I'm So SICK & TIRED of Neil Olshey

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Status-quoers would be the worst business owners, never changing employees...
 
yuyuza1 said:
How exactly is that different from what you're doing in your defense of Terry?
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Good question. I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. However, don't forget, I was fighting fire with fire. In other words I didn't begin the cherry picking.
 
Lanny said:
What about the regular season? Doesn't that count for something when you're trying to denigrate a coach?
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Sure, but the playoffs do have to be weighted way more heavily when you're talking about a team that is trying to take the next step. In spite of Olshey's salesman BS, 49-33 actually means very little next to 0-4.
 
Five Second Violation said:
Sure, but the playoffs do have to be weighted way more heavily when you're talking about a team that is trying to take the next step. In spite of Olshey's salesman BS, 49-33 actually means very little next to 0-4.
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You can't even get in the playoffs without doing something in the regular season. Now, how good is a really good playoff team if it can't make the playoffs?
 
BonesJones said:
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Some on is living in denial and that is not the river in Egypt. It's about making noise in the Playoffs, not just showing up. Participation awards (thankfully) are not given out in the NBA. And if he is talking about the regular season, please point out that your team was 3 games from not being in the Playoffs at all.

I'm very tired of the 'slickness', the 'smarminess' and the 'holier than thou' way he comes across. It's much more suited for LA than Portland where people don't live in a place most of us refer to as reality.
 
Five Second Violation said:
16/30 teams in the NBA make the playoffs every year. Not exactly some huge accomplishment.
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How many won 49 games and did it in the West?

Edit: What's that? The number shrank to two? That makes a total of six out of the entire NBA that won more games than the Blazers. I believe this also continues the trend of our getting better every year.
 
Lanny said:
How many won 49 games and did it in the West?

Edit: What's that? The number shrank to two? That makes a total of six out of the entire NBA that won more games than the Blazers. I believe this also continues the trend of our getting better every year.
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How many didn't win a single postseason game?

That's actually Portland's most unique distinction of all this year.
 
Five Second Violation said:
How many didn't win a single postseason game?

That's actually Portland's most unique distinction of all this year.
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Again, you can't get to the post season without a successful regular season. Now, tell me which one is more important? A chain is only as strong as the previous links.
 
Five Second Violation said:
True, I also heard that you also can't win a championship without winning a postseason game.
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Yep, but a boiling pot will never boil unless you heat it up first.

To get to the top, you've gotta climb up close in the first place. You can be the best at climbing the last few feet of a mountain in the world and it's useless unless you can get up there close in the first place.

Therefor, I contend that a good regular season is more important than a bad regular season and a great ability to win playoff games. Without the first, you haven't even a chance.
 
jlprk said:
Status-quoers would be the worst business owners, never changing employees...
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Every business is different, your statement is a blanketed one.

The Blazers, along with most NBA teams, continue to skyrocket in value. I think even the status-quoers would want a championship but as a business if they are making money by advancing to the playoffs every year and keeping the team intact then you can't say the one in charge is a bad business owner. You could say that type of ownership would never lead to a title but those are two different things.

I own my own business which is a retail store. Retail is an industry that has a ton of turnover. My last hire was almost a year ago and all my other employees have been here for several years which is very rare. I am not accepting status-quo. I have a good, experienced staff that I can rely on. The continuity of having a staff that knows the ins and outs of the store and my expectations is very valuable. I also believe that those employees enjoy working for the store and for me. There is nothing positive that would come from firing them and changing to new employees. I know it's not the same as sports but you were trying to equate them with your ignorant statement.
 
hoopsjock said:
I own my own business which is a retail store. Retail is an industry that has a ton of turnover. My last hire was almost a year ago and all my other employees have been here for several years which is very rare.
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The Blazers are very rare, too, in their lack of trades. Why can't our GM make trades like other GMs do? Why do you think this roster (or coach or GM) is too precious and rare to ever make a major change?
 
Not only did the Blazers get swept, they were down at least 15 points at one point during 3 of the 4 games... and Neil says the season was a success... absolutely pathetic... and that condescending ahole gets angry when fans question roster or GM or coaching... no accountability... unbelievable
 
Gronk Brady said:
Not only did the Blazers get swept, they were down at least 15 points at one point during 3 of the 4 games... and Neil says the season was a success... absolutely pathetic... and that condescending ahole gets angry when fans question roster or GM or coaching... no accountability... unbelievable
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Actions speak louder than words. He’s not gonna come out and say “we fucked up and that was unacceptable and someone has to pay.” There’s literally NO upside in publicly saying that outside of pleasing some emotional fans like yourself.

