Is Lillard a shooting guard?

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Natebishop3 said:
Okay, and?

4 points, 3-9 shooting, 1-4 from downtown against Phoenix
5 points, 1-5 shooting, 1-3 from downtown against Sac
11 points, 3-11 shooting, 2-5 from downtown against Utah
8 points, 3-5 shooting, 2-4 from downtown against Utah
4 points, 0-3 shooting, 0-1 from downtown against Phoenix
6 points, 2-10 shooting, 0-4 from downtown against LAC

Tell me he isn't struggling right now...
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I thought this wasn't a thread about picking on players, and was about Lillard? :dunno:
 
I am actually really concerned with Matthews. He seems it's more than a funk. I really think his heart isn't in Portland anymore
 
Yoda_of_the_MODA said:
I thought this wasn't a thread about picking on players, and was about Lillard? :dunno:
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The point of bringing up Wes is simple:

* Wes is struggling

* Lillard could be a shooting guard

* If you move Lillard to shooting guard, who becomes the point guard?
 
yuyuza1 said:
Was it Rasta who suggested we look at drafting MCW and put him next to Dame as the primary ball handler?

Oh boy. Should be a few old thread bumps upcoming after that monster debut.
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His line was insane. 9 steals, 7 rebounds, 12 assists, 4-6 from 3pt ? wtf? How could so many people be wrong about this guy. I know it is one game, but serious? only 1 TO?
 
Natebishop3 said:
The point of bringing up Wes is simple:

* Wes is struggling

* Lillard could be a shooting guard

* If you move Lillard to shooting guard, who becomes the point guard?
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From the forensics, I thought Wes at SG next to Lillard played better than Mo at PG next to Lillard.

Now, if you want to bring up having Wright and Batum in at the same time instead of Wes, I'm much more open.
 
magnifier661 said:
I am actually really concerned with Matthews. He seems it's more than a funk. I really think his heart isn't in Portland anymore
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Mags what are you talking about? He busted his ass out there. Not saying he played great, but the heart and the effort was there for sure.
 
BrianFromWA said:
From the forensics, I thought Wes at SG next to Lillard played better than Mo at PG next to Lillard.

Now, if you want to bring up having Wright and Batum in at the same time instead of Wes, I'm much more open.
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No, I wouldn't be in favor of Mo starting. For Lillard to be effective at shooting guard, we'd need to bring in a passer. Someone like Andre Miller.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The point of bringing up Wes is simple:

* Wes is struggling

* Lillard could be a shooting guard

* If you move Lillard to shooting guard, who becomes the point guard?
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Sure, but you messed up Wes' stats from the game tonight, and basically blamed him for the loss. You started the thread, right? Then you brought up Wes, right? Then you were corrected on Wes' game, right? Then when I pointed out how bad Lopez and Mo W. were tonight, you said this wasn't a thread about pointing fingers, right?

Oh well, whatever. I still think Lillard is a PG, because if he's a SG, this franchise is pretty much screwed for the foreseeable future.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Now, if you want to bring up having Wright and Batum in at the same time instead of Wes, I'm much more open.
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That was our most efficient lineup that we've seen so far.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Mags what are you talking about? He busted his ass out there. Not saying he played great, but the heart and the effort was there for sure.
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I really hope I'm wrong. I absolutely love Matthews. Something just doesn't seem right man.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
His line was insane. 9 steals, 7 rebounds, 12 assists, 4-6 from 3pt ? wtf? How could so many people be wrong about this guy. I know it is one game, but serious? only 1 TO?
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Natebishop3 said:
No, I wouldn't be in favor of Mo starting. For Lillard to be effective at shooting guard, we'd need to bring in a passer. Someone like Andre Miller.
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Why would you play Lillard at SG? Lillard has enough issues on defense, let alone watching PG after PG dribble around Miller like he's stuck in mud.
 
About MCW, he didn't work out for Portland, and didn't want to play here. We all posted about this quite a bit before the draft.

http://blogs.trailblazers.com/Broad...188/EntryID/4984/BroadcasterID/4/Default.aspx

So you have to respect a player who actually speaks honestly at this point in the process, as I believe Syracuse sophomore point guard Michael Carter-Williams, who Chad Ford has the Trail Blazers selecting in his most recent mock draft, did today when asked how he'd feel about going to a team like the Trail Blazers, a team that already has an established player, in this case, Damian Lillard, at his position.

"I interviewed with Portland; I never went to work out with them," said Carter-Williams. "This year they had a point guard in Damian Lillard. If I get chosen by them, it's not something I can do, it's not a particular place where I choose to go, but I'd go there and make the best of it and then see what happens when my time comes."
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Natebishop3 said:
Before the season started I thought that Lillard's assists would go up because of the added weapons, but his assists seem to be going down. He's the best pure scorer on our team though.

