Politics It's gonna get awful quiet in here by the far Right in two weeks

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
MickZagger said:
Will Biden show decency and pardon him?
Click to expand...
Probably...it's what dignitaries would do with ex presidents...even ones they despised..he would have been wise to plea bargain his debts away and resign before the election letting Pence pardon him..giving him time to sell some properties and get on his feet again.
 
Last edited:
Lanny said:
His chances were virtually nil months ago and they have gotten slimmer and slimmer ever since. No, he has zero chance and will lose in a landslide.
Click to expand...
Auditioning for a job at CNN?
 
yankeesince59 said:
I think it's wrong for Trump haters to assume that the very large early turnout is a good sign for Biden.

...because IMO, there are a lot of "closet" Trump fans lurking in the shadows.



...and Lanny, with all due respect, we don't really have many "facts" at this point, and won't till after the election...polls aren't "facts".
Click to expand...
Polls showed Hillary would win nationally and she did, by 4 million votes. She’s not President because she lost the electoral college due to a tiny percentage of voters in PA, Wisconsin, and MI. Biden is winning those states this time around.
 
I aint believing anything until they announce Biden as the winner.

Until then, I dont know what that cheating fuck in the white house is gonna try to do.

I did my part. I voted.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Polls showed Hillary would win nationally and she did, by 4 million votes. She’s not President because she lost the electoral college due to a tiny percentage of voters in PA, Wisconsin, and MI. Biden is winning those states this time around.
Click to expand...

Not sure how that correlates to my post...and fwiw, Hillary didn't win by 4,000,000 vote, she won by 2,868,686 votes.

Maybe I missed something...unless you're going by the "polls" (which are not always accurate) that say Biden is winning certain states...I hope you're right but again, we won't know for sure till "AFTER the election".
 
Last edited:
Not popping any champagne corks yet but Biden has the easier path. Trump won the three upper midwest states, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, by less than a percentage. Biden leads in all three. If he wins them, he's in. If he wins Florida he only needs one of the three. If he wins Florida, Arizona, and North Carolina or Georgia, he's in. Since Biden can reliably count on three high population states, New York, California, Illinois, but Trump has to have Florida and even Texas is looking like toss up.

Trump desperately wants someone to do what Comey did four years ago when, 11 days before election, he announced new investigation of Hillary Clinton's email while keeping silent about investigation into Trump's Russia ties. That pushed undecided voters to Trump, soft Clinton supporters just didn't vote at all.
 
Last edited:
IMO, in 2016 too many were polarized by Clinton but luckily for us, Trump is not running against Clinton this time around. I think a lot of voters thought "I can't stand Hillary so I'll vote for Trump, because how bad could he be?"..

...well 4 years later we now know the answer to that question.
 
yankeesince59 said:
I think it's wrong for Trump haters to assume that the very large early turnout is a good sign for Biden.

...because IMO, there are a lot of "closet" Trump fans lurking in the shadows.



...and Lanny, with all due respect, we don't really have many "facts" at this point, and won't till after the election...polls aren't "facts".
Click to expand...
Polls are facts. The data is a fact in that you can't deny the data nor the probability as a result.
I only say this because see it as a done deal and the only thing remaining to be done is to make it more of a landslide so there's zero basis for overturning the election by the Supreme Court. I think we're gonna win by between 10 and 20 Million votes so let's make it a 15 Million vote margin of victory for Biden/Harris. Pour on the coal.
Georgia is now a tossup state, hallelujah.
 
Strenuus said:
I aint believing anything until they announce Biden as the winner.

Until then, I dont know what that cheating fuck in the white house is gonna try to do.

I did my part. I voted.
Click to expand...
I voted as soon as my ballot arrived in my mail box. Placed our ballots in the drop box that day.
 
I seem to remember the right wing contingency around here being pretty loud during the Obama 8 years...I don't expect them to be quiet for a Biden presidency either...they're just not quiet in general....part of the quiet illusion is that banned members were usually pretty loud ...
 
riverman said:
I seem to remember the right wing contingency around here being pretty loud during the Obama 8 years...I don't expect them to be quiet for a Biden presidency either...they're just not quiet in general....part of the quiet illusion is that banned members were usually pretty loud ...
Click to expand...
The difference is all their loud mouthed talk about how popular Trump is and how he's gonna win reelection vs the absolute wipe out they're facing. That includes idiotic boasting about how Republicans are gonna keep the Senate and take back the House. No, there's gonna be shame o'plenty after this election by the Trump cult.
 
Tyrant of Ants said:
No. Though I do think the EC is an antiquated system that needs to go.
Click to expand...

This I disagree with. The electoral votes are simply from those we chose to be our regional leaders. If we don't like how the electoral votes go, then chose different leaders. I don't trust the masses to pick their nose correctly, let alone be informed enough without personally biased influence, to make a quality decision alone for our president.

This is what a republic is all about. We vote in representatives who make decisions for us.

If one wants to get rid of the electorate, then we would need to change from a republic to a democracy. I, for on, like the stopping points to help filter out idiots.
 
Orion Bailey said:
This I disagree with. The electoral votes are simply from those we chose to be our regional leaders. If we don't like how the electoral votes go, then chose different leaders. I don't trust the masses to pick their nose correctly, let alone be informed enough without personally biased influence, to make a quality decision alone for our president.

This is what a republic is all about. We vote in representatives who make decisions for us.

If one wants to get rid of the electorate, then we would need to change from a republic to a democracy. I, for on, like the stopping points to help filter out idiots.
Click to expand...

The electoral college is NOT your elected representatives.

barfo
 
barfo said:
The electoral college is NOT your elected representatives.

barfo
Click to expand...

Yeah, I'm speaking on two things and it can seem mixed up. I know our senate is not the electoral college, but they are still chosen, but not by the masses, and that's my point. I don't want any popular vote being the end all to the President.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Yeah, I'm speaking on two things and it can seem mixed up. I know our senate is not the electoral college, but they are still chosen, but not by the masses, and that's my point. I don't want any popular vote being the end all to the President.
Click to expand...
So you are not in favor of allowing the voices of American citizens to decide who leads them. Good to know. And who is for freedom of choice and against the "nanny state" again?
 
Wouldn't it take 2/3rds of the states to agree to eliminate the EC? I don't think that will be happening anytime soon.
 
theprunetang said:
So you are not in favor of allowing the voices of American citizens to decide who leads them. Good to know. And who is for freedom of choice and against the "nanny state" again?
Click to expand...

Not on the national level. The average citizen, in my opinion, is not informed enough to know all the details and nuances to determine our Presidency. Just look at the last year of conflicts to know that most people care more about superficiality than substance.

Meaning, more people seem to care more about Trump grabbing a pussy than his economic stances. We are a snowflake society just looking for the next thing to bitch about and I don't want these bitchers picking our national leaders who deal in foreign relations, of which most citizens are also not very informed about.

I'm okay with the public electing local officials who can be directly held responsible by communities, who then determine our national leaders.

More so than ever I don't want a popular vote determining an outcome because we are also sheep led by biased and fake news.

But you can insinuate i'm against freedom of choice if you like. Ill just know your assumption is inaccurate and not based on a full and completely informed opinion.


Basically the typical. Read one thing and just paint a picture. There are sooo many details about elections and our leaders. I say i'm not for one thing doesn't mean i'm saying i'm for something else.

Another typical behavior by the average person that is foundationally incorrect. But happens all the time.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top