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Wow: this whole article: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers

Just a minor snippet:

"West Wing aides have also worried about Trump’s public appearances, one Trump adviser told me. The adviser said aides were relieved when Trump canceled his appearance on the season premiere of 60 Minutes last month. “He’s lost a step. They don’t want him doing adversarial TV interviews,” the adviser explained."

and:

"Even before Corker’s remarks, some West Wing advisers were worried that Trump’s behavior could cause the Cabinet to take extraordinary Constitutional measures to remove him from office. Several months ago, according to two sources with knowledge of the conversation, former chief strategist Steve Bannon told Trump that the risk to his presidency wasn’t impeachment, but the 25th Amendment—the provision by which a majority of the Cabinet can vote to remove the president. When Bannon mentioned the 25th Amendment, Trump said, “What’s that?” According to a source, Bannon has told people he thinks Trump has only a 30 percent chance of making it the full term."
 
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It's real.

http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2016-donald-trump/
 


This morning I phoned my old friend, a Republican former member of Congress. Me: So what’s up? Is Corker alone, or are others also ready to call it quits with Trump? He: All I know is they’re simmering over there. Me: Flake and McCain have come pretty close. He: Yeah. Others are thinking about doing what Bob did. Sounding the alarm. They think Trump’s nuts. Unfit. Dangerous. Me: Well, they already knew that, didn’t they? He: But now it’s personal. It started with the Sessions stuff. Jeff was as loyal as they come. Trump’s crapping on him was like kicking your puppy. And then, you know, him beating up on Mitch for the Obamacare fiasco. And going after Flake and the others. Me: So they're pissed off? He: Not just that. I mean, they have thick hides. The personal stuff got them to notice all the other things. The wild stuff, like those threats to North Korea. Tillerson would leave tomorrow if he wasn’t so worried Trump would go nuclear, literally. Me: You think Trump is really thinking nuclear war? He: Who knows what’s in his head? But I can tell you this. He’s not listening to anyone. Not a soul. He’s got the nuclear codes and, well, it scares the hell out of me. It’s starting to scare all of them. That’s really why Bob spoke up. Me: So what could they do? I mean, even if the whole Republican leadership was willing to say publicly he’s unfit to serve, what then? He: Bingo! The emperor has no clothes. It’s a signal to everyone they can bail. Have to bail to save their skins. I mean, Trump could be the end of the whole goddam Republican party. Me: If he starts a nuclear war, that could be the end of everything. He: Yeah, right. So when they start bailing on him, the stage is set. Me: For what? He: Impeachment. 25th amendment. Me: You think Republicans would go that far? He: Not yet. Here’s the thing. They really want to get this tax bill through. That’s all they have going for them. They don’t want to face voters in ’18 or ’20 without something to show for it. They’re just praying Trump doesn’t do something really, really stupid before the tax bill. Me: Like a nuclear war? He: Look, all I can tell you is many of the people I talk with are getting freaked out. It’s not as if there’s any careful strategizing going on. Not like, well, do we balance the tax bill against nuclear war? No, no. They’re worried as hell. They’re also worried about Trump crazies, all the ignoramuses he’s stirred up. I mean, Roy Moore? How many more of them do you need to destroy the party? Me: So what’s gonna happen? He: You got me. I’m just glad I’m not there anymore. Trump’s not just a moron. He’s a despicable human being. And he’s getting crazier. Paranoid. Unhinged. Everyone knows it. I mean, we’re in shit up to our eyeballs with this guy.
 
Obama is the emperor who wore no clothes. His sycophants were so silly in how he could do no wrong. He didn’t do that much right.
 
Rastapopoulos said:


This morning I phoned my old friend, a Republican former member of Congress. Me: So what’s up? Is Corker alone, or are others also ready to call it quits with Trump? He: All I know is they’re simmering over there. Me: Flake and McCain have come pretty close. He: Yeah. Others are thinking about doing what Bob did. Sounding the alarm. They think Trump’s nuts. Unfit. Dangerous. Me: Well, they already knew that, didn’t they? He: But now it’s personal. It started with the Sessions stuff. Jeff was as loyal as they come. Trump’s crapping on him was like kicking your puppy. And then, you know, him beating up on Mitch for the Obamacare fiasco. And going after Flake and the others. Me: So they're pissed off? He: Not just that. I mean, they have thick hides. The personal stuff got them to notice all the other things. The wild stuff, like those threats to North Korea. Tillerson would leave tomorrow if he wasn’t so worried Trump would go nuclear, literally. Me: You think Trump is really thinking nuclear war? He: Who knows what’s in his head? But I can tell you this. He’s not listening to anyone. Not a soul. He’s got the nuclear codes and, well, it scares the hell out of me. It’s starting to scare all of them. That’s really why Bob spoke up. Me: So what could they do? I mean, even if the whole Republican leadership was willing to say publicly he’s unfit to serve, what then? He: Bingo! The emperor has no clothes. It’s a signal to everyone they can bail. Have to bail to save their skins. I mean, Trump could be the end of the whole goddam Republican party. Me: If he starts a nuclear war, that could be the end of everything. He: Yeah, right. So when they start bailing on him, the stage is set. Me: For what? He: Impeachment. 25th amendment. Me: You think Republicans would go that far? He: Not yet. Here’s the thing. They really want to get this tax bill through. That’s all they have going for them. They don’t want to face voters in ’18 or ’20 without something to show for it. They’re just praying Trump doesn’t do something really, really stupid before the tax bill. Me: Like a nuclear war? He: Look, all I can tell you is many of the people I talk with are getting freaked out. It’s not as if there’s any careful strategizing going on. Not like, well, do we balance the tax bill against nuclear war? No, no. They’re worried as hell. They’re also worried about Trump crazies, all the ignoramuses he’s stirred up. I mean, Roy Moore? How many more of them do you need to destroy the party? Me: So what’s gonna happen? He: You got me. I’m just glad I’m not there anymore. Trump’s not just a moron. He’s a despicable human being. And he’s getting crazier. Paranoid. Unhinged. Everyone knows it. I mean, we’re in shit up to our eyeballs with this guy.
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Would anyone really be that upset if he nuked CNN?
 
Last night, I talked to Mitt Romney. He doesn't like Trump. Therefore all republicans don't.
 
Is the media losing mental competence?

http://fortune.com/2017/10/12/donald-trump-stock-market-national-debt-fact-check/

President Donald Trump argued Tuesday that gains in the stock market under his watch have helped reduce the national debt, a claim that economists said was head-scratching.​

NO HE DIDN'T ARGUE THAT.

In an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Trump noted that the stock market has done well during his first year in office, then claimed that “maybe in a sense we’re reducing debt.”

“You know the last eight years, they borrowed more than it did in the whole history of our country. So they borrowed more than $10 trillion, right? And yet, we picked up 5.2 trillion just in the stock market,” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity in an interview on Tuesday. “Possibly picked up the whole thing in terms of the first nine months, in terms of value. So you could say, in one sense, we’re really increasing values. And maybe in a sense we’re reducing debt. But we’re very honored by it. And we’re very, very happy with what’s happening on Wall Street.”
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Capital gains taxes on the rising stock market prices do, in fact, offset spending that would require borrowing to pay for it. In a sense. Maybe. It remains to be seen what the capital gains amounts collected are.

The point he made is the Stock Market gained a massive $5.2T in a few months, which buys about 1/2 of whatever Obama borrowed $10T and spent.

“A rise in the stock market does absolutely nothing to reduce the national debt directly,” Kenneth Rogoff, a Harvard economics professor and former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, told Fortune. “It [stock market gains] reflects a stronger underlying economy that will eventually help reduce the national debt through higher tax revenues but there is just no connection.”
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"In a sense," there is.
 
And this guy gets it:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-is-right-to-link-national-debt-to-assets-2017-10-12

Opinion: Trump’s comments about stock gains reducing debt aren’t as crazy as they sound


Now we’ve got him.

President Donald Trump went on his second-favorite television show, “Hannity,” on Wednesday, and discussed one of his favorite topics, the stock market:

“The country, we took it over and owed over $20 trillion. As you know, the last eight years, they borrowed more than it did in the whole history of our country. So they borrowed more than $10 trillion, right? And yet, we picked up $5.2 trillion just in the stock market. Possibly picked up the whole thing in the first nine months, in terms of value. So you could say, in one sense, we’re really increasing values. And maybe in a sense we’re reducing debt. But we’re very honored by it.”

What a maroon!

Except ... it’s not an entirely crazy way to look at the issue.

Yes, the debt burden, to the extent that it actually matters, is spread across every taxpayer, while stocks are not widely held and, in fact, are concentrated among the rich.


And stock-market gains are on paper (though one can borrow against them without selling). Plus U.S.-traded stocks are not 100% owned by Americans.

