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How about signing him this offseason and replacing Maynor? He is really solid now.
 
I would be good with Jack, but he will cost twice what
Maynor will. Overall, I think Maynor is good enough, and I would rather use anything else on a defensive center
 
Rhal said:
Of course he is going to say that. He wants to try and get the Warriors to overpay him.
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Maybe but I don't think so. I feel if anything he would make more on some other teams. So many teams with too much money to spend this summer.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Maybe but I don't think so. I feel if anything he would make more on some other teams. So many teams with too much money to spend this summer.
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He might get a big offer from a team but he isn't a starting PG/SG and paying him like one would be disastrous for any team. He may actually mean want he says but to come out and say it is a little media ploy as well since the team that can give him the most money/years is the warriors since they have his bird rights I believe.
 
Why would he turn down the team which traded him, Brandon Rush, and Josh McRoberts for Bayless?
 
Jack is Golden State's second-best player right now!
Offer him 8 mil a year and a starting spot, and we might have a chance.
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
How about signing him this offseason and replacing Maynor? He is really solid now.
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I would rather stick with Maynor as he has more experience and in the end, experience is what it really comes down to.
 
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jlprk said:
Why would he turn down the team which traded him, Brandon Rush, and Josh McRoberts for Bayless?
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You forget that we made that move to clear up playing time for Sergio Rodriguez. So that made it all worth it, right?
 
I can't understand why Jackson wants him playing PG with Curry off the ball. Jack's PG instincts are still so shitty but he's become a better scorer.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I can't understand why Jackson wants him playing PG with Curry off the ball. Jack's PG instincts are still so shitty but he's become a better scorer.
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What are you talking about? Everyone makes mistakes but Jarrett Jack is basically running this team of inexperienced players and nearly has them in the second round of the playoffs. Have some respect.
 
When Jack clamped Silly Gilly to 9 and 19 points when Arenas had promised 50 both times, Jarrett deserved a downtown parade for saving the pride of Portland.
 
Question? We already have issues affording Maynor. How are we going to afford Jarrett Jack?:crazy:
 
ripmycity said:
Question? We already have issues affording Maynor. How are we going to afford Jarrett Jack?:crazy:
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In theory we won't have a cap hold on Jack during the offseason, letting us get a center, then use the remaining to sign Jack... but Jack's going to demand so much we'd have to maybe do a sign and trade where we send Matthews (and others) to GS and start Jack and Damain together.
 
We should buy low, not buy high. Find an up-and-coming talent, not a matured one.
 
You could probably sign Maynor and Tony Allen easily for less that what Jack will get. I would choose that route vs JJ
 
Blazinaway said:
You could probably sign Maynor and Tony Allen easily for less that what Jack will get. I would choose that route vs JJ
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I really want Tony Allen. I think the most the guy has ever made is 3.3 MIL. I don't know if we can fit him in (depends on what level of Center we get) but I think he would jump at a 5.2ish MIL per contract for 3 years.
 
Blazinaway said:
You could probably sign Maynor and Tony Allen easily for less that what Jack will get. I would choose that route vs JJ
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I cant say why for sure but I dont think he has a lot of desire to play here. And Im sure he wants to start. With Jack you really have to accept the bad with the good because some of those things have not changed since he was a rookie but the good has gotten a lot better. I like the idea of Jack but I think Maynor and Allen impact our team even more if we could do that for the same price.

If we played Allen and Batum as the starters and brought Wes off the bench with Maynor that would help a lot
 
It's easy to dismiss his faults when they're winning. Keep watching in the playoffs. His decision making while initiating that offense is very suspect. He's a far better scorer than I gave him credit for, though. I suppose he's playing 1 to save Curry's legs a bit now, but Steph is the better passer/play maker.
 
I'm still hoping for a Wes Matthews and cap space for igs. Then batum can move to shooting guard.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I can't understand why Jackson wants him playing PG with Curry off the ball. Jack's PG instincts are still so shitty but he's become a better scorer.
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Because he wants to win? And it's working?
 
