I'm Voting For Chris Dudley

[MARIS61]

Actually, we know he can do the job. He did it for 8 years already.

Why not take a chance on Duds? Because the outcome is likely to be worse rather than better.

If a guard misses a free throw or two, why not take a chance on Dudley shooting the next few technical free throws?

barfo

CHECKMATE! (Where the hell is Kingspeed when you need him?)

 

[ucatchtrout]

...with a degree in Political Science, I believe.

So? Is that supposed to impress me? Gee willickers....a candidate for governor with a college degree! Wowsers.

He has no experience that relates to the job he is running for, and he has no experience in politics. He is dramatically unqualified for this job. Of course so was Arnold, the guvernator of California. And what a bang up job he did.

 

[MickZagger]

Which doesn't really qualify him for the job, as our former president proved Ivy League educations doesn't mean you necessarily have Ivy League ideas.

It doesn't hurt.

 

[julius]

It doesn't hurt.

It also doesn't mean anything. What "Ivy League" education did Bud Clark have?

Or Tom McCall? He was arguably, Oregon's best politician and along with Hatfield, the kind of Republicans Oregon could stand behind...instead of shit they pass off as R's today.

 

[MARIS61]

And he's a liar, as pointed out by Roey Thorpe, from Planned Parenthood, who wrote September 1st in the Oregonian:

In June, Dudley sent a letter to Planned Parenthood Political Action Committee that is very revealing. While he declined to fill out our endorsement questionnaire, Dudley makes his views on abortion clear -- a position that is alarmingly out of sync with the majority of Oregonians. In his letter to Planned Parenthood, Dudley indicates that he is in favor of rolling back abortion access and supports restrictions to choice that Oregon voters have rejected on the ballot time and time again. And he also favors abstinence-only education -- a failed concept that has been proven to be unsuccessful and is only supported by 12% of all Oregonians. This would mean a significant rollback of current state law that already includes abstinence education as part of a comprehensive, age-appropriate program that helps keep our teens safe from STDs and unwanted pregnancy. ...

Dudley has indicated he supports the principles of Roe v. Wade, but that's not all it takes to be a pro-choice candidate. Being a pro-choice candidate means making your positions clear along with a commitment to back up your actions by standing up for Oregon women when they need it the most. ...

Not only is [John] Kitzhaber the only pro-choice candidate in the race, but he has a proven track record as a leader in women's health care and prevention....

Unfortunately, we conclude that Oregonians cannot trust Chris Dudley to stand up for Oregon's long-standing history of protecting personal freedom.


Whoa, look! More lies!

http://bujeeboo.blogspot.com/2010/07/want-evidence-of-lies.html

 

[MickZagger]

It also doesn't mean anything. What "Ivy League" education did Bud Clark have?

Or Tom McCall? He was arguably, Oregon's best politician and along with Hatfield, the kind of Republicans Oregon could stand behind...instead of shit they pass off as R's today.

Politics are a whole different ball game these days, when Oregon has like one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation and the shittiest schools. Its just like Obama, I'd like to see some of these past Presidents/Governors thrown in the fire and see how they do. Someone's gotta have the balls to do the job. I'm a fairly left leaning Democrat, but I'd rather see what Dudley can do, instead of the same ol'

 

[ABM]

I'm a fairly left leaning Democrat, but I'd rather see what Dudley can do, rather than the same ol'

That's the spirit!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Politics are a whole different ball game these days, when Oregon has like one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation and the shittiest schools. Its just like Obama, I'd like to see some of these past Presidents/Governors thrown in the fire and see how they do. Someone's gotta have the balls to do the job. I'm a fairly left leaning Democrat, but I'd rather see what Dudley can do, instead of the same ol'

It's amazing the power that Goldsmidt still has in this state. Kitz and our current gov are products of his still very active political machine. While Duds isn't my first choice he is a breath of fresh air and has no ties to Goldsmidt or to the retards that have been ruining Oregon's republican party. When you really look into how f'cked up both the Pubs and Dems are here in Oregon Dudley looks better and better.