Still, to a degree, the ability to service the debt has improved because of the stock market’s rise. Some portion of that $5 trillion or so will make it into the hands of Americans, who will both increase economic activity as well as ultimately pay taxes on it to Uncle Sam.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I don't mean that metaphorically. I mean that literally. Some people (many!) have pointed out that if you look at transcripts from interviews of him like ten years ago, it's night and day to what he's like now. And one thing they've pointed out is that he tends to say "out loud" things that you're not supposed to, that may be the REASON why you're where you are doing what you're doing, but not the reason you're supposed to let the public know. Examples:



I mean... did you watch the interview with ABC News last night? He did not look like a well man. And even if he still has the mannerisms and tone of a salesman that he always had (the saying "believe me" a million times), it gets even worse if you look at transcripts of what he's saying. They really do look like the ramblings of someone in a nursing home.


Also, he has these obsessions that he keeps circling back to. I have old relatives and they do the same. They'll call up and ask you something and you'll say "no, that was last week" or "no, because...." and they'll say oh, okay. Then the next day it's back and they're calling with the same question. Same with his crazy "illegals" talk.

Now, I know Sly is going to say "crazy like a fox!" because this takes up airtime and in the meantime, POW, the New Deal has been totally demolished. Maybe. Certainly his aides have figured out they can ride this wave to their own advantage (which is scary, because he's doing the bidding of Steve Bannon and that guy straight from central casting call for "Evil Slimebag", Jason Miller,
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who keep filling his speeches with Nazi rhetoric (and Bane quotes)) but I think it's EVEN MORE WORRYING THAN THAT.
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>Its crazy. Typically when a politician wins he goes on. He can't let it go!.
 
Denny Crane said:
Is the media losing mental competence?

http://fortune.com/2017/10/12/donald-trump-stock-market-national-debt-fact-check/

President Donald Trump argued Tuesday that gains in the stock market under his watch have helped reduce the national debt, a claim that economists said was head-scratching.​

NO HE DIDN'T ARGUE THAT.

In an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Trump noted that the stock market has done well during his first year in office, then claimed that “maybe in a sense we’re reducing debt.”

“You know the last eight years, they borrowed more than it did in the whole history of our country. So they borrowed more than $10 trillion, right? And yet, we picked up 5.2 trillion just in the stock market,” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity in an interview on Tuesday. “Possibly picked up the whole thing in terms of the first nine months, in terms of value. So you could say, in one sense, we’re really increasing values. And maybe in a sense we’re reducing debt. But we’re very honored by it. And we’re very, very happy with what’s happening on Wall Street.”
​
Capital gains taxes on the rising stock market prices do, in fact, offset spending that would require borrowing to pay for it. In a sense. Maybe. It remains to be seen what the capital gains amounts collected are.

The point he made is the Stock Market gained a massive $5.2T in a few months, which buys about 1/2 of whatever Obama borrowed $10T and spent.

“A rise in the stock market does absolutely nothing to reduce the national debt directly,” Kenneth Rogoff, a Harvard economics professor and former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, told Fortune. “It [stock market gains] reflects a stronger underlying economy that will eventually help reduce the national debt through higher tax revenues but there is just no connection.”
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"In a sense," there is.
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So he essentially claimed we're reducing debt via the stock market.
 
Bill Clinton's pollster.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/355066-why-the-polls-are-still-wrong

Why the polls are still wrong

The polls that failed to detect the full strength of President Trump on Election Day continue to underestimate the president’s support for the job he is doing, paying way too much attention to the Twitter wars and ignoring the public support for many of the actions is undertaking.

This can create some serious misjudgments by organizations like the NFL and some Republican senators, who find out later that they buck the president only to their own detriment. And nothing was more devastating to Democrats than believing the election was over when it wasn’t.

Polls show the president’s approval rating all over the lot. An Associated Press poll put it at 32 percent and suggests that only 24 percent see the country as going in the right direction. This strains credulity given what happened in the special elections against the Democrats.

... Another group of polls has Trump’s approval in the low 40s, and Harvard-Harris Poll, which eliminates all undecideds, has it at 45 percent, similar to Rasmussen.

Generally, the president does best with voters polled online, as opposed to with live operators. He got 46 percent of the electorate in the election and little has changed since then as 90 percent of his voters support him, unchanged over many months.

When we break down his approval ratings by specific areas, we get a more complex picture of his image. The president gets 65 percent approval for hurricane response and 53 percent approval for the economy and fighting terrorism. He gets his lowest marks for the way he is administering the government. And he is a divider when people want a uniter.

