It's Over.....Romney Has This One In The Bag...

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He has big, bad, Billy (i.e. God) in his corner. (winky duly attached: ;) )

Graham told Romney: “I’ll do all I can to help you. And you can quote me on that.”

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...do-all-i-can-to-help-you/?wprss=rss_campaigns

ASHEVILLE, N.C. — Mitt Romney asked the Rev. Billy Graham for his prayers Thursday and the ailing evangelist came through by praying with the Republican presidential candidate and offering his support.

The 30-minute meeting between the world-renowned Christian leader and Romney could provide the former governor with a major boost among evangelical Christians skeptical of supporting the first Mormon nominated for president.
Graham, 93, and Romney prayed at the end of their previously unannounced meeting held at Graham’s estate in Montreat, which is nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains 18 miles east of Asheville. Graham’s son, Franklin Graham, joined the meeting. It was the first time that Romney had met the elder Graham, but he first met Franklin Graham in 2006.

Graham, who has led religious revivals for more than 50 years around the world — and often during prime-time television specials — has met with every U.S. president since Harry Truman. He was especially close with Dwight D. Eisenhower and Richard M. Nixon, who attended a Graham-led revival in Tennessee in 1970. Most recently, President Obama met with Graham at his Montreat home in 2010.
During Thursday’s meeting, campaign aides said that Graham told Romney that he considered his father, George Romney, a friend. He also recalled that he held his first crusade in Grand Rapids Michigan in 1947 — the same year that the former governor was born.

The meeting was closed to reporters, but photographers and television producers were permitted to record its final moments. As they entered, Romney appeared to be discussing the death of his father, George Romney.

“He was on the treadmill one morning at age 88 and he’s jogging on the treadmill and his irregular heartbeat caused him to faint and there was no one there to revive him and so he passed away,” Romney told Graham, according to a transcript of the exchange provided by NBC News.

“My mom lived for another year after that, and then she followed him,” Romney added, according to the NBC transcript. “She had a stroke. And she followed him. But dad was active and working on volunteerism to the very end of his life. Every day. Trying to encourage more people to get involved with volunteering here in this country and around the world. He was tireless on the volunteer effort.”
Graham then asked Romney what he could do to help.

“Prayer is the most helpful thing you can do for me,” Romney said. “And what you’re planning, what your son has shown me is going to be very very helpful. And I appreciate that. Its going to be terrific.”

Graham, Franklin Graham and Romney then prayed and as the meeting ended, campaign aides said that Graham told Romney: “I’ll do all I can to help you. And you can quote me on that.”
 
There was little chance the evangelicals were voting for Obama this time anyway, but every little bit helps, I suppose.
 
There was little chance the evangelicals were voting for Obama this time anyway, but every little bit helps, I suppose.

hmm I caught a thing that stated that we are at an historic low for those that claim to be christian at 39%, there were like 20 some percent that had slid to somewhere in the mid ground between practicing to athiest that considered them selves identifying independent, so may help a bit ?
 
Billy Graham is still alive?
 
hmm I caught a thing that stated that we are at an historic low for those that claim to be christian at 39%, there were like 20 some percent that had slid to somewhere in the mid ground between practicing to athiest that considered them selves identifying independent, so may help a bit ?

I don't know where you heard these stats, but they're way off. According to a Pew survey, 78.4% of adult Americans identify themselves as Christian. Atheists only account for 1.6%, with another 2.4% saying they're agnostic. Of course, there are 12% who say they're "nothing in particular" when it comes to religion. http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
 
Not sure what Billy Graham has to do with it, but barring a major collapse, Romney does have this one in the bag.

Obama is still running around talking about Big Bird, as if anybody cares.
 
Billy Graham is still alive?

When he dies, I'm sure you'll hear about it. Wait, I forgot! You live under a rock!

Never mind.


;)
 
Billy's okay with Mormonism because he went to high school with Joseph Smith.
 
When he dies, I'm sure you'll hear about it. Wait, I forgot! You live under a rock!

Never mind.


;)

jokes aside, I seriously thought he was dead.

But thats mostly because I just don't give a crap about religious figureheads (good or bad)
 
jokes aside, I seriously thought he was dead.

