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Two high school students sued demanding "right" to wear anti trans T shirts. They are upset about a trans student on cross country running team. At a council meeting, bigot adults claimed students could die from competing against trans student (in non contact sport) and self described Christian anti trans activist claimed without evidence children are coming home crying because they are forced to share facilities with "mentally ill boy" pretending to be a girl.

Next up, free speech rights violated because school doesn't permit wearing swastika.
 
Phatguysrule said:
It's all to divide people and demonize certain people as "other".
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Yeah, some people who claim to see through BS, are blind to the bigger picture here.

It's creating a scenario where they ("non biological" women/men) are not one of us. It's no different then when people would have fountains for whites and fountains for "non whites"

So much for this is just done for show. She's not really concerned about non biological women using the women's restrooms, but what she's concerned about is tricking morons into believing it's an actual problem in todays society, while they can rob them blind.

Gender and race don't have to be the same thing to see a pattern of artificial division.
 
Road Ratt said:
Yeah, but all this is, is an entirely different point from the one that I made. Which doesn't change my point.
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It is the point that I believe the post you were responding to was trying to make.

I was pointing out the correlation. You seemed to be implying that there was no correlation.
 
Non biological women so no androids allowed. Because cis and trans are all biological. All carbon based metabolizing organisms.
 
Phatguysrule said:
It is the point that I believe the post you were responding to was trying to make.

I was pointing out the correlation. You seemed to be implying that there was no correlation.
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But can you see through the pack of lies!?
 
Phatguysrule said:
It is the point that I believe the post you were responding to was trying to make.

I was pointing out the correlation. You seemed to be implying that there was no correlation.
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Your blanket argument is about "Their" hatred. If this is about their hatred. Then we could take and replace Racism with anything they hate and equate it to Trans bathroom issue, as well. In fact, if your point is about their hatred. We could take the racism and the trans bathroom issue out of the equation, and just talk about things that they hate. If you can't see that your blanket statement could be used to twist this debate in anyway that fits your belief. Then we are done here my friend.

The two issues are simply not equal.
 
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Road Ratt said:
Your blanket argument is about "Their" hatred. If this is about their hatred. Then we could take and replace Racism with anything they hate and equate it to Trans, as well. In fact, if your point is about their hatred. We could take the racism and the trans out of the equation, and just talk about things that they hate. If you can't see that your blanket statement could be used to twist this debate in anyway that fits your belief . Then we are done here my friend.

The two issues are simply not equal.
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I didn't say anything about hatred.

It is about getting the plebs to target one another rather than focusing on the wealth and rights that are being robbed from us right under our noses.
 
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crandc said:
Two high school students sued demanding "right" to wear anti trans T shirts. They are upset about a trans student on cross country running team. At a council meeting, bigot adults claimed students could die from competing against trans student (in non contact sport) and self described Christian anti trans activist claimed without evidence children are coming home crying because they are forced to share facilities with "mentally ill boy" pretending to be a girl.

Next up, free speech rights violated because school doesn't permit wearing swastika.
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Imagine putting down young girls for not wantng boys in their private spaces. Really fucked up.
If you were born with a dick, you don’t get to be in girls private spaces. It’s not controversial. Biological females should not be subject to a mentally ill man’s unconventional worldview.
 
jonnyboy said:
Imagine putting down young girls for not wantng boys in their private spaces. Really fucked up.
If you were born with a dick, you don’t get to be in girls private spaces. It’s not controversial. Biological females should not be subject to a mentally ill man’s unconventional worldview.
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They are being subjected to exactly that under a Trump presidency. Why is this particular issue any different??
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
They are being subjected to exactly that under a Trump presidency. Why is this particular issue any different??
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beyond the presidency just his creepy habit of hanging out in the dressing rooms of teen beauty pageants should have been a signal. I guess that is something most of the conservatives can just brush off as more manly locker room shit.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
They are being subjected to exactly that under a Trump presidency. Why is this particular issue any different??
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Don’t play dumb. You either support adult men in the bathroom with little girls, or you don’t. Dancing around it with little Trump critcisms that aren’t relevant leads me to think you support the latter. Not good.
 
riverman said:
beyond the presidency just his creepy habit of hanging out in the dressing rooms of teen beauty pageants should have been a signal. I guess that is something most of the conservatives can just brush off as more manly locker room shit.
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But we need to protect women from trans people!
 
riverman said:
beyond the presidency just his creepy habit of hanging out in the dressing rooms of teen beauty pageants should have been a signal. I guess that is something most of the conservatives can just brush off as more manly locker room shit.
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Good observation. I found one person on this forum so far willing to admit that behavior is inappropriate. Wonder when the rest will speak up, or if my comment above this about men in women’s spaces will continue to be uncomfortably looked over.

