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yankeesince59

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yankeesince59 said:
Sorry, Jayson, but no, "we" don't owe Delgado "an apology", mainly because unlike you, "we" didn't have a vote.

...standing on you soap box pontificating about what a travesty it is that he didn't get many votes, after you, yourself didn't even vote for him is laughable.


http://espn.go.com/blog/jayson-stark/post/_/id/1051/delgado-deserved-far-better-in-hof-voting
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Unbelievable Stark rants, yet does NOT put his money where his mouth or ballot box is.....

On top of that, I'd not give Delgado a vote. IMO, anyone who plays most or all of his career in the Toronto or old Seattle Homer Domes, should be given but a glance. I see nothing special about Delgado.
 
I've got to be honest, I was a little surprised myself. I mean 3.8% of the votes. I don't care if the guy hit his entire career in Coors field, the #s he put up deserved more. IMO a lot more. 10 straight 30 HR seasons, 473 career HRs & over 1,500 RBI. Think guys like Jim Rice & Tony Perez. Just saying.
 
Oh, I'm not disputing that Delgado should have garnered more votes. But I just found it odd that Stark found it necessary to write a column that talks about how Delgado was snubbed even though Jayson didn't even vote for him.
 
Well Stark has never been known for having both oars in the water.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Oh, I'm not disputing that Delgado should have garnered more votes. But I just found it odd that Stark found it necessary to write a column that talks about how Delgado was snubbed even though Jayson didn't even vote for him.
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Either way, I got the jest of your post 59, no controversy here, or question of your posts intent.

I meant to stick with Stark; like you said, he talks about why Delgado was snubbed, yet didn't vote for Carlos himself, a awkward hypocritical voice of Stark, (once again). I'd agree Carlos should of seen more votes, yet, I don't see himn getting into the HOF. Not sure if Toronto's Homer Dome hurt him, or the fact he played in a Low Market Exposure Team for so long.....

No problemo, from my camp, I think I understood the jest of your post, all on Stark actually, nothing so much to do with Carlos, other than the off the cuff statements I made....Touche mon ami...!
 
Stark did write a great article on Jeter.
http://espn.go.com/blog/jayson-stark/post/_/id/952/ten-astounding-derek-jeter-numbers

Here's an except from that article:

In 158 postseason games, roughly the equivalent of a full season, Jeter wound up with 200 hits, 20 homers, 18 steals, a .308 batting average, a .374 on-base percentage and an .838 OPS. So how many active players have ever had a regular season like that? Exactly five. And one of them is (guess who?) Derek Jeter. Who of course also had a "season" like that in October. Against the best teams and the best pitchers, in the most pressurized games of his life. Don't tell me that's overrated.
 
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Yep, I read that article, heard as much also on MLB.tv....Jeter is damn near in a world of his own, when it comes to Post Season.....

If its true: "You don't know what you got til it's gone, then its time to break out the Kleenex come Opening day...IMO...!
 
The person who wasted a vote on Erstad should have his HOF voting ballot revoked.
 
It's absurd, crazy, proves some writers need their privileges taken away.

Last year, a writer from Boston, voted for Joaquin Benoit...!!! WTF,,,,,! Not only an absurd pick, Benoit is still playing not close to being eligible, let alone the 5 year Retirement period. D:id that writer just fall off the ship, and not comprehend what laws or rules mean, or give any Honor to RE2Specting the HOF prime MLB Heart itself....!

Hang 'em High, Fry those who are afraid of heights.....

:smiley-hang::smiley-hang: :smiley-hang:

:smiley-elektro::smiley-elektro::smiley-elektro:

Those who abuse it, lose it. Plain & Simple.

2ndly- MLB passed a ordinance, last year to assure NO-Transparency, (with minor fines or worse). The ONE THING MLB Needs, and Must do to keep this train on the tracks over millenniums is to INCORPORATE
MANDATORY TRANSPARENCY......to the Public and beyond.
 
I will say this, Delgado before McGriff ....that's for dam sure and the current comparison/similarity of batting stats between Papi and Delgado is astounding.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Oh, I'm not disputing that Delgado should have garnered more votes. But I just found it odd that Stark found it necessary to write a column that talks about how Delgado was snubbed even though Jayson didn't even vote for him.
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Stark like most sportswriters in the Social Media Age have turned hypocrisy into an asset. There was a time not the long ago, and one where most of you spent your formative words, where a person was judged by their words. The quality and consistency of your word not only mattered...it defined you. Today you can pop off and say what you feel at that instant and then say the complete opposite without consequence (well unless 59 bookmarked it and reminds you, right bss?). Changing positions and points of view without acknowledgement to that fact is commonplace today, the fear of being a hypocrite doesn't exist, rather hypocrisy is worn as a badge of belonging.

Unfortunately this acceptance of hypocrisy is a by-product of the sanitization of personal interactions. I'm somewhat encouraged that data is showing a trending of social media's youngest demographic returning to personal responsibility/accountability ethos. Developmentally in the absence of structure, humans (like all living things) seek a natural order. So it'll take time, but maybe Stark's grandkids will be more honorable sportswriters.
 
...unfortunately, most writers are under pressure to write something, anything for that matter. And sometimes they don't take enough time to think things out before they publish something.

...and fwiw, the analogy and reference to our old friend didn't go unnoticed...I got a good chuckle.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...unfortunately, most writers are under pressure to write something, anything for that matter. And sometimes they don't take enough time to think things out before they publish something.

...and fwiw, the analogy and reference to our old friend didn't go unnoticed...I got a good chuckle.
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I kinda miss reminding that clown how much of an ass-wipe he is.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...unfortunately, most writers are under pressure to write something, anything for that matter. And sometimes they don't take enough time to think things out before they publish something.

...and fwiw, the analogy and reference to our old friend didn't go unnoticed...I got a good chuckle.
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De Nada.

Get the timeline pressure, just saying they don't even bother to think it through anymore because there isn't any accountability...thus hypocrisy is the norm.
 
totus44 said:
Stark like most sportswriters in the Social Media Age have turned hypocrisy into an asset. There was a time not the long ago, and one where most of you spent your formative words, where a person was judged by their words. The quality and consistency of your word not only mattered...it defined you. Today you can pop off and say what you feel at that instant and then say the complete opposite without consequence (well unless 59 bookmarked it and reminds you, right bss?). Changing positions and points of view without acknowledgement to that fact is commonplace today, the fear of being a hypocrite doesn't exist, rather hypocrisy is worn as a badge of belonging.

Unfortunately this acceptance of hypocrisy is a by-product of the sanitization of personal interactions. I'm somewhat encouraged that data is showing a trending of social media's youngest demographic returning to personal responsibility/accountability ethos. Developmentally in the absence of structure, humans (like all living things) seek a natural order. So it'll take time, but maybe Stark's grandkids will be more honorable sportswriters.
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Addition by Subtraction.

Or- each generation vows to differ from the previous. Learning What Not To Do, Say.
 
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