to observe and not to observe by so called devout Christians is ridiculous
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I'm not religious, but I 100% agree with what you're saying.
 
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