Jerami Grant Extension?

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Pinwheel1 said:
I agree with everything you said, but do we ever get the player who would really help us?
Anything is possible, even getting Victor, but the odds are not great.
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Under Olshey the answer is no. Olshey looks more and more like a snake oil salesman with each passing day.
 
blazerkor said:
How do you know we're not going to get Siakam? If we have the number 5 pick in this draft, we give them that, the Knicks pick, our 2026 and 2028 FRPs along with Ant and Nurk... I'm pretty sure that's more than enough for Pascal. At 29 he doesn't fit with Barnes and OGs timelines as well as Ant and picks. I don't even know if I'd want to do the deal but I think that it could get done. Also, no deal is likely until it actually happens, so I'm not saying it's likely.
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Perhaps the Blazers did try to get Pascal at the trade deadline.And perhaps that’s what the Raptors wanted. Said if you can get me a top 5 pick along with Ant & Nurk now We’re in business.
 
Grant is the 3rd best player on a good team.
 
blazerkor said:
How do you know we're not going to get Siakam? If we have the number 5 pick in this draft, we give them that, the Knicks pick, our 2026 and 2028 FRPs along with Ant and Nurk... I'm pretty sure that's more than enough for Pascal. At 29 he doesn't fit with Barnes and OGs timelines as well as Ant and picks. I don't even know if I'd want to do the deal but I think that it could get done. Also, no deal is likely until it actually happens, so I'm not saying it's likely.
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I think that’s too much for Siakam. Way too much. 4 first round picks? Including a top 5 in a loaded draft, a good young prospect in Simons and Nurkic for a borderline All Star.

Cronin should be fired on the spot if he does that
 
Mediocre Man said:
I like Grant and all but the problem is that he’s not a PF. He’s got a small forward body. Can he guard SFs? I don’t know, but I do know he can’t guard 4s or rebound like a 4

So how do you combat that?
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You combat that by Grant playing with another forward who can rebound well and switch between forward positions. Josh Hart could have been the answer but I guess we couldn’t afford him?
I wish the Blazers could have had one year of Hart and Sharpe playing together as starters. I think they would have been great together pushing the ball up the court and making up for Grant’s rebounding deficiencies.
But, Hart is gone, so hopefully we’ll see that kind of player added in the offseason.
 
MickZagger said:
I think that’s too much for Siakam. Way too much. 4 first round picks? Including a top 5 in a loaded draft, a good young prospect in Simons and Nurkic for a borderline All Star.

Cronin should be fired on the spot if he does that
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Right, I don't think it would cost that much but I think Assai can and would get over on Joe a little bit. Probably three firsts, And and Nurk would get it done and maybe we could keep our lotto pick but I doubt it. I also don't think Pascal is a borderline all star when he is the second option. I think he's all nba as a second option. He does everything we need. The problem might be that getting him would leave us with a need a C. So we better be able to get him without selling the entire fucking farm.

Like I said I don't know if I'd even want the deal but we do have the assets to make it happen and I think Toronto is acting like they don't want to but he is the guy that makes most sense for them to trade just because he probably has the highest trade value and is the oldest of their legitimate foundational players.
 
blazerkor said:
Right, I don't think it would cost that much but I think Assai can and would get over on Joe a little bit. Probably three firsts, And and Nurk would get it done and maybe we could keep our lotto pick but I doubt it. I also don't think Pascal is a borderline all star when he is the second option. I think he's all nba as a second option. He does everything we need. The problem might be that getting him would leave us with a need a C. So we better be able to get him without selling the entire fucking farm.

Like I said I don't know if I'd even want the deal but we do have the assets to make it happen and I think Toronto is acting like they don't want to but he is the guy that makes most sense for them to trade just because he probably has the highest trade value and is the oldest of their legitimate foundational players.
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insert Jaylen Brown and I’d maybe do the deal. Siakam is good. Not a guy you give up that much for. A deal like that for Siakam wouldn’t make us title contenders and would set us back considerably for the future
 
blazerfan11 said:
You combat that by Grant playing with another forward who can rebound well and switch between forward positions. Josh Hart could have been the answer but I guess we couldn’t afford him?
I wish the Blazers could have had one year of Hart and Sharpe playing together as starters. I think they would have been great together pushing the ball up the court and making up for Grant’s rebounding deficiencies.
But, Hart is gone, so hopefully we’ll see that kind of player added in the offseason.
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That’s an awfully small front court. We were basically a slightly better than .500 team with that front court duo
 
blazerkor said:
How do you know we're not going to get Siakam? If we have the number 5 pick in this draft, we give them that, the Knicks pick, our 2026 and 2028 FRPs along with Ant and Nurk... I'm pretty sure that's more than enough for Pascal. At 29 he doesn't fit with Barnes and OGs timelines as well as Ant and picks. I don't even know if I'd want to do the deal but I think that it could get done. Also, no deal is likely until it actually happens, so I'm not saying it's likely.
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wut?

