I'm sorry Bayless, can you forgive me?

[Eastoff]

I want to come forward and admit, I doubted Bayless. Perhaps there are others that wish to confess their sins.

 

[julius]

Just remember...if you go into one of those booths and there's a hole about 3 feet off the ground...leave.

 

[Buzz Killington]

DO NOT SHOW WEAKNESS TO JBAY4. HE WILL EAT YOU ALIVE.

 

[Pinwheel1]

As I recall from last year, this thread should be a lot longer than it is.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I don't think many people doubted he was a good basketball player - they just questioned whether he was a true PG.

 

[Eastoff]

I don't think many people doubted he was a good basketball player - they just questioned whether he was a true PG.

"But father, it isn't a sin if she says she likes it, is it?"

 

[hasoos]

I don't think many people doubted he was a good basketball player - they just questioned whether he was a true PG.

No, I think many people questioned whether he was a good basketball player. I remember him being labelled as selfish, and one person even said he was the type of player nobody else wanted to play with, if I remember right.

 

[Eastoff]

No, I think many people questioned whether he was a good basketball player. I remember him being labelled as selfish, and one person even said he was the type of player nobody else wanted to play with, if I remember right.

Wo unto thee, for the wise JayBay says "Let the man without sin shoot the first three pointer."

 

[Pinwheel1]

Yeah but I think we debated over and over and over that we didn't need a "true" PG with Roy. That eventually Bayless could be the type of player that would compliment Roy. Many argued that he was nothing more than a short SG that could not shoot and was over rated on D.

 

[B-Roy]

Yeah but I think we debated over and over and over that we didn't need a "true" PG with Roy. That eventually Bayless could be the type of player that would compliment Roy. Many argued that he was nothing more than a short SG that could not shoot and was over rated on D.

It's not like Bayless can't pass. He averaged 4.3 APG/36 last year and 3.5APG/36 this year. He's also turning the ball over less.

 

[Pinwheel1]

It's not like Bayless can't pass. He averaged 4.3 APG/36 last year and 3.5APG/36 this year. He's also turning the ball over less.

Hey I agree with you. I said that last year. I have been his biggest fan. i agreed with many last year that he was not quite ready, but I have always had faith in him. (And I realize he will still have some growing pains this year as well.

 

[Minstrel]

I've been pretty consistent in saying Bayless is a high-level talent and has the talent and skillset to be a great complement to Roy in the backcourt. I still think so.

At this point, as much as I respect Miller's career performance, I'm pretty willing to elevate Bayless to starter minutes and see what he can do. Trade whichever of Miller or Blake brings the highest return and let the other one back up Bayless.

 

[WillG]

If anything it just confirms what an assclown Nate is for stifling his progress by letting him rot on the bench.

 

[Eastoff]

I don't think you guys are understanding the point of this thread. It's suppose to be "I guess I was wrong about bayless" not WOO I WAS ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT HIM CIRCLEJERK! HI5!

 

[B-Roy]

If anything it just confirms what an assclown Nate is for stifling his progress by letting him rot on the bench.

I suppose, but Bayless is a different player this year. He's in control, he makes the right decisions. He knows when to shoot, when to give it up. He's turned down the turnovers.

I thought Bayless deserved more minutes last year, but this year, he's actually earning them with his play, and Nate knows it.

 

[WillG]

I suppose, but Bayless is a different player this year. He's in control, he makes the right decisions. He knows when to shoot, when to give it up. He's turned down the turnovers.

I thought Bayless deserved more minutes last year, but this year, he's actually earning them with his play, and Nate knows it.

Agreed he is a lot more mature with the ball this year.
But, do you not think with a chance to play atleast some extended minutes, last season, we may have seen this Bayless emerge sooner.

Who knows how good he could have been right now, if given the chance?

 

[Nikolokolus]

If anything it just confirms what an assclown Nate is for stifling his progress by letting him rot on the bench.

Perhaps this year. But let's not get carried away, he looked Baaaad in summer league and last year he did not make good decisions with the ball (he always looked rushed and on the edge of control). It may have taken ten games too long this year, but a 1/4 season with as much turmoil and bodies falling all over the place as we've seen, I think Nate's actually done a passable job in a horrendous situation.

I still think Bayless looks more comfortable playing a Vinnie Johnson role than as a starter and he still has a lot of growing to do, so I think you give him 25-30 minutes a night for now and if he keeps making strides you can expand his role.

 

[WillG]

Also; who would've thought that Bayless' attitude, demeanor, competetiveness and hustle where just what the Blazers needed.

