Jerami Grant Extension?

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I'm willing to bet he won't make the all-star roster on its initial release this year or next, just like he hasn't in previous years. Same with All-NBA. He's closer to the 20th best player in the West than he is the 12th.

We did this same song in dance with CJ for years. People kept saying his numbers were basically good enough for him to be considered an all-star, yet he continued to not make the all-star team.

.... Which is why I said fringe all star. We're talking about should he wait to the off-season? That's my answer. Lol.

We're gonna spin in circles because I'm not disagreeing with you, it's semantics.


I, too, don't think he's gonna be an all star. But that wasn't the original question I posted. I asked if grant will wait to see if he is before he talks extension for leverage purposes. That was it. Lol
 
Grant is playing well enough to be an all-star but our record won't reflect it across the voting regions of NBA fans....most people live in the east and they're asleep when Portland home games tip off and our road games aren't picking up national coverage either.
 
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.... Which is why I said fringe all star. We're talking about should he wait to the off-season? That's my answer. Lol.

We're gonna spin in circles because I'm not disagreeing with you, it's semantics.


I, too, don't think he's gonna be an all star. But that wasn't the original question I posted. I asked if grant will wait to see if he is before he talks extension for leverage purposes. That was it. Lol

And I'm still saying no I don't think he should wait to see if he's an all-star because he's unlikely to be one.
 
I think that right after the front office does whatever they do around the trade deadline (assuming it's trying to make this team better around Dame) they should announce extensions for JG and Hart, if they aren't dealt. The thing is that we are already dodging the tax this season and resetting the clock on the repeater. Therefore from here on out we should be looking to push our team's salary ceiling as high as we can. (That's again if we're trying to build a contender around Dame).

I'm not saying the Hart and JG should have untradeable salaries but we should definitely be willing to give them salaries like we gave Ant and Nurk that are on the higher end of what's reasonable for them.
 
From The Athletic today. Paywall, but as far as Grant being happy here and hopefully a deal in the works, this is the money shot.

"But on Friday, when it came to the subject of Grant remaining in Portland — be it via an extension or him choosing the Blazers in free agency — there were good vibes all around.

Grant told The Athletic that he is “not really focused” on his extension because he is trying to win games at the moment. But he gushed about his first season in Portland, where he is averaging 22.3 points and 4.3 rebounds while shooting 44.2 percent from 3-point range.

“I definitely like it here; love it here,’’ Grant said. “The guys have been very welcoming, it’s definitely a family environment, everybody is super cool, got good guys on the team, great organization — Joe, Chauncey, everything. I’m definitely enjoying it here.’’

When told that didn’t sound like a scenario that would cause a player to leave, Grant chuckled.

“I ain’t really plan on leaving,’’ he said."
That sort of says the wink nod deal is done just like with Nurk last season
 
Jeremy Lin was voted in one year....I'd say Jerami is way more qualified than Lin ever was....a lot of old past the prime stars get the vote too like old Dirk or Melo or even Kobe at the end when they clearly weren't better than younger guys at their position anymore...the fact is it's a popularity contest, not an achievement like all NBA first team would be. It's money as well.
Lin was never in the ASG.
 
All-Star voting is stupid and a popularity contest; always has been and always will be. Not just in the NBA but other professional leagues. Grant should at least deserve a look at it, but won't get in no. I do think he seems happy to be here and I really do hope he signs the extension. Right now I would say its 70/30 that he does.

We shall see.
 
Lin was never in the ASG.
When you google it it says..."YES"....which is what I did, I remember the controversy over him getting so many Chinese votes but his allstar nod was with the CBA, not the NBA..by all accounts the Knicks were sure he'd get voted in the year after Linsanity but he was a Rocket by then I think.....Melo didn't like him. My Taiwanese relatives were thrilled when Linsanity happened and he was front page news all over asia during that stretch. My point is the allstar game is a popularity contest where older stars rest on their past achievements and still get voted in or players from large population areas get more votes than small market players, etc...you can see by Jerami Grant's lack of votes and he's one of the best PFs in the league right now.
 
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I'd say the deal is already in place to re-sign Jerami....he sounds like he's here and wants to be...Dame wants him...they traded Hart in order to pay him...he knows he'll get an extra year here if he wants it like Norm did and that security is worth a lot in today's revolving door NBA. Last of my worries is Grant leaving....he doesn't want to go to another Detroit situation or take a pay cut to ring chase with another superstar team like the Lakers.
 
I'd say the deal is already in place to re-sign Jerami....he sounds like he's here and wants to be...Dame wants him...they traded Hart in order to pay him...he knows he'll get an extra year here if he wants it like Norm did and that security is worth a lot in today's revolving door NBA. Last of my worries is Grant leaving....he doesn't want to go to another Detroit situation or take a pay cut to ring chase with another superstar team like the Lakers.
Are the Blazers really THAT much different than his situation in Detroit?
 
Are the Blazers really THAT much different than his situation in Detroit?
yeah...they're not in Detroit...notice how many NBA players choose to retire in Detroit..probably zero. It's a slum surrounded by the Rust Belt ...yuck. NBA players buy houses in Portland ..Nance, Powell, CJ, Dame, on and on...much nicer place to raise a family than Detroit
 
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Like pretty much everyone, I hope we don't break the bank on Grant. He's a third option at best. So is Ant. I like Ant but he might be more valuable to us as a trade piece. As for Grant, if we are going to pay more than his value, make it a sign and trade (if his rights are eligible, which IDK).
 
