Is Nash effin serious?

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either he starts producing or he should be bought out. Seriously, this guy better start playing like an "elite" player. He does shit for this team, does not step up. Why pay him a ton of money to party in NYC and play half azz on the ice. Buy him out of hes gonna play like shit


Nothing like the 2011-2012 team, Sather and is old fuk azz ruined this team by not signing back prust and trading the 2 home grown guys for Nash who is a loser
 
The 2 home grown guys would go into stretches where they did nothing for 20 games. However, I do agree that Nash is absolutely killing this team. He has cost us 7 to 8 games this season with his crap play.
 
Plus, you don't buy Nash out you clown. That is moronic. You trade him. He would still bring back a ton. If Montreal wants to trade Pacioretty for him, at this point I would consider it.
 
I am not sure coming off 2 concussions with a cap hit of almost $8m that Nash brings back a ton.

He has 2 goals in December and 5 points in 12 games. That is terrible. This team is just so frustrating to watch as a fan. I know the supporting cast isn't really there and there are tons of holes that can be fixed but if your TOP guys are going to play like pussies this team really has no shot. For this team to do anything over the next few years guys like Nash have to be great and I just don't see it happening. If we were losing and Nash was the beast he should be I would be a lot more optimistic about next year and beyond.
 
He's still Rick Nash. A slump doesn't change that. That is what Rangers fans constantly forget. When a Rangers player hits a slump, they think his value just goes to nothing. Doesn't work like that. A couple of good games and idiot scouts start to get excited again. Scouts are no better than fans sometimes. It just depends what games they see a player, play.
 
I do agree with that comment Dump and you are right, they look big picture not the last month. But the problem is the concussions. He just doesn't really go into the dirty areas anymore. If he is in front of the net he is diving on the ice now. He also doesn't seem to attack defensemen on the rush either. I hope its just a slump but I am starting to wonder if the hit Lucic gave him last year started this. He was absolutely horrendous in the playoffs. He has been terrible in December after missing most of November. Will see how it plays out but it doesn't look good.

Without Rick Nash playing well the mini rebuild is not going to work.
 
With Nash having his head up his ass, I stand by how critical it is to trade Girardi, Callahan, Brassard and Boyle for as many prospects and picks as they can get. They need to get back at least 3, high quality players from the picks or prospects in those deals to make up for the injuries of Nash, Staal and Sauer.
 
They might as well at this point. They also might as well just shut Nash down too, he clearly isn't healthy or is at least afraid of getting hit. As you said, a guy like that is just not very effective playing on the perimeter
 
Nash has 7 goals in his last 34 games. That is simply amazing. This started in the playoffs last season, not when he came back this season. I think you guys are right though. He never goes in front. You never see him bull to the net and use his size. He has become a soft wing player. He is playing not to take the big hit and get concussed again, and you cannot do that. If he is going to play this way his career will be "over" in terms of being a big time elite player.

And no way you buy him out. First you deal him for something before you buy him out. Although his value is not what it was when we dealt for him he would get us something back. Second we only have one buyout left, and that has Brad Richards name all over it.

We can do whatever we want this summer. Sign guys. Trade for guys. If Nash plays like a soft winger with a 7.8 mill cap hit, we are F'd no matter what. We need him to play like Rick Nash or we are screwed.
 
Right now he looks like he's just going through the motions, trying to play as many years in the league as he can to get paid. If I was the coach, I'd scratch him and tell him to let me know when he wants to play his game again, then I'd dress him.
 
And I agree with you guys. We finish this trip at 1-4 maybe you do sit Nash and let him rest and clear his head. I am sure he is going to say he is fine, but his play says something totally different. I doubt it is physical at this point, this is mental IMO. That is what makes it difficult. Either he gets over it or not. Rest maybe could help because he can step away and watch for a while, maybe that will get him going again, but it needs to click in his head or it will never change. The guy is the spin king now. Never goes hard, always spins softly. Sad to see.
 
Right on Struds. 100% right. This isn't just a slump for Nash. This is how he plays. I told you guys before the trade he never goes into the dirty areas. He only used his strength in front of the net. For the most part when he was a Jacket, he hung at the blue line, let others do all the work, and did nothing by try to score goals. Like ARod on Texas. A loser team, he swung for the fences with every swing because that's all he had to play for. It amazed me how everyone was mesmerized was by Nash's 40 goals 5 years ago. I knew this trade was a disaster from the start.
 
dumppyattnow said:
Right now he looks like he's just going through the motions, trying to play as many years in the league as he can to get paid. If I was the coach, I'd scratch him and tell him to let me know when he wants to play his game again, then I'd dress him.
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That works for me.
 
dumppyattnow said:
Right now he looks like he's just going through the motions, trying to play as many years in the league as he can to get paid. If I was the coach, I'd scratch him and tell him to let me know when he wants to play his game again, then I'd dress him.
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AV needs to get the balls to scratch him. Enough with the hands off approach!
 
NYR1962 said:
Right on Struds. 100% right. This isn't just a slump for Nash. This is how he plays. I told you guys before the trade he never goes into the dirty areas. He only used his strength in front of the net. For the most part when he was a Jacket, he hung at the blue line, let others do all the work, and did nothing by try to score goals. Like ARod on Texas. A loser team, he swung for the fences with every swing because that's all he had to play for. It amazed me how everyone was mesmerized was by Nash's 40 goals 5 years ago. I knew this trade was a disaster from the start.
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NYR1962...I fully agree with your assessment. And this is why Sather
must go. He has no vision for the NY Rangers. He's been shakin & bakin
since he came here. Never producing a full 4 line team in his 15 years here. He continues to rid home grown players for flops.
He's turned out to be a sham. And again the Rangers have no upward direction. They are stuck again.
 