We all know the answer.

Funny I’ve been the one on this forum attacked for not being on the side of women, considering the sick agenda 90% of the forum pushes (or more accurately is simply just afraid to speak out against).
 
jonnyboy said:
Don’t play dumb. You either support adult men in the bathroom with little girls, or you don’t. Dancing around it with little Trump critcisms that aren’t relevant leads me to think you support the latter. Not good.
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You need to start looking at the bigger picture/entire issue, instead of trying to distill it down to your own personal fears driving your bus. You made the absolutely true statement that, "Biological females should not be subject to a mentally ill man’s unconventional worldview." I simply stated a fact. Because right now, biological females ARE subject to (many) a mentally ill man's (and to many men's who aren't mentally ill) unconventional (at least for females) worldview. Deflect all you want, it doesn't change the reality. My point was very relevant, it just didn't fit the direction you wanted the narrative to go. And you can "suppose" about me all you want. You'd still be wrong. The Right has some sort of serious mental health issue where they want to take every fucking issue and build their own scary, be very afraid story around it out of half truths and outright lies. And if someone disagrees, they're a pedophile, or a traitor or (insert personal favorite insult here). I pointed out a greater truth (and it IS the truth), sans insults and now you accuse me of heinous thoughts and actions. Extrapolate much??? Let me have a go at that:

You supported Trump (extrapolation #1) Therefore;
You hate women (Extrapolation #2)
You hate America (Extrapolation #3)
You hate Democracy (Extrapolation #4)
You hate gays and transgenders (Extrapolation#5)
You are racist (Extrapolation #6)

So how many of the six were true? Probably none (except for maybe #1). Doesn't feel very good (if you even give a shit) to think that people might feel that way about you, does it? Let's keep the commentary civil. When it comes to transgender restroom issues there are several, easy and effective solutions to solve the "problem". They have even been discussed in this forum. Are you even interested in answers? Unfortunately, the Right doesn't want to solve the problem. They want transgenders to just disappear. But then, the Right would just have one less issue to run on.....
 
It's strange to me that all my life camping, fishing, hiking, traveling that when outdoors nobody seems to worry about coed bushes people pee in...if you hold up a coat so your sister can pee in the bushes nobody seems to care or get sued over it. This toilet rage has gotten out of hand I say!!!
Watch out for that Bud Lite can, I think grandpa peed in it!
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
And............................................you just nailed our generation with that comment. Just sayin'.......... :clap:
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When I was in my early 40's I accidentally ended up in a women rest room using the toilet. Didn't realize it tell I heard the sound of hi heels and a gals cough. I immediately lifted my legs up and held them there for a time and the sweat was rolling off my forehead. Finished up waited for silence and made my escape only to run into a couple nice gals that started laughing and I joined in and told them once in a lifetime mistake but their laughing made it worth it. I remember my legs were tired from holding them up.
 
Consistently allowing the calling of trans people mentally ill and deranged and disgusting, pedophiles, rapists and etc. when we have a trans individual in our group at the very least seems like something that should fall under the personal attack blanket. Maybe not, because it is a "general statement", but I feel bad for our friends on here that have to read that about themselves. More than feel bad. It's pretty despicable. And I fear we'll lose out on good forum members who are, while keeping the bigots that disparage them on technicalities.
 
riverman said:
It's strange to me that all my life camping, fishing, hiking, traveling that when outdoors nobody seems to worry about coed bushes people pee in...if you hold up a coat so your sister can pee in the bushes nobody seems to care or get sued over it. This toilet rage has gotten out of hand I say!!!
Watch out for that Bud Lite can, I think grandpa peed in it!
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Ive been buck naked in a mud tent in the 60's with all types of people. To this day its whenI laughed the hardest ever.
 
jonnyboy said:
Don’t play dumb. You either support adult men in the bathroom with little girls, or you don’t. Dancing around it with little Trump critcisms that aren’t relevant leads me to think you support the latter. Not good.
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I took my little girls to the bathroom all the time. That's what responsible parents do.

I don't think there needs to be a law about that. If anything there needs to be a code requiring universal restrooms with private stalls.
 
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Judge dismissed motion to ban San Jose State volleyball team. Judge ruled, aptly, anti trans group said they needed emergency injunction but woman was in her third year. If it's such an emergency why did it take three years to do something?
 
crandc said:
Judge dismissed motion to ban San Jose State volleyball team. Judge ruled, aptly, anti trans group said they needed emergency injunction but woman was in her third year. If it's such an emergency why did it take three years to do something?
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since you dont provide them here is a link,
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nb...ayer-from-championship-tournament/ar-AA1uO5ge

Also earlier you said that the player is was not that good, medium talent level.
She will be named all conference since she is 3rd in kills in the conference, definetly not medium level for this conference.
 
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