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Watch Facebook fall! It's their own fault. They blew it!
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/30/fac...pe-death-spiral-as-users-flee-sales-drop.html

A year ago, before Facebook had turned Meta, the social media company was sporting a market cap of $1 trillion, putting it in rarefied territory with a handful of U.S. technology giants.

Today the view looks much different. Meta has lost about two-thirds of its value since peaking in September 2021. The stock is trading at its lowest since January 2019 and is about to close out its third straight quarter of double-digit percentage losses. Only four stocks in the S&P 500 are having a worse year.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Something to keep an eye on

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I looked into CS recently. It's not in great shape, and probably won't be for years, but it isn't going belly up.

My opinion, of course. I'm wrong 0.0001% of the time. Or I'm right that percentage, I forget.

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SlyPokerDog said:
Greatest country should mean our children are fed.
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...by their parents.

I know, I'm unreasonable and unfeeling, and I need to check my privilege.

I'm sorry--$140/month to feed the children breakfast and lunch? That's $3-$3.50/meal. Does it cost parents $3/meal to feed their children during the summer? If so...why can't they afford that during the school year? If not...why can't they provide meals for their children rather than depending on the school to do so?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
...by their parents.

I know, I'm unreasonable and unfeeling, and I need to check my privilege.

I'm sorry--$140/month to feed the children breakfast and lunch? That's $3-$3.50/meal. Does it cost parents $3/meal to feed their children during the summer? If so...why can't they afford that during the school year? If not...why can't they provide meals for their children rather than depending on the school to do so?
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It doesn't matter. And this should be provided by schools year round, as it was during the pandemic. It costs us exponentially more in lost productivity, lost opportunity and increased poverty and crime not to ensure our children are fed than it costs to feed them.

There is no reason for even a single kid in this country to ever lack nourishment. There is no benefit to allowing it. Only harm.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
...by their parents.

I know, I'm unreasonable and unfeeling, and I need to check my privilege.

I'm sorry--$140/month to feed the children breakfast and lunch? That's $3-$3.50/meal. Does it cost parents $3/meal to feed their children during the summer? If so...why can't they afford that during the school year? If not...why can't they provide meals for their children rather than depending on the school to do so?
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Sorry, but yes, this post DOES seem heartless. You're assuming that EVERY parent can afford to feed their child consistently. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Too many of these kids come from situations that folks like you and I can't wrap our heads around. I've only seen a sliver of this since I started volunteering at the local food bank 9 years ago but it is out there and it is very real. But it's hard to see on the surface in so many instances. Better we take a genuine Christian attitude and feed the multitudes (sound familiar??) to insure that all are fed, than single out those (often to their detriment or shame) who truly need it. This is one situation where "overkill" is truly justified. This country can afford that one instance of generosity.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Sorry, but yes, this post DOES seem heartless. You're assuming that EVERY parent can afford to feed their child consistently. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Too many of these kids come from situations that folks like you and I can't wrap our heads around. I've only seen a sliver of this since I started volunteering at the local food bank 9 years ago but it is out there and it is very real. But it's hard to see on the surface in so many instances. Better we take a genuine Christian attitude and feed the multitudes (sound familiar??) to insure that all are fed, than single out those (often to their detriment or shame) who truly need it. This is one situation where "overkill" is truly justified. This country can afford that one instance of generosity.
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What I'm saying is that most parents are perfectly capable of feeding their children. I'm not saying that families in need shouldn't have assistance. But I don't think the school system is necessarily the mechanism by which that assistance should come. I think that the notion that the school should feed EVERY child two meals a day is using a sledgehammer as a flyswatter.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
What I'm saying is that most parents are perfectly capable of feeding their children. I'm not saying that families in need shouldn't have assistance. I'm saying that the notion that the school should feed EVERY child two meals a day is using a sledgehammer as a flyswatter.
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What flyswatter would you recommend? Schools are already built, they are equipped with industrial kitchens and local distribution capability, and are already centrally located near almost every child in the country.

I'm honestly interested in what more precise tool you would recommend which could be implemented as easily?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
What I'm saying is that most parents are perfectly capable of feeding their children. I'm not saying that families in need shouldn't have assistance. I'm saying that the notion that the school should feed EVERY child two meals a day is using a sledgehammer as a flyswatter.
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And I think you underestimate how many parents aren't perfectly capable of feeding their children. Especially in these current and trying times. I'm not trying to be combative, I just feel the problem is way bigger than most of America realizes. We're so hung up on how "great" this country is, we can't admit where we are seriously less than "great".......and hunger is a problem that has no political affiliation......though we try hard to give it one......as Phat says, deal with hunger in America and a lot of our problems are on their way to a solution.
 
Phatguysrule said:
What flyswatter would you recommend? Schools are already built, they are equipped with industrial kitchens and distribution capability, and are already distributed near almost every child in the country.

I'm honestly interested in what more precise tool you would recommend which could be implemented now?
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How about utilizing the SNAP system? Rather than providing free meals to all children, increase the monthly SNAP allocation to needy families with school-age children, and even allow those benefits to be utilized to pay for school meals. Children in need receive the benefit, and those whose families are financially capable of bearing the cost of feeding them still do so.

BTW, I say this as someone who raised children in a poor district which provided universal breakfast/lunch to all students through 8th grade, and we made a point to provide meals for our children anyway because we felt it was unfair for our family to receive a benefit intended for needy families when we decidedly were not one. IMO--this is one of the biggest problems with the existing social-welfare systems (and not a problem for which I have a reasonable solution): families feeling entitled to utilize benefits when they could do fine without, putting a strain on resources that should be allocated to other truly needy families.
 
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PtldPlatypus said:
How about utilizing the SNAP system? Rather than providing free meals to all children, increase the monthly SNAP allocation to needy families with school-age children, and even allow those benefits to be utilized to pay for school meals. Children in need receive the benefit, and those whose families are financially capable of bearing the cost of feeding them still do so.
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You're giving too many parents too much credit. Many of these kids go hungry because their parents are focused on spending their money other things (necessary and necessary). That may not sound like good parenting but it is what it is. How many stories have we read where people have to choose rent, utilities, gas, etc over food (or enough food). You have a good idea in concept, but the execution is questionable. Kids are innocent/blameless. Get them fed and pray that investment in their futures pay off......
 
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