Free Agent Jerami Grant flight risk medium high

[wizenheimer]

Dame still shined brightly the second half...

Point being- elite talent usually shines regardless of the situation. Role players are much more dependent upon situations.

Grant is a nice player, but he is definitely a role player

yep

all Portland has had to support Dame, besides Aldridge, has been role players. A decade of role players and every single one with major flaws. Hart was probably the most well-rounded role player

 

[Mediocre Man]

what draft capital?

Philly has exactly 0 first round picks available right now. After the draft, the only first they'd have to trade would be their 2030 first. They don't even have a 2nd round pick till 2027

so essentially, you're advocating for Portland to trade Dame for Tobias Harris, Maxey, and a 2030 first round pick

c'mon man

HYPOTHETICALLY Maxie

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Grant is the type of player you can include in a trade that the team getting him can sell to the fanbase as "Well I guess it could have been worse."

 

[wizenheimer]

HYPOTHETICALLY Maxie

during my hypothetical life I've bedded Sophia Loren, Natalie Wood, Tuesday Weld, Raquel Welch, Farrah Fawcett, and Rosario Dawson. I've also won the lottery 5 times, inherited a 400,000 acre ranch, and flown my jet to Iceland and Fiji. My wife adored me and never complained and my kids never talked back. Weeds didn't grow in my garden either and I never gained weight

my hypothetical life has been great!

 

[Cugel]

Wouldn't be shocked if he leaves. Makes it that much harder for Joe however.

 

[julius]

When you assume, you make an ass out of u, and me. Dame's a different breed.

He might be, but it's odd that we're acting like it's logical to compare a guy who went to 4 years of college ball to someone who showed up at Kentucky and went to a few practices.

Even Dame himself would admit if he came out as a non playing freshman in college, went as long without playing organized basketball as Shaedon did, his rookie year would've been pedestrian.

 

[KingSpeed]

sure....I'm comparing a rookie to a rookie ...how they got to the dance is another story but Dame came out of the gate as a franchise level star....Sharpe did not.

Neither did Giannis. Or Dirk. Or Kobe. All players arguably better than Dame. You have to be a little patient.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don't like to overpay, but in this case, we might have to. If the offers are close he will bolt. But I really don't think they will be close.

 

[blazerkor]

I think this is bullshit. I don't think a guy who is in a contract year sits out the rest of the season after having a slump without having a wink wink deal with Joe. I think his deal will be announced as soon as deals can and I think it will be more than most in here will be happy with but not so much that we want Joe fired. Think Ant and Nurk.

 

[e_blazer]

So how many of those teams traded a superstar and reloaded? Or was it just shorty drafting?

I don’t know, but it does look like it’s mainly small market teams that have a problem turning draft picks into contenders. There’s no certainty either in a reload or a rebuild.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Dame still shined brightly the second half...

Point being- elite talent usually shines regardless of the situation. Role players are much more dependent upon situations.

Grant is a nice player, but he is definitely a role player

He did. Im not saying Grant is a superstar like Dame. Im saying i think he is a quality role player and with a healthy, balanced roster he could be part of a contending team. Our contending team. But he needs to be third option i think. We need one more player better than him and then a couple more at his level. I think we pretty much agree. We cant pay him like an all star but for an anfernee simons type contract i think he is worth it for us

 

[Cugel]

I think this is bullshit. I don't think a guy who is in a contract year sits out the rest of the season after having a slump without having a wink wink deal with Joe. I think his deal will be announced as soon as deals can and I think it will be more than most in here will be happy with but not so much that we want Joe fired. Think Ant and Nurk.

That is a good point.

 

[Whyachi]

And miss the playoffs for 16 years like the Kings did. Yeah how great.

14, already missed playoffs for 2 years

 

[MickZagger]

I think this is bullshit. I don't think a guy who is in a contract year sits out the rest of the season after having a slump without having a wink wink deal with Joe. I think his deal will be announced as soon as deals can and I think it will be more than most in here will be happy with but not so much that we want Joe fired. Think Ant and Nurk.

You want me to think of two bad signing when I think of Grant possible deal? UghA

Joe is inept. I’m hoping he’s canned and a full rebuild is in effect.

 

[blazerkor]

You want me to think of two bad signing when I think of Grant possible deal? UghA

Joe is inept. I’m hoping he’s canned and a full rebuild is in effect.

I'm just telling you what I think will happen. I also think we will move both of those other guys (Ant and Nurk) sure draft picks will hold most of the value in that or those trade(s) but those signings were us doing what I think we will do with Jerami. We did and will make sure our guy is locked in by overpaying but not enough to make the contract punitive if we have to move it.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Good point brought up that Jerami is unlikely to have sat out the end of the season unless he was comfortable with a number the Blazers said would be available.