We’ll see about the actions.
 
People bragging about them getting to the third seed, they were the first third seed to be swept in forty years, and the Pelicans were the lowest seed ever to sweep an upper seed. We don't need any changes though.
 
Strenuus said:
If you don't win in the postseason, the regular season means nothing, no matter how good it was.
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Wrong, it means you got to enjoy quite a few regular season games. It still takes a successful regular season to even sniff the playoffs.Without that it's "What playoffs?"
 
CupWizier said:
Uh, we won 49 games. Take away the 13 games and we still won 36 more games than that 13 game stretch and would translate to a 36-33 record. Several teams had winning streaks during the season, should they not be given credit for those?
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No, good regular seasons only count if you're not the Blazers. How's that for some twisted logic.
 
Lanny said:
Wrong, it means you got to enjoy quite a few regular season games. It still takes a successful regular season to even sniff the playoffs.Without that it's "What playoffs?"
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So you pay $40,000+ every year to enjoy a few regular season game?! Hahahaha... wow, talk about bad investments... $200,000+ over the last 5 years to enjoy a few regular season games and you are happy with Neil... wow! Think of what else $200,000 could buy?!
 
How often we played against Teams missing their best Players or Key Players? I tell you Guys, Next year will be much much more difficult because we will not have that luck again, allmost every Team will be healthy and then we see how for real that 3rd was
 
Gronk Brady said:
So you pay $40,000+ every year to enjoy a few regular season game?! Hahahaha... wow, talk about bad investments... $200,000+ over the last 5 years to enjoy a few regular season games and you are happy with Neil... wow! Think of what else $200,000 could buy?!
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It's significantly more than $40,000 and it's a bad investment for you because you don't have that kind of money and aren't a true fan if you get your kicks out of ragging on the Blazers every time things don't go your way perfectly.

Me? I enjoy basketball and especially the Blazers. Can't wait for next season.
 
Lanny said:
It's significantly more than $40,000 and it's a bad investment for you because you don't have that kind of money and aren't a true fan if you get your kicks out of ragging on the Blazers every time things don't go your way perfectly.

Me? I enjoy basketball and especially the Blazers. Can't wait for next season.
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I’m a die hard fan actually... but I’m not gonna blindly financially support a bad product... I watch every game, but I want accountability before I spend money. And I’m well off financially FYI... maybe I don’t make enough to blow $40k plus on Blazers tickets... but if I did have that kind of disposable income I’d look for charity to donate to instead of lining Paul Allen’s pockets.
 
Gronk Brady said:
I’m a die hard fan actually... but I’m not gonna blindly financially support a bad product... I watch every game, but I want accountability before I spend money. And I’m well off financially FYI... maybe I don’t make enough to blow $40k plus on Blazers tickets... but if I did have that kind of disposable income I’d look for charity to donate to instead of lining Paul Allen’s pockets.
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Well then, act like you are at least an emotional supporter of the Blazers.
 
jlprk said:
The Blazers are very rare, too, in their lack of trades. Why can't our GM make trades like other GMs do? Why do you think this roster (or coach or GM) is too precious and rare to ever make a major change?
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You are trying to make points that simply aren't true. When you ask questions that imply this roster is too precious to ever make a major change and our GM can't make trades like others do there are two statements I can make to refute that.

1) Olshey has made trades for guys like Plumlee, Nurkic, RoLo, Napier, Harkless, and Afflalo.

2) Dame, CJ, and Leonard are the only guys out of 15 that have been here longer than 3 seasons.

I know you don't like CJ but just because Olshey hasn't traded him doesn't mean he doesn't make trades and never makes major changes.
 
santeesioux said:
People bragging about them getting to the third seed, they were the first third seed to be swept in forty years, and the Pelicans were the lowest seed ever to sweep an upper seed. We don't need any changes though.
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My god people, NO ONE is saying that there shouldn't be a single change made and that the same 15 guys, GM, and coach should all come back next year.
 
santeesioux said:
People bragging about them getting to the third seed, they were the first third seed to be swept in forty years, and the Pelicans were the lowest seed ever to sweep an upper seed. We don't need any changes though.
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What was the difference between the third and sixth seed, ONE game?

Context matters.
 
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