you're saying 4 picks, one of them a 5th pick + 3 other 1st's + Ant + Nurk + having to guarantee the 2024 1st to Chicago...all for Siakam?

I'm sorry man...lay off the red bull and peyote
 
riverman said:
yeah...they're not in Detroit...notice how many NBA players choose to retire in Detroit..probably zero. It's a slum surrounded by the Rust Belt ...yuck. NBA players buy houses in Portland ..Nance, Powell, CJ, Dame, on and on...much nicer place to raise a family than Detroit
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Portland is a shithole according to the OT section
 
wizenheimer said:
wut?

you're saying 4 picks, one of them a 5th pick + 3 other 1st's + Ant + Nurk + having to guarantee the 2024 1st to Chicago...all for Siakam?

I'm sorry man...lay off the red bull and peyote
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Someone said that we don't have enough to get Siakam and I telling them that we obviously do but I don't know if that would be my target if we could. I think we could probably get him for both of our firsts this year along with And and Nurk but still I don't know if I'd want to do that. A lot of people in this forum post like we don't have enough assets to get a second all star to go with Dame, Jerami and Shaedon... I attempted to show that we have more than enough.
 
blazerfan11 said:
How many players are you allowed to extend like that?
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With the new CBA each team is only allowed one Go-go Gadget Exception each season, unfortunately. Grant will have to wait, cause we making Sharpe 7 ft.
 
blazerfan11 said:
You combat that by Grant playing with another forward who can rebound well and switch between forward positions. Josh Hart could have been the answer but I guess we couldn’t afford him?
I wish the Blazers could have had one year of Hart and Sharpe playing together as starters. I think they would have been great together pushing the ball up the court and making up for Grant’s rebounding deficiencies.
But, Hart is gone, so hopefully we’ll see that kind of player added in the offseason.
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I don't think it's that we couldn't afford Hart. I just think he didn't want to be on the West Coast. Nor did his wife. And we played him out of position, so he didn't have enough success to help change his mind.
 
Mediocre Man said:
But doesn’t Grant play the 4. I know he shouldn’t but does he or any team he’s been on?
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If he can't be a 3 we should be looking to packaging him for a non-tweener forward. He's not a good enough 4 for a championship team, IMO.

I think he can play the 3 just fine, so a legit All Star caliber 4 would be my goal.
 
Phatguysrule said:
If he can't be a 3 we should be looking to packaging him for a non-tweener forward. He's not a good enough 4 for a championship team, IMO.

I think he can play the 3 just fine, so a legit All Star caliber 4 would be my goal.
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Championship? LOL
 
Phatguysrule said:
If he can't be a 3 we should be looking to packaging him for a non-tweener forward. He's not a good enough 4 for a championship team, IMO.

I think he can play the 3 just fine, so a legit All Star caliber 4 would be my goal.
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Mine too
 
IMO it does not really matter if Grant is a PF or SF as long as he is matched with a different type of forward. OG for example is a 6'7 SF who weighs 230. However, I am not sure about his handles. If they go the SF route then preferably they find one who is bigger than what we have and can create his own shot.
 
Mediocre Man said:
That’s an awfully small front court. We were basically a slightly better than .500 team with that front court duo
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Hart is gone, so he's not an option.
All the forwards in the draft are 6'7" - 6'8" or taller.
Jarace Walker is listed as 240 lbs., 6'8" with a 7'2" wingspan. "Walker has an NBA ready body."

 
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blazerfan11 said:
Hart is gone, so he's not an option.
All the forwards in the draft are 6'7" - 6'8".
Jarace Walker is listed as 240 lbs., 6'8" with a 7'2" wingspan. "Walker has an NBA ready body."