But thats mostly because I just don't give a crap about religious figureheads (good or bad)

I kinda figured. :) I will tell you, though, when Graham does finally die....it will be an international event. You'll hear about it, I'm pretty certain of that. Billy has bent the ears of probably the past 5 or 6 Presidents......not to mention everything else he's accomplished in his heralded career/ministry.

EDIT:

On the Presidents thingy.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham#Pastor_to_presidents
 
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Uh oh...

Graham became a regular visitor during the tenure of Dwight D. Eisenhower. He purportedly urged him to intervene with federal troops in the case of the Little Rock Nine to gain admission of black students to public schools.[7] At that time he met and would become close friends with Vice President Richard Nixon.[17] After a special law was passed in 1952, Graham conducted the first religious service on the steps of the Capitol building.[7] Eisenhower asked for Graham while on his deathbed.[39]

The preacher enjoyed a friendship with Nixon. He supported him over John F. Kennedy in the 1960 presidential election.[7]
 
Why, that two-timing!!!!! :MARIS61:

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He, like any religious figure who is really about religion and not politics, needs to be supportive of whoever candidate is near him.
 
Fuck. abm curse. Damn you

{Poasted via palm pilot}
 
All jokes aside, I really don't see how Romney wins this, and I'm not a supporter of Obama. I just don't think Romney is likeable.
 
All jokes aside, I really don't see how Romney wins this, and I'm not a supporter of Obama. I just don't think Romney is likeable.

Is likability really the metric by which you think we select a President?
 
I don't know where you heard these stats, but they're way off. According to a Pew survey, 78.4% of adult Americans identify themselves as Christian. Atheists only account for 1.6%, with another 2.4% saying they're agnostic. Of course, there are 12% who say they're "nothing in particular" when it comes to religion. http://religions.pewforum.org/reports

I think he's referring to this: http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/nones-on-the-rise.aspx

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Your 78% number is from 2007. It's now at 73% (and dropping).

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Billy Graham matters, but not as much as he used to. The majority of Americans are no longer Protestant, which is kind of stunning to think about. No way would Graham have endorsed a Mormon 15 years ago.
 
He, like any religious figure who is really about religion and not politics, needs to be supportive of whoever candidate is near him.

But didn't Jesus say something about render unto Ceasar?

Maybe he should just, you know, feed the hungry? There is a lot in the bible about that. Abortion, however, is not mentioned.
 
All jokes aside, I really don't see how Romney wins this, and I'm not a supporter of Obama. I just don't think Romney is likeable.

Did you watch the first debate . . . I thought Mitt came across personal and competent.

At this point it is Ryan who concerns me more than Romeny, but he is just the VP and shouldn't control who to vote for.

It's still Obama's election to lose . . . but another debate performance like last and he may just lose this election.
 
I think it is very important that citizens like the person who will end up being the face of our nation.

downside of that is what we now have

the country loved the ideas of hope and change, the people and the press rallied behind the man, they more than liked him to a fault. now they can not admit his lack of ability to follow through and lead....

rather have a guy that I may not "like", but takes the high road and leads, for the betterment of the country.

see John Adams, Teddy R, FDR, Grant, and the most well known for doing this, Abe
 
downside of that is what we now have

the country loved the ideas of hope and change, the people and the press rallied behind the man, they more than liked him to a fault. now they can not admit his lack of ability to follow through and lead....

rather have a guy that I may not "like", but takes the high road and leads, for the betterment of the country.

see John Adams, Teddy R, FDR, Grant, and the most well known for doing this, Abe

The assumption your making is that Romney is someone who takes the high road and leads. I can see him being a leader . . . not convinced on the high road thing.

Not much of a history buff so I just go off of what I have experienced. I travel alot and can tell you I was embarrassed to have Bush as president the second term. I don't know if he has done worse or better than Obama, but I sure enjoy traveling and discussing politics aborad more with Obama as president. I don't want to go through another Bush like era.

Everyone has their own reasons to vote . . . a big criteria for me is I have to like who the president is. Having said all that, Romney has stemmed my fears that he will be an embarrassing president.

Who will be better for the country (ecoonomically, security, foreign policy) . . . that is all above my head and luckily doesn't matter I don't know since Oregon is a lock for Obama.
 
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