 

[MickZagger]

It's amazing the power that Goldsmidt still has in this state. Kitz and our current gov are products of his still very active political machine. While Duds isn't my first choice he is a breath of fresh air and has no ties to Goldsmidt or to the retards that have been ruining Oregon's republican party. When you really look into how f'cked up both the Pubs and Dems are here in Oregon Dudley looks better and better.

Ahhhh good ol' Neil.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Ahhhh good ol' Neil.

The woman who just took over Kitz's campaign used to be Neil's chief of staff when he was gov. That's what finally made me decide to go with the tall guy.

 

[MARIS61]

Politics are a whole different ball game these days, when Oregon has like one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation and the shittiest schools. Its just like Obama, I'd like to see some of these past Presidents/Governors thrown in the fire and see how they do. Someone's gotta have the balls to do the job. I'm a fairly left leaning Democrat, but I'd rather see what Dudley can do, instead of the same ol'

Hey, that's nothing new. That's how Hitler came into power.

Maybe that's where Duds got the idea he could win simply off the failure of others, too.

When you vote for someone on the assumption that they couldn't be worse than the last guy, they invariably are.

Much worse.

 

[barfo]

The woman who just took over Kitz's campaign used to be Neil's chief of staff when he was gov. That's what finally made me decide to go with the tall guy.

I don't get the connection. Do you think Kitz's campaign manager was somehow involved in Neil sleeping with a 14 year old in the 1970s?
Don't you think it's possible that she didn't condone or even know about his prior sexual behavior?
Is everyone who works for someone else tainted with whatever crimes the boss may commit?
Is guilt by association really a good way to pick a governor?

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I don't get the connection. Do you think Kitz's campaign manager was somehow involved in Neil sleeping with a 14 year old in the 1970s?
Don't you think it's possible that she didn't condone or even know about his prior sexual behavior?
Is everyone who works for someone else tainted with whatever crimes the boss may commit?
Is guilt by association really a good way to pick a governor?

barfo

I don't really know you Barfo but I respect the hell out of you. You're pretty sharp and very knowledgeable so this will be interesting to get your perspective. You from around Portland? Oregon? If you are do you remember Phil Stanford when he was with the Oregonian and the Michael Franke murder?

 

[barfo]

I don't really know you Barfo but I respect the hell out of you.

Hey, thanks, and same back at ya....

You're pretty sharp and very knowledgeable so this will be interesting to get your perspective. You from around Portland? Oregon?

Lived in Oregon all of my life, except for 10 years in the middle. Been back in Portland for 15 years now.

If you are do you remember Phil Stanford when he was with the Oregonian and the Michael Franke murder?

I remember Phil Sanford, and remembered the name Michael Franke, but had to remind my self via the Google who he was.

I'm not going to discount the possibility that whatever happened to Franke was ordered from on high, but it seems there's no proof of that?

I'm not much on conspiracy theories in general. Since Franke had some power we do have to consider the possibility that he was killed because of that, but we also have to consider that he may have been sleeping with someone's wife, or he didn't pay a debt, or he just generally pissed someone off enough to kill him.

I don't see enough evidence here to conclude one way or another, much less to assign guilt for the murder to Kitzhaber because his campaign manager once worked for someone who possibly might have ordered Franke's death.

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

The only voting I'll be doing for Dudley will be on the All-Star ballot in the "write-in" section. Oh wait.... this isn't 1995.

 

[Tortimer]

I'm voting Dudley we already had 8 years of failed Kitzhaber and 8 years of the current Governor. You are right this state needs a change.

 

[ABM]

BTW, I'd vote for a sales tax just to fix the friggin' roads around this city!!!

 

[Shooter]

Chris Dudley.... no experience, and no platform other than vague republican party jivetalk. Yet you want him to be the states CEO for the next four years?

Why not? If we can elect a president who was a "community" organizer with no experience managing anything, I don't see why we can't elect Dudley to run Oregon.

 

[Shooter]

Dudley makes his views on abortion clear -- a position that is alarmingly out of sync with the majority of Oregonians. In his letter to Planned Parenthood, Dudley indicates that he is in favor of rolling back abortion access and supports restrictions to choice that Oregon voters have rejected on the ballot time and time again. And he also favors abstinence-only education . . .