Thanks cagedlion. I'm totally with you on Sather and the direction of the team, I mean lack of. I hated Sather for so long, then had to give him credit when he finally built a team, mostly from within. Probably why I'm so disappointed he dismantled it so quickly. My hatred for this man has come all the way back. We once again have a boring, rudderless ship with no identity.
 
Who wants to put money that Nash has a great Olympics. ...

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Oh, poor little Chucky. Never really likes to hear the truth. Always thinks a move or two will make this team a SC winner.
 
Has nothing to do with that. We 100% need a mini re-make this summer no questions asked. But you two go too far. Like everything is terrible and awful. Re-build from scratch and we'll see you in 3 or 4 years. I don't see it that way at all. With all the cap space we have this summer, and the free agents we have, we can get it done this summer with the right moves.
 
62, we both did not want that Nash trade. I have been screaming not to do this. I think it is time to dismantle this team and do a complete rebuild, but first Sather must go.

I disagree with many of you on Girardi. The guy is made out of steel and play on top pair for many years, since Tyutin right? Why did we let Tyutin go in the first place? Girardi does not get hurt and he will play for many years to come. Look at Rozy, he contributed some major minutes for Hawks in their championship run and he is probably one of the slowest Ds in the league. Giradi will not get hurt and will play until he is 40. If we have to overpay for him then that is what we shall do. If Stall was healthy then yes, I agree we can let Girardi go but Stall is one hit away from ending his career. He is a decent shutdown D who is home grown. Do not make the same mistake as we did with Prust, Orr, Dubi, AA and others that we let go and/or traded.

Also, I do not see why we are trading DZ for another DZ? Cody Fransen probably the only guy who is okay to trade with but all other rumors just not making sense to me.
 
See, dismantle the team and do a complete re-build. Not happening. If we planned to do that, why re-sign Hank? In NY no shot we do that and punt on 3 years or so of Hank's and Nash's primes.
 
I agree Nash has not played well at all but the guy has trade value and would return to his old scoring ways on most other NHL teams. I think the problem with Nash is when teams take a run at him like Stuart in the San Jose game they know there will be no retaliation, that chump Asham should have been released the next day for doing nothing. I don't care who you are if you feel your teammates don't have your back you have to look out for #1.

This Rangers softness has been the case for years. Boyle gets bum rushed and pummeled by McGratton with no retaliation (I still think that's where Torts lost a lot of this team, he should have dressed John Scott the next game); Phaneuf illegally boards Sauer and ends his career, nothing from the Rangers but hands in the air and pleas to the refs; Staal gets levelled by his brother and nothing but a glare or two; McDonough elbowed in the head and concussed by Cooke with no similar response. This is why you need a goon or two during the regular season and why it's maddening to read posts from the hockey pacifists who say there's no place for fighters, the Rangers offer a concrete example of what happens to the team that takes the high road and counts on the officiating to keep things fair.

Clean hit or not Bernier should have had to answer for dropping the shoulder on Staal, Dorsett is the only guy on the roster who seems to understand this but his size keeps him from being effective. I also think Nash is learning that when you don the Blueshirt the mostly Canadian officiating crews show their lack of professional integrity and turn a blind eye to cheap shots. Nash didn't dive at the end of the Cap game, he was thrown to the ice, should have been holding/interference/tripping but no whistle. Years ago I remember Shanahan marveling at the lack of calls against his teammate Jagr. I think this plays a big part in how Nash plays now, if he charges forward he's going to be slashed or tripped and there will be no call but if he even raises his stick to the waist level of an opponent he's going to the box. This has been the case for decades, NHL officials are like Professional wrestling refs, they always seem to be looking the other way when there's a penalty committed on a Ranger but see everything done including things that aren't there by a Ranger.
 
Chuck, this team is going to get worse and worse. We have maybe 2 good prospects, that is it. We are done. Nash sucks, and he will not work on this team. We had a chance to win few years ago by being a hard team to play against. Maybe you right, and we had no chance of winning that way because guys will get tired by ECF but it was the best chance we had without tanking for 5 years. Now this team is done.
 
I guess we'll find out this summer and into next season 09. I think we can be re-made this off-season and be near the top next season, but we will see.

What I can say is right or wrong, no shot we do this complete re-make and dismantle the whole team. Just not happening. No shot at all.
 
Panz, I agree with you but you have a few if the facts wrong...

The 2011-2012 team was very tough, led the league in fights and manhandled teams like the flyers and bruins...

Also, Carkner jumped Boyle, Boucher hit Staal and Phanuef layer a clean hit on Sauer, he just unfortunately hit his head on the ice.

All in all this team needs to become tougher, they are soft as hell right now. They aren't skilled like the Red Wings to play a puck possession game
 
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I'd like to know when Sather is gong to get smart and find the players who are big enough, strong enough and physical enough to protect their franchise players? While I like the fact that Boyle has no problem going after certain players, I would not want him watching my back if I were on the ice with him.
 
WTF? Nash makes the Canadian Olympic team. So typical
how this league rolls. Has anybody watched how this
overrated, one dimensional player has performed this year?

What a crock.
 
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