It's Time to Start Layman

[KingSpeed]

How do we let a guy go 5-20? Save him from his freaky misery. Shouldn't Terry have a rule, where any player missing 10 shots should be sitting next to him? This is ridiculous. This is no MJ taking shots here.

CJ has been on fire. You don’t take him out because of a bad start. By the way, Paul George missed 11 shots. Bench him!!

 

[KingSpeed]

So, I still don't understand. When you're in foul trouble, is the max number of shots you can get 7 or 11? Please clarify.

If you actually watch the games and not the box score, there were many minutes with Nurk on the floor and we didn't make an effort to get him shots.

What's your excuse for Layman not getting more than 7 shots. How about Hood with 5? It's fun and all to be a contrarian on a message board but the facts are in front of us all to see. You can look up plenty of games where Nurk isn't in foul trouble and he also didn't get many shots.

Keep making excuses and propping up a mediocre coach who isn't getting it done and hasn't for 7 seasons straight.

Nurk only played 21 minutes because of foul trouble. 11 shots in 21 minutes is reasonable for our third option.

 

[BrianFromWA]

The Bucks changed coaches and kept the same players ... ( ok, they also signed Pat.) look at them today. I would fire our coach tomorrow morning..

Just putting this out there....the Warriors dynasty started with firing Hand Down, Man Down and hiring broadcaster-with-no-coaching-experience Steve Kerr. They're a Kyrie prayer from being 4-for-4 in Finals since then.

 

[BrianFromWA]

And fuck his feelings

Instead of gettin' crowned you're getting capped.

 

[James lamphear]

Gee I wish I had the reputation of a good defender so people just blindly thought I played good defense when I didn't. Paul George had 47 points and a triple double but yeah Aminu sure did play great defense tonight!

Paul George is lite everyone up in this league it just not us.

 

[illmatic99]

Layman is our best wing. And it's not even close

 

[illmatic99]

Depends on the personalities. Harkless provides something defensively that Jake doesn't yet (and might never). But Harkless just seems to be so hot and cold personality wise.

Jake might be just as or more comfortable coming off the bench and he adds energy and scoring punch for that second unit.

Basically, it's a chemistry thing. I don't think bringing Jake off the bench is that big a detriment right now.

Disagree with this whole post. Harkless doesn't give a shit like 75% of the time. Layman goes hard 100% of the time. And he's more skilled and clearly has more BBIQ. He needs more reps and his defense will improve. Play him 30+ mpg. I'm done with Moe. And ET

 

[Propagandist]

No. Defense matters.

Totally fucking/joking with just you.

 

[Scalma]

 

[illmatic99]

Look at how he's attacking closeouts, and the Eurosteps look so fluid. He's improving by the game

 

[TBpup]

Layman is on such a nice stretch, why Stotts refuse to start him is beyond me. And I don't get why Hood showing up and playing 22 minutes is affecting minutes for Collins, Meyers, Turner, Harkless, Aminu and Curry? It's not that hard unless Stotts is making it that difficult. It seems like Stotts is almost purposely making it difficult. In his defense, Olshey didn't help him out by bringing in a rotation player and not sending one out, but still, play your best 8-9 players and be done with it.

 

[blue9]

Gee I wish I had the reputation of a good defender so people just blindly thought I played good defense when I didn't. Paul George had 47 points and a triple double but yeah Aminu sure did play great defense tonight!

Aminu is a good defender in the same way Nate McMillan was a good defensive coach (when he was our coach).

 

[BonesJones]

Totally fucking/joking with just you.

Ah. Wasnt funny.

 

[Scalma]

Look at how he's attacking closeouts, and the Eurosteps look so fluid. He's improving by the game

That highlight package didn’t even include my favorite play from last night when he attacked a closeout and dished it to Nurkic. That’s a part of his game we haven’t seen much of yet. He can make plays for others.

 

[illmatic99]

Layman is on such a nice stretch, why Stotts refuse to start him is beyond me. And I don't get why Hood showing up and playing 22 minutes is affecting minutes for Collins, Meyers, Turner, Harkless, Aminu and Curry? It's not that hard unless Stotts is making it that difficult. It seems like Stotts is almost purposely making it difficult. In his defense, Olshey didn't help him out by bringing in a rotation player and not sending one out, but still, play your best 8-9 players and be done with it.

It's prolly politics and keeping guys engaged. Harkless in particular has had confidence issues when he got benched and lost minutes. Jake has played 29 mpg the last 7 games. That's good. No real need to start per se (although it would be nice), but he's getting starter minutes. (moe is at 23 mpg in that same stretch)

 

[TBpup]

Layman's minutes are about fine.... it's as @BonesJones brought up, it's when he plays. If he doesn't start, he is subbing in and then playing a really long stretch of minutes. That is tough to maintain energy for.

Last night he came in midway through the 3rd and I think played the rest of the game.

That is tough to do. Start him and he gets normal breaks between rotations.

 

[Irish Trader]

Its a big difference playing second stringers versus first stringers. He did not do much during his short stretch starting. Not to say he might be better now but starting players are different in quality than players coming in off the bench.

 

[blue9]

...starting players are different in quality than players coming in off the bench.

I know you didn't explicitly state that starting players are BETTER than players coming off the bench, but it's implied. And that's crucial to my response:

Except in Portland!

 

[Irish Trader]

Well, we do have a player on the bench who is an 18 mil ET who I wish would go home to another team and clear his contract which is a boat anchor.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Nurk only played 21 minutes because of foul trouble. 11 shots in 21 minutes is reasonable for our third option.

It's reasonable if he was shooting 45%. It's not reasonable if he's shooting 82% like he was. Remember, you play the game to win. Not to be reasonable. Nobody could guard Nurk. It's a sorry excuse.

 

[James lamphear]

Layman is on such a nice stretch, why Stotts refuse to start him is beyond me. And I don't get why Hood showing up and playing 22 minutes is affecting minutes for Collins, Meyers, Turner, Harkless, Aminu and Curry? It's not that hard unless Stotts is making it that difficult. It seems like Stotts is almost purposely making it difficult. In his defense, Olshey didn't help him out by bringing in a rotation player and not sending one out, but still, play your best 8-9 players and be done with it.

Layman or Hood should start and why is Hood is playing those minutes because better offense player then Turner harkless Curry and Aminu. Zach and Leonard is backing up Nurk.

 

[James lamphear]

Its a big difference playing second stringers versus first stringers. He did not do much during his short stretch starting. Not to say he might be better now but starting players are different in quality than players coming in off the bench.

Layman actually finishing with the starter's and playing against there started.

 

[TBpup]

Its a big difference playing second stringers versus first stringers. He did not do much during his short stretch starting. Not to say he might be better now but starting players are different in quality than players coming in off the bench.

Layman did just fine when he was starting....so it's not like this would be anything new this season.