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Time for Donna to be tarred, feathered and discredited by fellow Democrats and the mainstream news.

I swear, the harder the Dems try to deny, the worse they look. And they still don't realize it. Maybe next election they can get Kim Jong elected on the Republican ticket by somehow producing a worse candidate.
 
I mean it just goes to show you both sides do bad shit. Politics is just a corrupt game, it's fucked and so are the people. Shit happens all the time. Every time I bring it up on this forum, a couple ideologues like to jump and say "NO NO NO, THEY ARENT CORRUPT!!!"

yeah well, hold my beer
 
Cippy91 said:
I mean it just goes to show you both sides do bad shit. Politics is just a corrupt game, it's fucked and so are the people. Shit happens all the time. Every time I bring it up on this forum, a couple ideologues like to jump and say "NO NO NO, THEY ARENT CORRUPT!!!"

yeah well, hold my beer
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We know many of them are corrupt. Few of them aren't. But instead of simply labeling it corrupt lets ask a question:

Why?

We all know the answer.
Money. Unlimited amounts of money.

Then there's a 2nd question:

What happens when you follow the money?

We all know the answer.
Follow the money and you will find the root of the problem. Unlimited amounts of private money in our elections is the entire reason for the corruption.

Last question:

What do you want to do about it?
 
dviss1 said:
We know many of them are corrupt. Few of them aren't. But instead of simply labeling it corrupt lets ask a question:

Why?

We all know the answer.
Money. Unlimited amounts of money.

Then there's a 2nd question:

What happens when you follow the money?

We all know the answer.
Follow the money and you will find the root of the problem. Unlimited amounts of private money in our elections is the entire reason for the corruption.

Last question:

What do you want to do about it?
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Money and power. It's quite simple. Can't do anything about it really.
 
dviss1 said:
We know many of them are corrupt. Few of them aren't. But instead of simply labeling it corrupt lets ask a question:

Why?

We all know the answer.
Money. Unlimited amounts of money.

Then there's a 2nd question:

What happens when you follow the money?

We all know the answer.
Follow the money and you will find the root of the problem. Unlimited amounts of private money in our elections is the entire reason for the corruption.

Last question:

What do you want to do about it?
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Easy fix.

You execute the loser immediately after the election.

I promise you neither Trump or Hillary would have ran. Bernie still would have, he's a true believe.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Easy fix.

You execute the loser immediately after the election.

I promise you neither Trump or Hillary would have ran. Bernie still would have, he's a true believe.
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Be real about it bro.
 
dviss1 said:
:lol:

When you said "Can't do anything about it really." I thought that was leading to you trying to get me to answer my question about what to do about it.
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no, I just don't think you can stop these people from doing these corrupt things. They do it all behind closed doors. Think about it. If Harvey weinstein was able to get away with what he did for all those years, being a creepy fuck, imagine what politicians, especially the clintons can get away with. They can act right in front of the camera and tell you want to hear but they probably have done some unforgivable shit behind closed doors.
 
Cippy91 said:
no, I just don't think you can stop these people from doing these corrupt things. They do it all behind closed doors. Think about it. If Harvey weinstein was able to get away with what he did for all those years, being a creepy fuck, imagine what politicians, especially the clintons can get away with. They can act right in front of the camera and tell you want to hear but they probably have done some unforgivable shit behind closed doors.
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All that and you still trust that Orange MF?

Think about it. Look at Jeff Flake and Bob Corker. They aren't running for re-election. They don't have ANY private money over their heads nor the need for it.

What are they saying? What's really on their hearts.

When you don't have a primary where someone can dump unlimited amounts of cash into your election you can speak and act freely.

See, these MFs are more worried about their "jobs" than ours. We need to make them worry.
 
dviss1 said:
All that and you still trust that Orange MF?

Think about it. Look at Jeff Flake and Bob Corker. They aren't running for re-election. They don't have ANY private money over their heads nor the need for it.

What are they saying? What's really on their hearts.

When you don't have a primary where someone can dump unlimited amounts of cash into your election you can speak and act freely.

See, these MFs are more worried about their "jobs" than ours. We need to make them worry.
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Who said I trusted trump? I don’t. Don’t trust any politician.
 
