Is Thorn backtracking?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

then say goodbye to Sean Williams</p>

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Yes. The question, of course, is whether Rod wants to try to win a championship within the next two years. Sean won't help them do that.</p>

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I disagree. I think Sean could absolutely be a contributor on a championship contender this year, though not a starter.</p>

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I'm in this camp- I think he's one of the most important pieces on a solid Nets playoff team.</p>

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[ghoti]

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Frank will veto any deal involving Collins.</p>

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Haha. They've been desperate to get rid of Collins since 2005.</p>

Last year even Frank looked like he wanted to throttle him.</p>

He's hard to trade.</p>

Buuuuuut... he was a major factor in winning a playoff series last season, so he has some value to a good team (and ONLY a good team).</p>

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[Dumpy]

collins can contribute to a team as the Nets are currently configured. Trade Kidd, and that might change.</p>

 

[JAMES.SLIMM]

Pistons Nazr Mohhammed just got dealt to the BoBCats to Walter Hermann and Primo Brezec</p>

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

collins can contribute to a team as the Nets are currently configured. Trade Kidd, and that might change.</p>

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no he can't.</p>

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Frank will veto any deal involving Collins.</p>

</div></p>

Haha. They've been desperate to get rid of Collins since 2005.</p>

Last year even Frank looked like he wanted to throttle him.</p>

He's hard to trade.</p>

Buuuuuut... he was a major factor in winning a playoff series last season, so he has some value to a good team (and ONLY a good team).</p>

</p>

</p>

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nope, no good team will touch his contract until his final year. all the "good" teams aren't looking to add unecessary salary</p>

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Frank will veto any deal involving Collins.</p>

</div></p>

Haha. They've been desperate to get rid of Collins since 2005.</p>

Last year even Frank looked like he wanted to throttle him.</p>

He's hard to trade.</p>

Buuuuuut... he was a major factor in winning a playoff series last season, so he has some value to a good team (and ONLY a good team).</p>

</p>

</p>

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nope, no good team will touch his contract until his final year. all the "good" teams aren't looking to add unecessary salary</p>

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Frank will veto any deal involving Collins.</p>

</div></p>

Haha. They've been desperate to get rid of Collins since 2005.</p>

Last year even Frank looked like he wanted to throttle him.</p>

He's hard to trade.</p>

Buuuuuut... he was a major factor in winning a playoff series last season, so he has some value to a good team (and ONLY a good team).</p>

</p>

</p>

</div></p>

nope, no good team will touch his contract until his final year. all the "good" teams aren't looking to add unecessary salary</p>

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Frank will veto any deal involving Collins.</p>

</div></p>

Haha. They've been desperate to get rid of Collins since 2005.</p>

Last year even Frank looked like he wanted to throttle him.</p>

He's hard to trade.</p>

Buuuuuut... he was a major factor in winning a playoff series last season, so he has some value to a good team (and ONLY a good team).</p>

</p>

</p>

</div></p>

nope, no good team will touch his contract until his final year. all the "good" teams aren't looking to add unecessary salary</p>

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Frank will veto any deal involving Collins.</p>

</div></p>

Haha. They've been desperate to get rid of Collins since 2005.</p>

Last year even Frank looked like he wanted to throttle him.</p>

He's hard to trade.</p>

Buuuuuut... he was a major factor in winning a playoff series last season, so he has some value to a good team (and ONLY a good team).</p>

</p>

</p>

</div></p>

nope, no good team will touch his contract until his final year. all the "good" teams aren't looking to add unecessary salary</p>

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Frank will veto any deal involving Collins.</p>

</div></p>

Haha. They've been desperate to get rid of Collins since 2005.</p>

Last year even Frank looked like he wanted to throttle him.</p>

He's hard to trade.</p>

Buuuuuut... he was a major factor in winning a playoff series last season, so he has some value to a good team (and ONLY a good team).</p>

</p>

</p>

</div></p>

nope, no good team will touch his contract until his final year. all the "good" teams aren't looking to add unecessary salary</p>

</div></p>

It's not like I said some good team is looking to trade for Collins.</p>

He has some value to a good team if he is included in a trade. A lot of trades need him to make things work.</p>

