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9 games, no presure & stats really shouldn't matter, And yes I'm trying to convince myself.

Through today's game.......

Drew 1-11
Gregorius 1-12
Teixeira 3-12
Gardner 2-12
Ellsbury 2-15
Beltran 0-7
Headley 4-13
McCann 2-8
A-Rod 4-9

But fear not, there's hope yet..................

Pirela 6-13
Refsnyder 5-11
Bird 5-10
 
...they can go ahead and start printing the PS tickets.
 
I mean so far A-Rod is the best regular on the team & he hasn't played in over a year. HOLY SHIT!
 
Through spring and into the first week of May we'll see 210 hitters hitting 375 with 4 or 5 home runs, the regular boppers will hit 205 and strike out in twos and threes. The good pitchers won't hit a bull in the ass with a shovel while newbies will throw gas. Things then go in to bloom in May and the pennant chat will be gone by the June Swoon. I don notice probably as the rest of you that while we are concerned about our team there are folks from other teams getting bit by the injury bippy. I'd like to see a couple of those kids step up and force Cashmans hand to get rid of people like Drew for starters.
 
As long as he's healthy Arod clearly still play the game. Whether or not he can still generate any power is the real question.
 
Through spring and into the first week of May we'll see 210 hitters hitting 375 with 4 or 5 home runs, the regular boppers will hit 205 and strike out in twos and threes. The good pitchers won't hit a bull in the ass with a shovel while newbies will throw gas. Things then go in to bloom in May and the pennant chat will be gone by the June Swoon. I don notice probably as the rest of you that while we are concerned about our team there are folks from other teams getting bit by the injury bippy. hand to get rid of people like Drew for startersI'd like to see a couple of those kids step up and force Cashmans.
As long as he's healthy Arod clearly still play the game. Whether or not he can still generate any power is the real question.


Well he did have that BOOMING!............bloop double the other day.
 
...he's not exactly hitting rockets...and probably won't.

...and with 2 bad hips I don't think he'll able to start his swing with his lower body and likely won't generate much power.
 
If he hits a dozen HRs on a full season I'll be surprised.
 
Through spring and into the first week of May we'll see 210 hitters hitting 375 with 4 or 5 home runs, the regular boppers will hit 205 and strike out in twos and threes. The good pitchers won't hit a bull in the ass with a shovel while newbies will throw gas. Things then go in to bloom in May and the pennant chat will be gone by the June Swoon. I don notice probably as the rest of you that while we are concerned about our team there are folks from other teams getting bit by the injury bippy. I'd like to see a couple of those kids step up and force Cashmans hand to get rid of people like Drew for starters.

^^^... to what Michael said...!!
 
...he's not exactly hitting rockets...and probably won't.

...and with 2 bad hips I don't think he'll able to start his swing with his lower body and likely won't generate much power.

^^^... Yep, if I were a betting man, I'd not bet against your take 59....!!!
 
The grind of ST, tho' nothing major, or is it? It well could be demanding enough to sideline #13, by Opening Day. Let alone the thought of a full season; will wear A-Roid out by the start of the season..... now that's an oxymoron, not the sentence the Asshole wearing #13....

If not, he won't make it to the A.S. break, if he makes it out of ST with both hips intact....

I would take any one's stats in ST, with a grain of salt. Recall Andy Phillips .400 B'Avg performance in 06, which won him the 1st base job over Giambi......check the stats, Andy sucked the rest of the season, an approx .240 B'Avg; scoring and RBI's with a paltry end sum of, less than 30 times.

ST is to work the arms loose, get the bugs out of all facets of the game. Basically blow out the cobwebs and rust. If Alex looks halfway decent in ST, that won't surprise me, a helluva lot of rookies look like the next coming of Micky Mantle in ST, then fall on their faces, once the real games that count begin. Alex will be fit this mold. IMO....
 
...he's not exactly hitting rockets...and probably won't.

...and with 2 bad hips I don't think he'll able to start his swing with his lower body and likely won't generate much power.


But he has hit two clean line drive singles to left field.
He has stated (Meridith) he's not concerned yet with his lateral movement defensively and just wants to make the routine plays, spoken like a guy/veteran who realizes his bat is what will (hopefully) be the reason he makes it into the lineup (primarily as a DH) and help this team. He knows exactly what the score is.
 
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As long as he's healthy Arod clearly still play the game. Whether or not he can still generate any power is the real question.