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he’s a beast. High motor as well
 
blazerkor said:
Someone said that we don't have enough to get Siakam and I telling them that we obviously do but I don't know if that would be my target if we could. I think we could probably get him for both of our firsts this year along with And and Nurk but still I don't know if I'd want to do that. A lot of people in this forum post like we don't have enough assets to get a second all star to go with Dame, Jerami and Shaedon... I attempted to show that we have more than enough.
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ok...I see what you were doing. I was worried that you had finally lost your marbles...the risk all Blazer fans face, especially if they participate in a forum with the amazing battle-bots HCP & Kingspeed

at this point in NBA time I think draft picks are at their lowest trade value ever. Now, that's seems generally gauged by mid and late first round picks that have been exchanged over the last year or so. And the rumors we've heard about what teams have been asking. What really worries me about that is that Cronin may be determined to trade Portland's pick and I think that depressed market for picks would reach all the way up and force Cronin into a bad trade

I also think the Blazers have to really be cautious about trading picks 4-7 years out. Dame was better than ever this year but eventually he'll start to regress and the Blazers might be trading away a lottery pick or two if they aren't careful....at a time when they'd really need them

I'm fairly well convinced that the Blazers won't have enough leverage with their draft pick to bring back a high value player and that the best return from that pick will be to use it. I think the performance and upside of Sharpe demonstrates that value.
 
wizenheimer said:
ok...I see what you were doing. I was worried that you had finally lost your marbles...the risk all Blazer fans face, especially if they participate in a forum with the amazing battle-bots HCP & Kingspeed

at this point in NBA time I think draft picks are at their lowest trade value ever. Now, that's seems generally gauged by mid and late first round picks that have been exchanged over the last year or so. And the rumors we've heard about what teams have been asking. What really worries me about that is that Cronin may be determined to trade Portland's pick and I think that depressed market for picks would reach all the way up and force Cronin into a bad trade

I also think the Blazers have to really be cautious about trading picks 4-7 years out. Dame was better than ever this year but eventually he'll start to regress and the Blazers might be trading away a lottery pick or two if they aren't careful....at a time when they'd really need them

I'm fairly well convinced that the Blazers won't have enough leverage with their draft pick to bring back a high value player and that the best return from that pick will be to use it. I think the performance and upside of Sharpe demonstrates that value.
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I agree with this. Not that that matters, but I do. I think draft picks come in handy to sweeten deals, but not make them. Unless the pick is top 3 or so, then maybe a rebuilding team, like we should be, takes that pick for a bonafide allstar level player
 
blazerfan11 said:
Hart is gone, so he's not an option.
All the forwards in the draft are 6'7" - 6'8" or taller.
Jarace Walker is listed as 240 lbs., 6'8" with a 7'2" wingspan. "Walker has an NBA ready body."
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With his size in mind, I like that he has range on his shot AND can put the ball on the floor and finish with a nice floater. (When needed)
He and Watford would be a good duo at PF.
 
wizenheimer said:
ok...I see what you were doing. I was worried that you had finally lost your marbles...the risk all Blazer fans face, especially if they participate in a forum with the amazing battle-bots HCP & Kingspeed

at this point in NBA time I think draft picks are at their lowest trade value ever. Now, that's seems generally gauged by mid and late first round picks that have been exchanged over the last year or so. And the rumors we've heard about what teams have been asking. What really worries me about that is that Cronin may be determined to trade Portland's pick and I think that depressed market for picks would reach all the way up and force Cronin into a bad trade

I also think the Blazers have to really be cautious about trading picks 4-7 years out. Dame was better than ever this year but eventually he'll start to regress and the Blazers might be trading away a lottery pick or two if they aren't careful....at a time when they'd really need them

I'm fairly well convinced that the Blazers won't have enough leverage with their draft pick to bring back a high value player and that the best return from that pick will be to use it. I think the performance and upside of Sharpe demonstrates that value.
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I hear you but without leveraging future picks and without leveraging this pick... we are basically in a rebuild that Dame said he has no interest in. I think if Joe sees things your way he'll have to tell Dame and Dame will want out because I don't think that is what they have discussed in the past. So we either overpay for a piece or two that helps us right now but might not get us to serious contender status or we essentially push Dame out.

We really have to wait until after the lotto on May 16th to properly have this conversation though.
 
Mediocre Man said:
he’s a beast. High motor as well
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Looks like Jabari Walker. Go back and look at Jabari's highlights at Colorado. Going against mostly one and doners, and guys who will most likely never play in the NBA, he was a beast too, at times. Jarace looks like a developmental talent. I don't see Banchero .
 
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