Like pretty much everyone, I hope we don't break the bank on Grant. He's a third option at best. So is Ant. I like Ant but he might be more valuable to us as a trade piece. As for Grant, if we are going to pay more than his value, make it a sign and trade (if his rights are eligible, which IDK).
Quoting you but this for anyone. Can we sign and trade Grant with our cap situation? I know we can go over cap to sign him so I assume we can? And then second question, who (about) would we want in return?
 
Quoting you but this for anyone. Can we sign and trade Grant with our cap situation? I know we can go over cap to sign him so I assume we can? And then second question, who (about) would we want in return?

To piggyback off of your post, can we frontload the first year to match a higher salary?
 
Quoting you but this for anyone. Can we sign and trade Grant with our cap situation? I know we can go over cap to sign him so I assume we can? And then second question, who (about) would we want in return?
Yes - S&T would not impact Portland. The team receiving Grant would have to be below the hard-cap line (~$6M above the tax line). Since Portland has full-Bird rights, Portland can go into the tax to re-sign him.

To piggyback off of your post, can we frontload the first year to match a higher salary?
Yes - Portland could frontload the contract. The stipulation is that because an exception is being used, there is only an 8% variation allowed. IE - if Grant's year 1 salary was $30M, year 2 could not be less than $27.6M (or 8% reduction).
 
I'd say the deal is already in place to re-sign Jerami....he sounds like he's here and wants to be...Dame wants him...they traded Hart in order to pay him...he knows he'll get an extra year here if he wants it like Norm did and that security is worth a lot in today's revolving door NBA. Last of my worries is Grant leaving....he doesn't want to go to another Detroit situation or take a pay cut to ring chase with another superstar team like the Lakers.
What’s a Detroit situation?
 
What’s a Detroit situation?
To me it's living in a less than appealing city than Portland ..granted I haven't been there in a long time but man that's one of the last NBA cities I would want to live in . In Detroit he was the number one option ..in Portland he doesn't have that pressure and can be a second or third option
 
Quoting you but this for anyone. Can we sign and trade Grant with our cap situation? I know we can go over cap to sign him so I assume we can? And then second question, who (about) would we want in return?
Problem is a team would only need us to assist in a sign and trade if they didn't have cap room, but they can't be in the luxury tax for the entire 2023-24 season to receive a player in a sign and trade either. As you say they need to give the Blazers compensation we are interested in too. So it becomes a very small list of maybe only a couple teams that can do all of those things, so probably more likely that Grant just resigns, or if not that he walks.
 
To me it's living in a less than appealing city than Portland ..granted I haven't been there in a long time but man that's one of the last NBA cities I would want to live in . In Detroit he was the number one option ..in Portland he doesn't have that pressure and can be a second or third option
Again - I'm not seeing much of a difference in situation.
Both Portland & Detroit are in the bottom 1/3 of NBA cities for most players.
 
Problem is a team would only need us to assist in a sign and trade if they didn't have cap room, but they can't be in the luxury tax for the entire 2023-24 season to receive a player in a sign and trade either. As you say they need to give the Blazers compensation we are interested in too. So it becomes a very small list of maybe only a couple teams that can do all of those things, so probably more likely that Grant just resigns, or if not that he walks.
They can be a little into the luxury tax, they're just hard capped which is like 9M above the lux tax... if I remember correctly.
 
Problem is a team would only need us to assist in a sign and trade if they didn't have cap room, but they can't be in the luxury tax for the entire 2023-24 season to receive a player in a sign and trade either. As you say they need to give the Blazers compensation we are interested in too. So it becomes a very small list of maybe only a couple teams that can do all of those things, so probably more likely that Grant just resigns, or if not that he walks.

just a minor quibble: the team receiving a S&T would be hard-capped at the apron, not the luxury tax threshold
 
No matter what condition a city is in, the condition of the team plan is most important. These guys live in the nicest areas of any city they choose. LA has plenty of awful areas and problems. There are areas in Miami that aren't Paradise. But if said player likes the plan going forward, and his chemistry with fellow players, that is what will make him sign on the dotted line. I don't want the team to outbid themselves. Not saying they lowball either. But be smarter.
 
I'd say the deal is already in place to re-sign Jerami....he sounds like he's here and wants to be...Dame wants him...they traded Hart in order to pay him...he knows he'll get an extra year here if he wants it like Norm did and that security is worth a lot in today's revolving door NBA. Last of my worries is Grant leaving....he doesn't want to go to another Detroit situation or take a pay cut to ring chase with another superstar team like the Lakers.

It's not like he was living in 8 mile.
 
It's not like he was living in 8 mile.
It was his neighbor...that city ..you can live in a million dollar condo in Calcutta but you still live in Calcutta...in the words of Henry Miller...you can look at the trash in the ditch or the flowers on the hill....choices. I sure would put Detroit on the bottom of NBA cities I'd live in or raise a family in.
 

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