Agree - there was NEVER a question that this guy isn't a gamer AND has played through pain ( when he was being ridiculed for his offensive slack off)....I think he has been more embarrassed with his on field performance (recent history) than anything else because above all, he has as much pride and
competiveness as anybody else on this Yankee team and IMO the only reason why he may make HIS decision to pack it in is if his body just can't withstand the everyday rigors, otherwise, IMO, he will provide improved production from one of those black holes from the offense of the 2014 team -- the DH position.
 
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We will see, but I really doubt it, you can't gauge any players performance by ST alone.....

not until he's seen live game pitching, real games, not ST games.....
 


Not quite sure what is so funny about a 39 year old who has had a year rest who the LAST time he played (2013) albeit in just 44 games managed to put up a higher OPS than ANY Yankee from last year's team.
I think its safe to say he AND the Yankees probably aren't expecting more than 350 or so ABs from him (primarily DHs) with 15(?)-or more HRs......so, no offensive intended but, what the heck do you find so funny. Wait, here's another funny tidbit for you, he hit 7 HRs in 156 ABs the last time he was in iniform for the Yanks......lol
 
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...what's funny is that you actually think ARod has been hitting the ball hard.

...didn't see his other LF hit but the first one was anything but a rocket...it was a low flare that barely made the OF grass.
 
9 games, no presure & stats really shouldn't matter, And yes I'm trying to convince myself.

Through today's game.......

Drew 1-11
Gregorius 1-12
Teixeira 3-12
Gardner 2-12
Ellsbury 2-15
Beltran 0-7
Headley 4-13
McCann 2-8
A-Rod 4-9

But fear not, there's hope yet..................

Pirela 6-13
Refsnyder 5-11
Bird 5-10

And what is so inconsequential about Headley's 4-13 and Arod's 4-9 which includes a HR, oh, but I forgot......one of those hits was a bloop double which of course isn't so bad because you do need legs to run to 2nd base and considering he should be crumbling and falling apart any day now,....... lol
 
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By the way fellas, I also happen to think Prado is a good player but I just hope you aren't/weren't expecting him to continue his pace of 133 ABs he had with the Yanks last year because in case you weren't counting, that would give him about 28 HRs and a .316 BA over a full season (532 ABs?).
But I'm sure this just isn't a case of being obsesssed with finding fault with Cashman...
......nah, of course not.

Headley had 191 ABs for the Yanks, batted .262 compared with his .265 career avg,
Has a career .347 OBP, his Yankee ops was 12 pts higher than his career .756 and his slg% was 11 pts higher than his career number.....and at last check, his career OPS is over .800 playing away from his former SD ballpark. No, he's not going to be confused with Mike Schmidt but he'll provide about 9-13 HRS and it could/SHOULD go UP playing his home games at Yankee Stadium......last but not least, he is A very goood established defensive 3b.
Let it go guys....let it go....if the man stays healthy and we can say that about ANY player including a good young pitcher named Stroman for Toronto, I think the Yanks could very well have a good 3b approaching his last BEST years....4 yr deal sounds about right.

2b will take care of itself for the Yanks as they have at least one if not two (Refsnyder,Pirela(?)) good young players/hitters vying for the spot and I'f not, they will see action sometime this season and if you think Drew is really a "167 hitter".....than the youngsters show up sooner.....and the Yanks also get younger in the process.

Umm, Drew is signed for ONE year, not 3 or 4....Yanks could/ would easily release him later in the season......are "we" paying attention, or not?
 
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How many 89mph 3-1 FB out over the plate is he gonna see in a full season? Cervelli crushed those too.
 
9 games, no presure & stats really shouldn't matter, And yes I'm trying to convince myself.

Through today's game.......

Drew 1-11
Gregorius 1-12
Teixeira 3-12
Gardner 2-12
Ellsbury 2-15
Beltran 0-7
Headley 4-13
McCann 2-8
A-Rod 4-9

But fear not, there's hope yet..................

Pirela 6-13
Refsnyder 5-11
Bird 5-10
And I doubt we'll actually give the kids a chance... Banging my head here
 
You were right Ron.


...yup...nailed it, didn't I?

...love the inane reference to ARod running ability ("you do need legs to run to 2nd base")... ARod's bloop double was a ground rule double which had barely got over the 1Bman's head, and barely landed fair, and had side spin on it and bounced into the seats....speed was not required...lmao.

...also love how he claims Prado's stats with the Yanx last year should not perceived to be an indicator of what he may be able to do with the Marlins this year, but somehow Headley's small sample size from last year is used an indicator of what he could/should do this year....how's that work?

..."statistical gymnastics"...lol.
 
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How many 89mph 3-1 FB out over the plate is he gonna see in a full season? Cervelli crushed those too.

