In an infinite Universe: Everything is possible

[magnifier661]

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At the 1:30:00 mark, Ian Xel quotes

Hubble said "In the infinite universe, everything is possible". There is nothing that cannot happen.

I like that statement. It applies to the creationists and athiest thinking. To the athiest; they can use this statement because anything is probable because the universe is infinite. To the creationist, they can say that God is infinite, therefor the magic others claim on creation is possible.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Go Blazers?

 

[magnifier661]

Shit can you move this Sly?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Shit can you move this Sly?

Anything for you!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

To see the world in a grain of sand, and to see heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hands, and eternity in an hour.

William Blake

 

[magnifier661]

To see the world in a grain of sand, and to see heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hands, and eternity in an hour.

William Blake

That's deep!!!!!

 

[crowTrobot]

I like that statement.

i don't like the way you are taking it out of context. infinite time or infinite trials do not magically make the impossible possible. all you can infer is given infinite time/trials whatever is possible will occur.

To the athiest; they can use this statement because anything is probable because the universe is infinite.

not true either. in an infinite universe viewed as a whole there is no such thing as probability. whatever is possible will happen infinite times. whatever is impossible will happen zero times. probability is only meaningful if you look at finite sections/durations of the universe or relational frequencies between different (not impossible) events.

To the creationist, they can say that God is infinite, therefor the magic others claim on creation is possible.

this is a gobbledygooky misuse of the above concept.

the creationist can say god exists. obviously if god exists he is infinite by definition, and creation is possible by definition and nothing more needs to be said.

 

[BlazerWookee]

To see the world in a grain of sand, and to see heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hands, and eternity in an hour.

William Blake

"14 assists in one quarter."

Steve Blake

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Like, say, an afterlife?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

"14 assists in one quarter."

Steve Blake

Proof of an infinite universe.

 

[BlazerWookee]

"Anything's Possible!"

Kevin Garnett, who was too dumb to remember that he was supposed to be saying "Impossible is Nothing!"

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Shit can you move this Sly?

Who are you calling s*** and why do you want to move Sly. Well, I get the obvious reasons...

 

[Denny Crane]

To see the world in a grain of sand, and to see heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hands, and eternity in an hour.

William Blake

Blake used to play for the Blazers, right?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

no some dude blanky did though

 

[jlprk]

Is it possible that anyone in the universe besides Magnifier would spend 2 hours to watch that video?

 

[speeds]

Is it possible that anyone in the universe besides Magnifier would spend 2 hours to watch that video?

In an infinite universe, there are infinite identical and near-identical Magnifiers watching that video.

 

[jlprk]

Have you ever wondered whether nighttime creaks and groans in your house are caused by monsters an inch away in a parallel dimension who are watching you?

 

[Eastoff]

i don't like the way you are taking it out of context. infinite time or infinite trials do not magically make the impossible possible. all you can infer is given infinite time/trials whatever is possible will occur.



not true either. in an infinite universe viewed as a whole there is no such thing as probability. whatever is possible will happen infinite times. whatever is impossible will happen zero times. probability is only meaningful if you look at finite sections/durations of the universe or relational frequencies between different (not impossible) events.




this is a gobbledygooky misuse of the above concept.

the creationist can say god exists. obviously if god exists he is infinite by definition, and creation is possible by definition and nothing more needs to be said.

I think he just means that both sides of that argument can interpret it to their own view.

 

[Eastoff]

Have you ever wondered whether nighttime creaks and groans in your house are caused by monsters an inch away in a parallel dimension who are watching you?

briefly, once. No joke.

 

[Eastoff]

"Everyone you will ever meet, knows something you don't."
Bill Nye (the science guy)

 

[crandc]

The universe is not infinite.

 

[jlprk]

briefly, once. No joke.

"Briefly" in our time dimension could be eons in theirs. Long enough to get very, very hungry watching you.

 

[Eastoff]

The universe is not infinite.

no, but it is expanding at an ever increasing rate.

 

[crowTrobot]

The universe is not infinite.

prove that and win a nobel prize

 

[crowTrobot]

I think he just means that both sides of that argument can interpret it to their own view.

the statement is a simple logical proposition, not a complex philosophical argument. there are no differing sides or "interpretations" available.

he just doesn't understand the logic and is misusing it for nonsensical wishful thinking.

 

[Eastoff]

the statement is a simple logical proposition, not a complex philosophical argument. there are no differing sides or "interpretations" available.

he just doesn't understand the logic and is misusing it for nonsensical wishful thinking.

You're right, I re-read it again.

 

[BlazerWookee]

no, but it is expanding at an ever increasing rate.

Into what?

 

[Eastoff]

Into what?

Yes, exactly. That's the mindfuck. There is nothing there that it's expanding into. It's just expanding.

 

[magnifier661]

i don't like the way you are taking it out of context. infinite time or infinite trials do not magically make the impossible possible. all you can infer is given infinite time/trials whatever is possible will occur.

Actually you are dead wrong. Infinite possibilities will allow for anything to take place. There could be a species that have evolved for well over zillions of years; and their technology could far exceed what we know today. From the moment Einstien came up with a breakthrough just 100 years ago; propelled our civilization into a much more advanced society. That one discovery accelerated our thinking and technology.

not true either. in an infinite universe viewed as a whole there is no such thing as probability. whatever is possible will happen infinite times. whatever is impossible will happen zero times. probability is only meaningful if you look at finite sections/durations of the universe or relational frequencies between different (not impossible) events.

The term "probability" is discussed with "what we don't know" and since you or I or any historical man hasn't proven God doesn't exist, then it cannot be viewed as impossible. And because as you pointed out probable is only used in finite sections or durations; then the concept of God does not apply.

this is a gobbledygooky misuse of the above concept.

the creationist can say god exists. obviously if god exists he is infinite by definition, and creation is possible by definition and nothing more needs to be said.

What gets me is how you are so in need to try and break down anyone's philosophy when it related to creation. Its as almost if you fear it or something. My thread didn't discredit athiesm; yet you took offense. In fact, I made it pretty clear that I didn't want to take it to that level. But hey; you want to banter about there is no such thing as God and anyone who believes in God is a joke; then you are more than welcome. I will stick to the concept that anything is possible; therefor God is as possible as the universe happened by chance.

 

[magnifier661]

Like, say, an afterlife?

Yes that could be one way of thinking. Maybe there isn't a God; yet when we die, something at a moleculer level takes place and we still have some moleculer memory. And I am not debating the existence or non-existence of God. I am just think that quote can open our minds. That we don't always need to look at things as possible and impossible. When the Universe is infinite; then improbable is definitely very possible.