Would you move Lillard to a Dwyane Wade role and have someone else play point guard? Maybe see if Denver would trade Miller back to us?

Wes is clearly the weakest link right now. He played like crap in the preseason and it has carried over to the regular season. If Wes did anything tonight, we would have been in this game.

He went 0-3 for 4 points in 26 minutes. He was basically a ghost.
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I don't think that at all. But the coach needs to put in and offense calling for him to create using his threat. We need to see a whole lot more of getting the ball to big people coming to the ball and the hoop
in the same motion. Damian could be outstanding doing it but the coach has to set the tone with plays to execute.
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
During the 22-0 run it was.....That is the only time I remember it for an extended time. (against GS)
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I think so, too. Why haven't we seen it more to find out if it's for real?
 
MarAzul said:
I don't think that at all. But the coach needs to put in and offense calling for him to create using his threat. We need to see a whole lot more of getting the ball to big people coming to the ball and the hoop
in the same motion. Damian could be outstanding doing it but the coach has to set the tone with plays to execute.
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I am not sure I want to see that kind of an offense. We only have one big who can score. And he was 12-22. So he got quality shots tonight. Do we have any other bigs? Not happy with the style of O we run, but not sure our bigs are the answer
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I am not sure I want to see that kind of an offense. We only have one big who can score. And he was 12-22. So he got quality shots tonight. Do we have any other bigs? Not happy with the style of O we run, but not sure our bigs are the answer
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I would have much rather seen Thomas Robinson over Joel Freeland.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Joel played 12 minutes and TRob played 9.......did he really play over Robinson?
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Those are 12 minutes that Robinson could have played. I still think the rotation should be Aldridge, Lopez, and Robinson. Just rotate Lopez out first, then have Lopez come in for Aldridge.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Those are 12 minutes that Robinson could have played. I still think the rotation should be Aldridge, Lopez, and Robinson. Just rotate Lopez out first, then have Lopez come in for Aldridge.
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Freeland had 4 rebounds in 12 minutes, but again, I thought this wasn't a thread about pointing fingers? So many off-topic diversions in it. :dunno:
 
Yoda_of_the_MODA said:
Freeland had 4 rebounds in 12 minutes, but again, I thought this wasn't a thread about pointing fingers? So many off-topic diversions in it. :dunno:
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How is that pointing fingers? I think that Robinson is the better player. I think he should be playing more minutes. Did I blame Freeland for the loss?
 
Natebishop3 said:
How is that pointing fingers? I think that Robinson is the better player. I think he should be playing more minutes. Did I blame Freeland for the loss?
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No, you blamed Wes for the loss, then said not to point fingers. Then, you brought up Freeland out of the blue.

If the idea is to run an on-topic board, which I think would be awesome, then at the very least the OP should keep the thread on topic.
 
Yoda_of_the_MODA said:
No, you blamed Wes for the loss, then said not to point fingers. Then, you brought up Freeland out of the blue.

If the idea is to run an on-topic board, which I think would be awesome, then at the very least the OP should keep the thread on topic.
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Typical PapaG. Worried more about the meta debate. There were five threads bashing the team tonight. Why do you choose this one to derail? Oh, that's right, because I started it. Carry on.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Typical PapaG. Worried more about the meta debate. There were five threads bashing the team tonight. Why do you choose this one to derail? Oh, that's right, because I started it. Carry on.
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I posted about Lillard as SG, and how I think it's a bad idea because of his skillset, which I compare to a Derrick Rose PG.

As for picking out this thread, that's not at all the case, Nate, and I didn't derail the thread. You did, IMO, by bringing up stats about Wes, getting them wrong, and then talking about finger-pointing being a no-no, while afterward going back to finger-pointing.

Just making sure you realize that you are a part of the problem, and not the victim.
 
Yoda_of_the_MODA said:
That's not at all the case, Nate, and I didn't derail the thread. You did, by bringing up stats about Wes, getting them wrong, and then talking about finger-pointing being a no-no, while afterward going back to finger-pointing.

Just making sure you realize that you are a part of the problem, and not a victim.
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I brought up Wes in the OP because this is a thread about Lillard playing shooting guard....... which is... what? Wes' position! Bringing up Wes' struggles were tantamount to the topic at hand.

I said that it wasn't a thread for finger pointing because you started bringing up other players that played poorly tonight. Wes and his poor play is directly related to the subject at hand.

Get it?
 
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