I've heard liberals say that abortion should be legal but "rare." Isn't that exactly what Dudley seems to want to accomplish? As for "abstinence-only," it makes a hell of a lot of sense. In fact, it's the most sensible solution to teen pregnancy I can think of. Condoms, as we all know, don't always work, and kids aren't always going to use them anyway. The only surefire way to keep from getting pregnant is to not have sex. I realize this kind of logical thinking doesn't make sense to liberals, but that's their problem.

 

[HailBlazers]

I'm voting Dudley we already had 8 years of failed Kitzhaber and 8 years of the current Governor. You are right this state needs a change.

I hate the Word change but we definitely need a fresh approach and bold leadership. Dudley it is

 

[santeesioux]

Man, you know your governor candidates are shit when people would even think about voting Kitzhaber back in.

I'll be voting for Dudley though as he doesn't seem as retarded as the other Republicans in this state and would be something new.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Hey, thanks, and same back at ya....



Lived in Oregon all of my life, except for 10 years in the middle. Been back in Portland for 15 years now.



I remember Phil Sanford, and remembered the name Michael Franke, but had to remind my self via the Google who he was.

I'm not going to discount the possibility that whatever happened to Franke was ordered from on high, but it seems there's no proof of that?

I'm not much on conspiracy theories in general. Since Franke had some power we do have to consider the possibility that he was killed because of that, but we also have to consider that he may have been sleeping with someone's wife, or he didn't pay a debt, or he just generally pissed someone off enough to kill him.

I don't see enough evidence here to conclude one way or another, much less to assign guilt for the murder to Kitzhaber because his campaign manager once worked for someone who possibly might have ordered Franke's death.

barfo

I don't think Goldsmidt ordered the hit but because of the skeletons in his closet I think he was compromised and prevented from calling for a proper investigation. My problem with our current state leaders having any connection to this is no one spoke out.

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=30037

 

[barfo]

I don't think Goldsmidt ordered the hit but because of the skeletons in his closet I think he was compromised and prevented from calling for a proper investigation. My problem with our current state leaders having any connection to this is no one spoke out.

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=30037

What you suggest is plausible - that Goldschmidt was afraid to follow up because of his own problems. But that doesn't automatically taint everyone else. Since there are so many mysteries remaining, it seems logical to conclude that most people in Salem didn't/don't know the truth about what happened and weren't in any position to reveal said truth.

It's a bit like voting against Republicans because of Nixon, isn't it?

barfo

 

[blazerboy30]

The private sector being located in China doesn't phase you?

We should do everything we can to not advance our economy or technology and try to keep all manual and trivial labor here in the USA! I sure am glad we didn't advance farming techniques so that people didn't lose jobs and everybody needed to run their own farm in order to eat.

 

[Paxil]

No way I trust anyone who buys a house out of state to avoid paying Oregon taxes. Typical slimeball.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

No way I trust anyone who buys a house out of state to avoid paying Oregon taxes. Typical slimeball.

Damn right. People who make intelligent, legal financial decisions have no business running the state of Oregon!

 

[barfo]

Damn right. People who make intelligent, legal financial decisions have no business running the state of Oregon!

Well, actually there's some evidence that what he did wasn't legal, in that some say he kept living in Oregon but claimed WA residency.

barfo

 

[HailBlazers]

Personally I'm glad he has experience on this issue ^^^, we are in a serious competition with Washington State Right now and we need to get our shit together

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Well, actually there's some evidence that what he did wasn't legal, in that some say he kept living in Oregon but claimed WA residency.

barfo

The "evidence" to that effect that I've seen publicized is consistent with someone who maintains two residences but lives at one (north of the river) the majority of the time. As long as his primary residence was in Washington, there was nothing wrong with him having clothes in the closets, food in the fridge, and a practice hoop at the Oregon house, thereby facilitating periodic usage. In fact, I'd say it makes perfect sense.

 

[Eastoff]

I'm voting for Dudley. We know Kitzhaber can't do the job. Why not take a chance?

that's the same logic suicide victims use. "I'm not happy in this life, maybe there's another one."