How many 89mph 3-1 FB fastballs out over the plate did we see last year which were popped up to shallow CF?
You remember don't you? 2014, The year which was one of the more embarrassing in Yankee team batting history. lol
 
...yup...nailed it, didn't I?

...love the inane reference to ARod running ability ("you do need legs to run to 2nd base")... ARod's bloop double was a ground rule double which had barely got over the 1Bman's head, and barely landed fair, and had side spin on it and bounced into the seats....speed was not required...lmao.

...also love how he claims Prado's stats with the Yanx last year should not perceived to be an indicator of what he may be able to do with the Marlins this year, but somehow Headley's small sample size from last year is used an indicator of what he could/should do this year....how's that work?

..."statistical gymnastics"...lol.

Back to your old imaginary word games again huh? Talk about gymnastics....lmao.
I never mentioned what Prado may or may not do with the MARLINS.
I merely stated his ACTUAL numbers (133 abs) as a Yankee...7 HRs .316 BA and raised the question if some of you expected him to continue that pace which would be estimated according to simple math (about 532abs) over the course of a full season would give him 28 HRs with a .316 BA.......is THAT what you were expecting from him if he stayed a Yankee (blame Cashman lol) ? Here are a couple of more FACTS, he's never hit more than 15 HRs in a season and he needed 599abs to do it....next highest was 14 HRs with 609 abs.

Headley on the other hand showed a more realistic consistent performance compared with his career numbers with some modest decent improvement amoung a couple of his other numbers and I think he's the better 3b. I think IMO he'll give the Yanks just what they expect, .260-.265 BA, 340-.350 OBP, mid-high 700 OPS, good possibility of raising his HR totals playing his home games in a good hitters park (especially from the left side).

As I also said, I think 2b will take care of itself with possibly one of the Yankees' young players (Refsnyder,Pirela) taking the position if Drew doesn't pan out......and I know Drew is a "question mark" but you even said maybe he was hurt last year by holding out and missing ST and could do better- if not, the Yanks will probably use him as a backup or possibly release him later in the season when he'll be owed maybe 2-2.5 mil.

We'll see how Headley does as the Yankee 3b and you can keep us posted on Prado's Marlins' career.

Stop acting like a crybaby. Maybe you need to call in your re-enforcements. lol
 
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Back to your old imaginary word games again huh? Talk about gymnastics....lmao.
I never mentioned what Prado may or may not do with the MARLINS.
I merely stated his ACTUAL numbers (133 abs) as a Yankee...7 HRs .316 BA and raised the question if some of you expected him to continue that pace which would be estimated according to simple math (about 532abs) over the course of a full season would give him 28 HRs with a .316 BA.......is THAT what you were expecting from him if he stayed a Yankee (blame Cashman lol) ? Here are a couple of more FACTS, he's never hit more than 15 HRs in a season and he needed 599abs to do it....next highest was 14 HRs with 609 abs.


...uhhh, yes, you did...you said it/implied it. You mentioned Prado's stats and advised us not to expect those kinds of numbers over a full year...and then proceeded in the next sentence to point to Headley's stats as if they were a barometer of what to expect this year.

...nothing "imaginary" about wait I posted...and no word games either.


Headley on the other hand showed a more realistic consistent performance compared with his career numbers with some modest decent improvement amoung a couple of his other numbers and I think he's the better 3b. I think IMO he'll give the Yanks just what they expect, .260-.265 BA, 340-.350 OBP, mid-high OPS, good possibility of raising his HR totals playing his home games in a good hitters park (especially from the left side).

...Headley has been anything but "consistent"...he's been up and down his whole mediocre career and he hasn't batted over .250 since 2012...but all you can see is his handful of ABs as a Yankee last year....and yeah, all things considered, I'd rather have Prado's glove and bat at 3B than Headley's.

As I also said, I think 2b will take care of itself with possibly one of the Yankees' young players (Refsnyder,Pirela) taking the position if Drew doesn't pan out......and I know Drew is a "question mark" but you even said maybe he was hurt last year by holding out and missing ST and could do better- if not, the Yanks will probably use him as a backup or possibly release him later in the season when he'll be ohwed maybe 2-2.5 mil.

We'll see how Headley does as the Yankee 3b and you can keep us posted on Prado's Marlins' career.

Stop acting like a crybaby. Maybe you need to call in your re-enforcements. lol

..."crybaby"?...really?..."reinforcements"?...really? ...what exactly am I "crying" about...I'm simply presenting facts ...and no assistance needed here, Beevis. I've juggled multiple asshats many times....btw, would you care to discuss ARod busting his ass and displaying his running ability on that bloop ground rule double again?
 
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