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[Jizzy]

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[quote name='Belarus']</p>

Frank will veto any deal involving Collins.</p>

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Haha. They've been desperate to get rid of Collins since 2005.</p>

Last year even Frank looked like he wanted to throttle him.</p>

He's hard to trade.</p>

Buuuuuut... he was a major factor in winning a playoff series last season, so he has some value to a good team (and ONLY a good team).</p>

</p>

</p>

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nope, no good team will touch his contract until his final year. all the "good" teams aren't looking to add unecessary salary</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

It's not like I said some good team is looking to trade for Collins.</p>

He has some value to a good team if he is included in a trade. A lot of trades need him to make things work.</p>

</p>

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not happening. Indy didnt want him, LA refused to take on his contract with Jason Kidd.</p>

 

[NOMAM]

Brad Miller is a guy I think would work well with the Nets. He can shoot, rebound and is a very good passer.</p>

Magloire, Collins, and a couple of first round picks for Miller.</p>

Kidd - M.Williams - Armstrong
Carter - Wright
Jefferson - Nachbar
S.Williams - Boone - Allen
Miller - Krstic</p>

 

[ghoti]

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[quote name='ghoti']</p>

[quote name='Jizzy']</p>

[quote name='ghoti']</p>

[quote name='Belarus']</p>

Frank will veto any deal involving Collins.</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

Haha. They've been desperate to get rid of Collins since 2005.</p>

Last year even Frank looked like he wanted to throttle him.</p>

He's hard to trade.</p>

Buuuuuut... he was a major factor in winning a playoff series last season, so he has some value to a good team (and ONLY a good team).</p>

</p>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

nope, no good team will touch his contract until his final year. all the "good" teams aren't looking to add unecessary salary</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

It's not like I said some good team is looking to trade for Collins.</p>

He has some value to a good team if he is included in a trade. A lot of trades need him to make things work.</p>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

not happening. Indy didnt want him, LA refused to take on his contract with Jason Kidd.</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

I said he's hard to trade.</p>

And it's not a matter of who will "take" him. If you want to trade with the Nets, you almost always need to include him.</p>

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[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Brad Miller is a guy I think would work well with the Nets. He can shoot, rebound and is a very good passer.</p>

Magloire, Collins, and a couple of first round picks for Miller.</p>

Kidd - M.Williams - Armstrong
Carter - Wright
Jefferson - Nachbar
S.Williams - Boone - Allen
Miller - Krstic</p>

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He's also just as injury-prone as Krstic as Boone. I'm a bit iffy on trading for Miller.</p>

 

[jarkid]

The Nets have two players that are untradeble for now, It's all about Williams.</p>

Marcus Williams and Sean Williams.</p>

 

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<h3 class="outlook">Change in Team Outlook: +2.8 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and <font color="#ff0000">-0.6</font> apg.</h3>
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<td><span class="playername">Justin Williams</span>
6-9 PF / C from Wyoming
1.2 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 3.6 minutes</td>
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<td class="even"><span class="playername">Mikki Moore</span>
7-0 C from Nebraska
7.8 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.2 minutes</td>
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<td><span class="playername">Malik Allen</span>
6-10 PF from Villanova
5.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 16.6 minutes</td>
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<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jason Collins</span>
7-0 C from Stanford
1.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 18.8 minutes</td>
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<h3 class="outlook">Change in Team Outlook: <font color="#ff0000">-2.8</font> ppg, <font color="#ff0000">-2.2</font> rpg, and +0.6 apg.</h3>
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<td><span class="playername">Malik Allen</span>
6-10 PF from Villanova
5.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 16.6 minutes</td>
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<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jason Collins</span>
7-0 C from Stanford
1.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 18.8 minutes</td>
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<td><span class="playername">Justin Williams</span>
6-9 PF / C from Wyoming
1.2 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 3.6 minutes</td>
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<td class="even"><span class="playername">Mikki Moore</span>
7-0 C from Nebraska
7.8 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.2 minutes</td>
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[Jizzy]

in your dreams</p>

 

[JAMES.SLIMM]

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in your dreams</p>

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Can't blame me for trying</p>

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