This coaching staff is a joke.

(if only LMA had the mentality of Bayless; now that would be something)

 

[B-Roy]

^Yeah. Watching him play off of Roy was beautiful though.

 

[LOTBfan]

they just need one play: when roy is not in the game, and there are 5 seconds left on the shot clock, dish to bayless and let him crash the hoop... a good percentage of the time he will make the shot or draw a foul.

if that's all he does, he will be an asset

 

[hasoos]

Agreed he is a lot more mature with the ball this year.
But, do you not think with a chance to play atleast some extended minutes, last season, we may have seen this Bayless emerge sooner.

Who knows how good he could have been right now, if given the chance?

Last year I figured he would be starting by mid year, but it never manifested. I wanted it to happen because I plainly thought we could never win a championship with Blake or Sergio at point guard. Flat out. Bayless was considered to be on a talent level similar to OJ Mayo in both high school and college. I watched as other guys from that class, that were not as good as him in college, were thriving in the NBA. It was just a matter of time before he got his time on the court and the talent took over.

 

[WillG]

Perhaps this year. But let's not get carried away, he looked Baaaad in summer league and last year he did not make good decisions with the ball (he always looked rushed and on the edge of control). It may have taken ten games too long this year, but a 1/4 season with as much turmoil and bodies falling all over the place as we've seen, I think Nate's actually done a passable job in a horrendous situation.

I still think Bayless looks more comfortable playing a Vinnie Johnson role than as a starter and he still has a lot of growing to do, so I think you give him 25-30 minutes a night for now and if he keeps making strides you can expand his role.

Good point, but, to look long term, you need to develop Bayless alongside the other youngsters.
Bayless will be in his prime during our championship window.
Blake; I don't know where he will be??
So, for me, having Blake (a good backup) start and play in excess of 35 minutes a game to start this year was inexcusable.
The coaching staff are lucky that Bayless is saving their asses now.

To see what Atlanta achieved this year from going through the growing pains of playing youngsters; seems worthwhile in my opinion.

 

[WillG]

Last year I figured he would be starting by mid year, but it never manifested. I wanted it to happen because I plainly thought we could never win a championship with Blake or Sergio at point guard. Flat out. Bayless was considered to be on a talent level similar to OJ Mayo in both high school and college. I watched as other guys from that class, that were not as good as him in college, were thriving in the NBA. It was just a matter of time before he got his time on the court and the talent took over.

Same here. And didn't that make you want to tear out your hair at the ineptitude of the coaching staffs philosophy?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Good point, but, to look long term, you need to develop Bayless alongside the other youngsters.
Bayless will be in his prime during our championship window.
Blake; I don't know where he will be??
So, for me, having Blake (a good backup) start and play in excess of 35 minutes a game to start this year was inexcusable.
The coaching staff are lucky that Bayless is saving their asses now.

To see what Atlanta achieved this year from going through the growing pains of playing youngsters; seems worthwhile in my opinion.

I thought that is what we have been doing for the last three years. Playing youngsters. Because ONE of the teenagers did not get enough minutes his first year and 1/4 the coaching staff is a joke?

OK

 

[hasoos]

Same here. And didn't that make you want to tear out your hair at the ineptitude of the coaching staffs philosophy?

I think Bayless may have been one of the type of players who benefit from being "thrown into the fire.". He is ready for challenges. He will take his lumps, but he is a very confident guy. If they had done this last year I can assure you we would not have won as many games during the season, but would have been a better team by end of year.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think Bayless may have been one of the type of players who benefit from being "thrown into the fire.". He is ready for challenges. He will take his lumps, but he is a very confident guy. If they had done this last year I can assure you we would not have won as many games during the season, but would have been a better team by end of year.

Last year it would have been at Rudy's expense. Blake played well LAST year.

 

[WillG]

I thought that is what we have been doing for the last three years. Playing youngsters. Because ONE of the teenagers did not get enough minutes his first year and 1/4 the coaching staff is a joke?

OK

Yes they're a young core, but why hamper the development of what is probably going to be one of your key backcourt players, instead choosing to play Steve Blake?

Otherwise why draft someone in the lottery if they're just going to sit on the end of the bench behind someone like Steve Blake. (and yes I thought this last year even though Blake did have an ok season)
Oden was recuperating, we did win 54 ,but really had no real chance at the title; It wouldv'e been the perfect time to let the youngsters learn through playing time and experience on the court together.
An investment for a few seasons down the road.

The coaching is a joke for a multitude of reasons. This is just one.