I guess the only counterpoint could be if some team contacts his agent with an even larger offer or similar money but it seems like a better destination. I think Grant appears to like Portland, but he might not enjoy the winter weather, or the uncertainty of Dame's commitment here long term, or who knows what else.

If Grant leaves it would be pretty devastating. Getting effectively nothing from CJ as well as having traded away the opportunity to draft Jalen Duren.

Now I hear what some posters are saying in that Grant on a huge contract might be poor value. That is a more fair point if the Blazers trade Dame; as if they still want to win with him there's just no way to get a legit starting group with Grant gone.

 

[Strenuus]

during my hypothetical life I've bedded Sophia Loren, Natalie Wood, Tuesday Weld, Raquel Welch, Farrah Fawcett, and Rosario Dawson. I've also won the lottery 5 times, inherited a 400,000 acre ranch, and flown my jet to Iceland and Fiji. My wife adored me and never complained and my kids never talked back. Weeds didn't grow in my garden either and I never gained weight

my hypothetical life has been great!

Rosario Dawson is criminally underrated.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

He continued his dad's proud tradition of meh-ness in Portland

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I was pleasantly surprised. He’s a great 3rd player on a squad.

Only if that squad has two HOF players ahead of him. Or if we have a different definition of "great".

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Josh Hart contributed far more to winning games this season than Jerami Grant - prove me wrong.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

He continued his dad's proud tradition of meh-ness in Portland

So who isn't meh on the Blazers right now?

Obviously Dame. But I don't see anyone else on Grants level.

Ant is only helpful on offense. Sharpe is a few years away. Nurk has more shortcomings on offense and similar mixed bag defensively, but way more injury prone.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

So who isn't meh on the Blazers right now?

Obviously Dame. But I don't see anyone else on Grants level.

Ant is only helpful on offense. Sharpe is a few years away. Nurk has more shortcomings on offense and similar mixed bag defensively, but way more injury prone.

I see someone who just wasn't that great on defense and was pretty replaceable on offense, and who is likely to be paid a King's ransom. Show me some stats that prove that Grant was better than the league average in anything other than raw points (which was a side-effect of being fed the ball).

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Josh Hart contributed far more to winning games this season than Jerami Grant - prove me wrong.

3pt % and being a secondary offensive creator were two important areas Grant was much better.

I really liked Hart, but he had many flaws as well. I'd have kept both if I was trying to win with Dame.

Both can be part of a contending 8 man rotation. Neither can be one of your two best players.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I see someone who just wasn't that great on defense and was pretty replaceable on offense, and who is likely to be paid a King's ransom. Show me some stats that prove that Grant was better than the league average in anything other than raw points (which was a side-effect of being fed the ball).

His efficiency was phenomenal half way through the year when the Blazers were trying.

Show me stats that prove he's meh?

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

during my hypothetical life I've bedded Sophia Loren, Natalie Wood, Tuesday Weld, Raquel Welch, Farrah Fawcett, and Rosario Dawson. I've also won the lottery 5 times, inherited a 400,000 acre ranch, and flown my jet to Iceland and Fiji. My wife adored me and never complained and my kids never talked back. Weeds didn't grow in my garden either and I never gained weight

my hypothetical life has been great!

Nice list but can’t believe you left out Ann Margaret.

 

[wizenheimer]

Nice list but can’t believe you left out Ann Margaret.

I was talking about hypothetical partners, not real life ones

 

[Mediocre Man]

during my hypothetical life I've bedded Sophia Loren, Natalie Wood, Tuesday Weld, Raquel Welch, Farrah Fawcett, and Rosario Dawson. I've also won the lottery 5 times, inherited a 400,000 acre ranch, and flown my jet to Iceland and Fiji. My wife adored me and never complained and my kids never talked back. Weeds didn't grow in my garden either and I never gained weight

my hypothetical life has been great!

Not sure what that has to do with this, but hypothetically, I’m happy for you

 

[Mediocre Man]

I don’t know, but it does look like it’s mainly small market teams that have a problem turning draft picks into contenders. There’s no certainty either in a reload or a rebuild.

But there is in a reboot or rerun

 

[THE HCP]

"Well I guess it could have been worse."

Trust me when I tell you, that the forum as a whole feels the same way after reading each and every one of your posts.

 

[e_blazer]

But there is in a reboot or rerun

https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/14...-remakes-that-crashed-and-burned/2900-3762/#2