No question that 68 percent or more say they would like to see Trump stop tweeting, but is measuring that really reflective of his underlying political power compared to what’s happening in the economy? In the end, will voters cast ballots on tweets or jobs?

We see the same dynamic being played out over and over again: The president grabs the spotlight with strong statements (typically on Twitter) of his policies, for which he is savaged as over the top on social and mainstream media. Then, over time, he often wins the underlying policy argument. You can see how this played out on the economy and taxes, the national anthem, attacks on bad trade deals and calls for more border controls.

Remember, Americans liked President Obama for his way with words and his calm leadership style. They just opposed many of his policies, so Obama’s numbers gave a false sense of approval. Trump is the mirror opposite. People are put on edge by his words while favoring a lot of the positions he is taking on issues.

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he failure to understand the 2016 election was in large measure not a failure of the final polls, many of which showed a close race, but a failure to understand the powerful storyline of Trump’s appeal with his respect for cops and the military, taking a more aggressive position against our enemies, and pushing for tax and health-care reform. His style is not what won him the presidency. It was, remarkably, his substance.

I, frankly, didn’t at the time see his rise in the Republican primary as realistic. I don’t believe he has advanced his coalition from Election Day, and rank-and-file Democratic opposition has hardened. But he hasn’t lost his support either, and taking on “The Swamp” only empowers him further.

It is by watching the underlying public sentiment of what he is doing, and not his methods, that you see how polling better watch out here, as reality versus research will again be tested, and reality always wins.

Mark Penn is co-director of the Harvard-Harris Poll and was a pollster for Bill Clinton during six years of his presidency.
 
The president is a fucking idiot....

PRESIDENT TRUMP DOESN’T KNOW HE’S THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS

Is President Donald Trump aware residents of the U.S. Virgin Islands are, in fact, Americans? It's unclear.

In a speech Friday, Trump said he'd recently "met with the president of the Virgin Islands" to discuss the recent hurricanes that have devastated Texas, Florida, Puerto Rico and the island.

But Trump could not have spoken to the "president of the Virgin Islands" because, of course, he is the president of the U.S. Virgin Islands, whose residents are U.S. citizens.


Perhaps Trump was referring to the governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands, Kenneth Mapp, with whom the president met in early October.

The U.S. Virgin Islands government reluctantly responded to Trump's gaffe.

“I would not want to in any way involve the governor of the Virgin Islands in any national dispute in the media about what the president knows about the relationship between the United States and the U.S. Virgin Islands,” Sam Topp, deputy communications director for Governor Mapp, tells Newsweek.

"It doesn't serve our purpose to participate in the national hoopla over whether Donald Trump is making competent comments or not. Just look at the documents that govern the relationship [between the United States and the U.S. Virgin Islands], and you can determine how relevant or irrelevant, or advised or ill-advised, his comments were. There’s no president of the United States other than the president of the United States," Topp adds.




Trump could arguably benefit a great deal from a lesson in the structure of the U.S. government (and perhaps a geography refresher).

The president also revealed that he doesn't really know the location of Puerto Rico, describing it in a talk with reporters as "an island sitting in the middle of an ocean — and it's a big ocean, a really, really big ocean."

Trump was correct that the Atlantic Ocean is a thing and it is quite large, but Puerto Rico is by no means "in the middle" of it. Actually, the Atlantic Ocean doesn't technically begin until the "eastern edge" of the Caribbean, which is roughly 550 miles east of Puerto Rico, according to the International Hydrographic Organization borders universally accepted.

Puerto Rico is in the Caribbean Sea, not the ocean.

The president has been heavily criticized for how he's handled the recovery effort in Puerto Rico, and some feel he's not granted nearly enough attention to the U.S. Virgin Islands.

On Thursday, Trump tweeted, "We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in [Puerto Rico] forever!"

Puerto Ricans and Democrats in Congress slammed the president's comments.

“It is not that you do not get it; you are incapable of fulfilling the moral imperative to help the people of PR. Shame on you!" Carmen Yulín Cruz, the mayor of San Juan, wrote on Twitter.

New York Representative Nydia Velazquez added in a statement that Trump's comments "called into question his ability to lead" and she called on him to honor his "responsibility for our fellow citizens in Puerto Rico."


 
^^^ the ridiculous lengths you go to.
 
I'm going to declare myself the president of the Virgin Islands and show up to the White House for a meeting with Trump.
 
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