I've noticed a lot of liberals and left leaning people are still very pro- Democratic party. It's seems like conservatives are less interested in the Republican party itself, and simply more interested in conservative ideas. I don't understand how people can still support the DNC. It's a corrupt organization. The RNC probably is just as bad, but conservatives don't flock to it the way leftists still (somehow with a straight face) flock to their respective party. The fucking jig is up. Ditch these fucking losers already, on both sides.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Easy fix.

You execute the loser immediately after the election.

I promise you neither Trump or Hillary would have ran. Bernie still would have, he's a true believe.
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Bernie would have lost to Cruz.
 
dviss1 said:
All that and you still trust that Orange MF?

Think about it. Look at Jeff Flake and Bob Corker. They aren't running for re-election. They don't have ANY private money over their heads nor the need for it.

What are they saying? What's really on their hearts.

When you don't have a primary where someone can dump unlimited amounts of cash into your election you can speak and act freely.

See, these MFs are more worried about their "jobs" than ours. We need to make them worry.
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Those guys are bitter old white men who have their jobs taken away by Trump and his ability to influence voters.

I'd be really suspicious about what they have to say. They might be auditioning for a nomination for office by the democrats.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
A constitutional amendment to take money out of politics.

http://www.wolf-pac.com/the_plan
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I see no actual plan or text of any proposed amendment.

If the plan is to allow Hillary to take over all the money (like she did with the DNC), then it's not going to be free and fair elections.

That's a "for example" point, not a means to change the subject. If the plan allows Trump or the next republican to control the election process, we're all fucked.
 
Yes, anyone who speaks out against President Cheeto is doing it because they secretly want to be a democrat.
 
A bitter sore loser.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-shows-flake-down-huge-in-primary-and-general

Poll shows Flake down huge in primary and general election

A new poll shows Sen.Jeff Flake(R-Ariz.) down by huge numbers among Arizona Republicans and trailing his opponents in both the GOP primary and general elections.

Flake scored only a 25 percent favorability rating among Republican primary voters in anew pollby the left-leaning GBA Strategies group, with a 56 percent unfavorable rating. Over half of voters disapprove of the job Flake is doing, with 59 percent disapproving and only 34 percent approving.
 
Denny Crane said:
Those guys are bitter old white men who have their jobs taken away by Trump and his ability to influence voters.

I'd be really suspicious about what they have to say. They might be auditioning for a nomination for office by the democrats.
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Hilarious, CLUELESS take Denny... Real top notch post...

:smiley-klap1:
 
Denny Crane said:
A bitter sore loser.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-shows-flake-down-huge-in-primary-and-general

Poll shows Flake down huge in primary and general election

A new poll shows Sen.Jeff Flake(R-Ariz.) down by huge numbers among Arizona Republicans and trailing his opponents in both the GOP primary and general elections.

Flake scored only a 25 percent favorability rating among Republican primary voters in anew pollby the left-leaning GBA Strategies group, with a 56 percent unfavorable rating. Over half of voters disapprove of the job Flake is doing, with 59 percent disapproving and only 34 percent approving.
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But he's not even running for reelection though so..... :dunno:
 
dviss1 said:
But he's not even running for reelection though so..... :dunno:
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He got out after seeing the polls. The polls are a direct result of his war with Trump, for good or bad.

Sheesh.

You're actually proving my point. You seem to love the guy, so he might even get your vote as a democrat. If you could vote for him, that is.
 
Denny Crane said:
He got out after seeing the polls. The polls are a direct result of his war with Trump, for good or bad.

Sheesh.

You're actually proving my point. You seem to love the guy, so he might even get your vote as a democrat. If you could vote for him, that is.
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Stupid post.

Bottom line:

When politicians don't have a primary to worry about, they can act with their heart. They can stand on principle. The idiocy of this is that Flake has voted 100% lock step with Donald.

So it's bullshit Denny.
 
dviss1 said:
Stupid post.

Bottom line:

When politicians don't have a primary to worry about, they can act with their heart. They can stand on principle. The idiocy of this is that Flake has voted 100% lock step with Donald.

So it's bullshit Denny.
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Bottom line, you're making it up as you go :)

Again, the facts are what they are.

