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My best guess, a straight cis man with no knowledge of trans people. Very likely no interest in women's sports.
Seems to be a pretty big fan of women's sports.



Yet at the same time, also seems to be a typical misogynist.


 
Hard to be a misogynist and support women's sports.
 
I disagree. Just like it's not hard for people to be racist and support black athletes.
I think that's a bit different. They see Black people as entertainers. Black male athletes fit stereotype of hyper masculine stud. As long as they shut up and dribble.

Female athletes have strength. They are competitive. Aggressive. Not stereotypical female and not appreciated by misogynistic men.
 
Florida school board suspended member because her 16 year old transgender daughter played on girls volleyball team.

The daughter left school.
 
This is so wrong.


What is the "this"?

For context:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/articles/cw0yvln9z00o

That Italian boxer sounds like a real whiner. And from a bit of research, Anabel Schunke (a German "influencer") "is retweeted by leading AfD politicians and is considered an influencer and journalist of the New Right"
(AfD is that far Right German party that's getting people worried about Nazism in Germany again.)
 
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So that everyone is clear, I have moved--and will continue to move--any posts about transgender Olympic competitors from the Olympics thread on the main page to the Transgender Issues thread in the OT page. Posts and responses thereto on this topic will not be about the Olympics so much as the political and philosophical discussion on transgender athletes in women's sport, and the moderation staff have agreed that it is better to have that polarizing discussion separated from the general commentary about the events transpiring in the current Olympiad.

Thank you for your understanding.
 
That boxer is not transgender. She was born with a condition that makes her have elevated testosterone levels similar to a male's.
And yet a poster here concluded without evidence she is genetically male and should not be allowed to participate in women's sports.
 
And yet a poster here concluded without evidence she is genetically male and should not be allowed to participate in women's sports.

She is not male. She is a female with a disorder that causes her to have xy chromosomes and testosterone levels indicative of a male. She is not transgendered. That isn't allowed in her country.

This is a tough situation for her, the other Olympic boxers, and the organization that decides eligibility. She is listed as female on her passport and birth certificate and they did a thorough examination. So, it's been determined she's a woman and they must let her compete. There is an outcry they are letting a man fight women.

She didn't ask for the disorder that gave her all this strength. She is a woman and she is trying to box as a woman. She is being called a man, is being trashed on social media, and has to deal with the price that will come with winning.

The other women competitors are at a disadvantage. The disorder gives Khelif a big edge. She has the power of a man in a woman's body. These other women are taking hits they haven't taken before in their careers. None of them will probably be able to beat her.

It sucks all around.
 
She is not male. She is a female with a disorder that causes her to have xy chromosomes and testosterone levels indicative of a male. She is not transgendered. That isn't allowed in her country.

This is a tough situation for her, the other Olympic boxers, and the organization that decides eligibility. She is listed as female on her passport and birth certificate and they did a thorough examination. So, it's been determined she's a woman and they must let her compete. There is an outcry they are letting a man fight women.

She didn't ask for the disorder that gave her all this strength. She is a woman and she is trying to box as a woman. She is being called a man, is being trashed on social media, and has to deal with the price that will come with winning.

The other women competitors are at a disadvantage. The disorder gives Khelif a big edge. She has the power of a man in a woman's body. These other women are taking hits they haven't taken before in their careers. None of them will probably be able to beat her.

It sucks all around.

It's not like they're even some unbeatable force.

Their record is 9 wins and 5 losses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif
 
She is not male. She is a female with a disorder that causes her to have xy chromosomes and testosterone levels indicative of a male. She is not transgendered. That isn't allowed in her country.

This is a tough situation for her, the other Olympic boxers, and the organization that decides eligibility. She is listed as female on her passport and birth certificate and they did a thorough examination. So, it's been determined she's a woman and they must let her compete. There is an outcry they are letting a man fight women.

She didn't ask for the disorder that gave her all this strength. She is a woman and she is trying to box as a woman. She is being called a man, is being trashed on social media, and has to deal with the price that will come with winning.

The other women competitors are at a disadvantage. The disorder gives Khelif a big edge. She has the power of a man in a woman's body. These other women are taking hits they haven't taken before in their careers. None of them will probably be able to beat her.

It sucks all around.
It's not a disorder, it's just being "intersexual." Contrary to the MAGA crowd, biological sex is not a simple binary, it's a spectrum. By all of the standards in place prior to the discovery of chromosomes, nobody would question that she is a she. It might be Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (Jamie Leigh Curtis is rumored to be an example of this) but there are plenty of others.

Would the MAGA crown feel happier if women's sports were divided again into "femme" and "butch"? Would that help to protect the sanctity of the thing they have now decided is super-important after ridiculing and fighting against it for decades?
 
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