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julius said:
They do seem to have a weird way of rationalizing stuff.

Look, we all have sex, I'm willing to bet most of us have had sex outside of marriage...but I'm more willing to bet that most of us haven't conspired with a foreign government to target a political enemy.
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I do sometimes order pizza with Italian sausage on it and it irritates my wife. Does that count?
 
ABM said:
At this point, Trump has not been impeached, and what happened (or not) with Biden and/or his son is still under investigation, as well. Pardon for bringing Clinton into the discussion, but he actually has been through the process and probably got off easy....although, he was disbarred, but that's a different story.

Anyway, sure, the Bidens may skate, and if it really is proven that Trump's call was strictly politically motivated to eliminate ol' Joe as a 2020 political rival, then, yeah, I'm OK with Pence as Prez. Still yet to be proven, though.
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Nothing to investigate on the part of Biden. The chief prosecutor of Ukraine has absolved him of anything criminal. Now, if you've heard anything different, other than Trump's scared hot air, I'd like to know about it.
Clinton's disbarment is a totally different matter and doesn't belong in here. We are supposed to be talking about Trump and his impeachment inquiry. There is latitude in here but it ought to stop short of chaos and it's diversion.
 
ABM said:
At this point, Trump has not been impeached, and what happened (or not) with Biden and/or his son is still under investigation, as well. Pardon for bringing Clinton into the discussion, but he actually has been through the process and probably got off easy....although, he was disbarred, but that's a different story.

Anyway, sure, the Bidens may skate, and if it really is proven that Trump's call was strictly politically motivated to eliminate ol' Joe as a 2020 political rival, then, yeah, I'm OK with Pence as Prez. Still yet to be proven, though.
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So you have no idea what Biden (both of them) have allegedly done.
 
barfo said:
The problem that you have now is that Pence is in it up to his eyeballs as well. And I imagine you are not ok with Pelosi as Prez?

I'm thinking it might end this way: a negotiated solution with McConnell, wherein Pence resigns, Trump appoints someone acceptable to McConnell as VP, then the Senate votes to remove Trump if he doesn't resign. And probably the new President pardons everyone in sight.

barfo
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I’ll bet you $100 it doesn’t end that way.
 
e_blazer said:
I do sometimes order pizza with Italian sausage on it and it irritates my wife. Does that count?
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maybe she already had some Italian sausage "at the office"?

barfo
 
I predict the Democrats will win the 2020 presidential election. Then the economy will tank and the Dems will spend the next 4-8 years blaming it on Trump and they will say they need the time to undo all the harm Trump did.
 
barfo said:
The problem that you have now is that Pence is in it up to his eyeballs as well. And I imagine you are not ok with Pelosi as Prez?

I'm thinking it might end this way: a negotiated solution with McConnell, wherein Pence resigns, Trump appoints someone acceptable to McConnell as VP, then the Senate votes to remove Trump if he doesn't resign. And probably the new President pardons everyone in sight.

barfo
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The whole thing is out of whack. For that matter, I'm still not over Christopher Steele, and his involvement/interference in our political process. I highly doubt you're correct with your hypothesis, but, despite ALL this partisanship, I'll still be OK with the outcome as I believe in the system overall.
 
ABM said:
The whole thing is out of whack. For that matter, I'm still not over Christopher Steele
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Dude. He's just not that into you.

, and his involvement/interference in our political process. I highly doubt you're correct with your hypothesis, but, despite ALL this partisanship, I'll still be OK with the outcome as I believe in the system overall.
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So you think Trump is wrong, in other words.

barfo
 
tlongII said:
I predict the Democrats will win the 2020 presidential election. Then the economy will tank and the Dems will spend the next 4-8 years blaming it on Trump and they will say they need the time to undo all the harm Trump did.
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Sounds plausible. Might tank before the election, might tank after.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Yes, that's true, but will his ego prevent him from accepting that they'd actually fire him?

barfo
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It'd feed his new reality show for another 10 years....Hannity will be his sidekick...Ted Nugent will be the house band leader....
 
barfo said:
The problem that you have now is that Pence is in it up to his eyeballs as well. And I imagine you are not ok with Pelosi as Prez?

I'm thinking it might end this way: a negotiated solution with McConnell, wherein Pence resigns, Trump appoints someone acceptable to McConnell as VP, then the Senate votes to remove Trump if he doesn't resign. And probably the new President pardons everyone in sight.

barfo
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Pence isn't in any compromise here. That said I like your idea. But it will never happen unless this makes it to the Senate and Trump has no support. There are many Senators who could fairly easily defeat Bidem or EW in an open election.
 
Thatbpguy said:
Pence isn't in any compromise here. That said I like your idea. But it will never happen unless this makes it to the Senate and Trump has no support. There are many Senators who could fairly easily defeat Bidem or EW in an open election.
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Welcome, stranger. ;)
 
Thatbpguy said:
Pence isn't in any compromise here. That said I like your idea. But it will never happen unless this makes it to the Senate and Trump has no support. There are many Senators who could fairly easily defeat Bidem or EW in an open election.
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The Republicans could win if they talk Trump into quitting with a free pass from the courts if he would and running a strong candidate...they don't seem organized enough to do it though.
 
Thatbpguy said:
Pence isn't in any compromise here. That said I like your idea. But it will never happen unless this makes it to the Senate and Trump has no support. There are many Senators who could fairly easily defeat Bidem or EW in an open election.
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Denny? Is that you?
 
riverman said:
The Republicans could win if they talk Trump into quitting with a free pass from the courts if he would and running a strong candidate...they don't seem organized enough to do it though.
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I think the party is, but Trump just won't do it.
 
Thatbpguy said:
Keep my identity secret, please. :breakdance:
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I would never let these scoundrels know that you are the sweet, kind homeless gentleman I met in Portland and gave internet access to.


Ooops!
 
Thatbpguy said:
Pence isn't in any compromise here. That said I like your idea. But it will never happen unless this makes it to the Senate and Trump has no support. There are many Senators who could fairly easily defeat Bidem or EW in an open election.
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riverman said:
Denny? Is that you?
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Can't be Denny, he said he liked my idea.

barfo
 
tlongII said:
I’ll bet you $100 it doesn’t end that way.
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There are so many likely scenarios and none of them wind up good for Trump.
I'll bet you that $100 that Trump is the third President to be impeached.
 
riverman said:
The Republicans could win if they talk Trump into quitting with a free pass from the courts if he would and running a strong candidate...they don't seem organized enough to do it though.
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Even still, the Republicans are likely toast in that election and the one to follow.
 
Lanny said:
Even still, the Republicans are likely toast in that election and the one to follow.
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I agree...and far beyond that I'd predict. It's why I said they're just not organized enough to fix their collective problem.
 
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