This is before he decided to not embarrass himself by losing his seat.


https://apnews.com/d85a200874fc483d...n=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP
Oct. 08, 2017

Arizona Sen. Flake’s vulnerability feeds GOP Senate concerns

After bucking Donald Trump in a state the president won, Flake is bottoming out in polls. Yet Republicans look like they may be stuck with a hard-core conservative challenger who some fear could win the primary but lose in the general election.

A White House search for a candidate to replace former state Sen. Kelli Ward in the primary appears to have hit a wall. And now conservatives want to turn Arizona into the latest example of a Trump Train outsider taking down a member of the GOP establishment.

“People are fooling themselves if they think Jeff Flake is anything but a walking dead member of the United State Senate,” said Andy Surabian, whose Great America Alliance is backing Ward.

“I don’t see how he survives a primary. I don’t see how he survives a general. The numbers just don’t add up,” added Surabian, who worked at the White House as an adviser to Steve Bannon, then the president’s top strategist.

Despite discontent among some Republicans over Ward, Bannon met with her last week at a conservative conference in Colorado Springs to encourage her campaign, according to a Republican official who spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose the previously unreported private meeting.

Ward unsuccessfully challenged Arizona’s senior senator, John McCain, in last year’s election, losing in the primary by a wide margin. But in Flake, she would face a more vulnerable candidate at a moment when the GOP establishment is on the defensive, facing a simmering anti-incumbent mood heightened by Republicans’ failure to make good on seven years of promises to scrap Barack Obama’s health care law.

Flake is in danger of becoming the latest victim of this voter wrath. Yet rather than making an effort to soothe pro-Trump GOP voters, he’s all but dared them to take him down by kicking off his campaign with an anti-Trump manifesto, “Conscience of a Conservative,” a book in which he bemoaned his party’s failure to stand up to Trump in last year’s presidential race.


Nevertheless, Flake, 54, insists he won’t be getting out of the race. The primary is Aug. 29.
 
Denny Crane said:
Bottom line, you're making it up as you go :)

Again, the facts are what they are.

This is before he decided to not embarrass himself by losing his seat.


https://apnews.com/d85a200874fc483d...n=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP
Oct. 08, 2017

Arizona Sen. Flake’s vulnerability feeds GOP Senate concerns

After bucking Donald Trump in a state the president won, Flake is bottoming out in polls. Yet Republicans look like they may be stuck with a hard-core conservative challenger who some fear could win the primary but lose in the general election.

A White House search for a candidate to replace former state Sen. Kelli Ward in the primary appears to have hit a wall. And now conservatives want to turn Arizona into the latest example of a Trump Train outsider taking down a member of the GOP establishment.

“People are fooling themselves if they think Jeff Flake is anything but a walking dead member of the United State Senate,” said Andy Surabian, whose Great America Alliance is backing Ward.

“I don’t see how he survives a primary. I don’t see how he survives a general. The numbers just don’t add up,” added Surabian, who worked at the White House as an adviser to Steve Bannon, then the president’s top strategist.

Despite discontent among some Republicans over Ward, Bannon met with her last week at a conservative conference in Colorado Springs to encourage her campaign, according to a Republican official who spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose the previously unreported private meeting.

Ward unsuccessfully challenged Arizona’s senior senator, John McCain, in last year’s election, losing in the primary by a wide margin. But in Flake, she would face a more vulnerable candidate at a moment when the GOP establishment is on the defensive, facing a simmering anti-incumbent mood heightened by Republicans’ failure to make good on seven years of promises to scrap Barack Obama’s health care law.

Flake is in danger of becoming the latest victim of this voter wrath. Yet rather than making an effort to soothe pro-Trump GOP voters, he’s all but dared them to take him down by kicking off his campaign with an anti-Trump manifesto, “Conscience of a Conservative,” a book in which he bemoaned his party’s failure to stand up to Trump in last year’s presidential race.


Nevertheless, Flake, 54, insists he won’t be getting out of the race. The primary is Aug. 29.
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You're missing the point. The reason for him getting out matters not. What matters is when politicians don't have to worry about a primary, they can act on principle.
 
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