I'm getting to the point when I find talking about signing people like Jack or acquiring people like Iggy (and certainly, God help us, Jermaine O'Neal) tiresome. I guess I invested a lot in the we-just-drafted-Greg-Oden, we're-going-to-win-five-championships moment, so trying to claw our way up to, say, Atlanta Hawks level just doesn't excite me. The trouble is that the alternative will take five years of sucking and a hell of a lot of luck. Blah.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I'm getting to the point when I find talking about signing people like Jack or acquiring people like Iggy (and certainly, God help us, Jermaine O'Neal) tiresome. I guess I invested a lot in the we-just-drafted-Greg-Oden, we're-going-to-win-five-championships moment, so trying to claw our way up to, say, Atlanta Hawks level just doesn't excite me. The trouble is that the alternative will take five years of sucking and a hell of a lot of luck. Blah.
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At times I feel like I dont see a scenario out there that makes us a title contender as opposed to a good "playoff making" team (or ATL as you mentioned) and unfortunately unless Olshey really is a wizard or something it seems more and more like either Paul Allen is going to have to over pay and go over the cap to make a 2001 type of run or we are going to have to seriously gamble on a few players and hope they really pay off.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I'm getting to the point when I find talking about signing people like Jack or acquiring people like Iggy (and certainly, God help us, Jermaine O'Neal) tiresome. I guess I invested a lot in the we-just-drafted-Greg-Oden, we're-going-to-win-five-championships moment, so trying to claw our way up to, say, Atlanta Hawks level just doesn't excite me. The trouble is that the alternative will take five years of sucking and a hell of a lot of luck. Blah.
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See I disagree with your statement. Atlanta is not a good example. They have some of the worst fans today. Also, jsmooth is not even close to the player Aldridge is.

Give us a stop gap center combo of jermaine and dalembert; while trading Matthews for igs would be a huge upgrade. Our team would instantly become longer, defensive minded and a headache for all other teams at every position.

Then finding a bench could be as easy as using Barton, freeland and a little more cap space for the back up wing that can create their own shot.

A starting five of Lillard, batum, igs, Aldridge and dalembert.

With a bench of: Leonard, jj redick, jermaine, and claver is a solid rotation.

I think that's better than Atlanta could ever dream of being.
 
Boise Blazer said:
At times I feel like I dont see a scenario out there that makes us a title contender as opposed to a good "playoff making" team (or ATL as you mentioned) and unfortunately unless Olshey really is a wizard or something it seems more and more like either Paul Allen is going to have to over pay and go over the cap to make a 2001 type of run or we are going to have to seriously gamble on a few players and hope they really pay off.
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Much as I love the guy, I hope you're not thinking that Jarrett Jack is the player to put all our chips on...
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Much as I love the guy, I hope you're not thinking that Jarrett Jack is the player to put all our chips on...
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Not at all. I dont even like the idea of gambling but if we do Im afraid its going to have to be a big gamble. Like Bynum, Tyreke Evans. Not that Im saying we should but it feels like we are going to have to gamble on injuries or a player that has fallen off but has shown all-star or near all star talent in the past. And I really hate the idea of Bynum. But its going to have to be high risk high reward and it going to have to pay off to make the jump from playoff maker to title contender. Unless of course Paul Allen is ready to go over the cap. Or we get waaaaaaay lucky in the draft and I think we used up all of our credit for about a decade with Lillard.
 
Boise Blazer said:
Not at all. I dont even like the idea of gambling but if we do Im afraid its going to have to be a big gamble. Like Bynum, Tyreke Evans. Not that Im saying we should but it feels like we are going to have to gamble on injuries or a player that has fallen off but has shown all-star or near all star talent in the past. And I really hate the idea of Bynum. But its going to have to be high risk high reward and it going to have to pay off to make the jump from playoff maker to title contender. Unless of course Paul Allen is ready to go over the cap. Or we get waaaaaaay lucky in the draft and I think we used up all of our credit for about a decade with Lillard.
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I think there is no chance in hell Allen gambles on a center like Bynum this summer; unless he agrees to some insanely small contract like hickson for 1 year. It's too much of a gamble with our luck, IMO.
 
magnifier661 said:
I think there is no chance in hell Allen gambles on a center like Bynum this summer; unless he agrees to some insanely small contract like hickson for 1 year. It's too much of a gamble with our luck, IMO.
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I agree but I think this is why some people get discouraged because it feels like we are making changed to make the playoffs and the only way to be a title contender is to go into luxary tax or take a huge gamble
 
Boise Blazer said:
I agree but I think this is why some people get discouraged because it feels like we are making changed to make the playoffs and the only way to be a title contender is to go into luxary tax or take a huge gamble
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I think Portland and olshey want to make the playoffs first and try and keep manageable, tradeable talent. I think we act patiently for the disgruntled star to want to leave a team. Then we would have the talent and contracts to make it work.
 
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