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All you have to do Denny is watch it and decide for yourself. To me, and anyone I know who has seen this version, it is obvious he gets hit from the front.

Who are you going to believe, some forensic pathologist, or your own eyes?

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The forensic pathologist.

If you watch the Nova program, they explain the backward movement by JFK after getting shot as his brain getting scrambled sent impulses to all his muscles which contracted. The back muscles are stronger than the front ones, so he jerked backwards.

When they look at his actual skull and see only evidence of him being shot from behind, then the film is fooling you.
 
BTW, this photo is JFK Exhibit F-302 from the House Subcommittee on Assassinations evidence file.

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"Drawing representing one of the brain photographs from JFK's post-mortem examination and held in the National Archives."

Sure looks like the bullet destroyed the right side of his brain and front to back, not from the side as in a grassy knoll type shot.
 
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Here is the hole in his shirt, note how much lower it is than his throat. For the bullet to have gone from there to his throat he'd have to be leaning way forward, and the film doesn't show that.

And Denny, your little rant about "witness memory" is a very weak argument, because Connally's recollection coincides with the Zapruder film.
 
The forensic pathologist.

If you watch the Nova program, they explain the backward movement by JFK after getting shot as his brain getting scrambled sent impulses to all his muscles which contracted. The back muscles are stronger than the front ones, so he jerked backwards.

When they look at his actual skull and see only evidence of him being shot from behind, then the film is fooling you.

That is so strained as to defy logic.

"Brain contraction" cannot overcome the laws of physics. You get you head blasted off from the front and you fall backwards, period. Especially at that velocity.

If I got shot in the arm, there is no way my arm muscles overcome the power of a sniper rifle.

Brain scrambles. Comeon.
 
That is so strained as to defy logic.

"Brain contraction" cannot overcome the laws of physics. You get you head blasted off from the front and you fall backwards, period. Especially at that velocity.

If I got shot in the arm, there is no way my arm muscles overcome the power of a sniper rifle.

Brain scrambles. Comeon.

No offense, but the M.D. says it does, and you (not an M.D.) say it doesn't.

Why should I believe you?
 
In the documentaries they used to show every 5 years (1978, 83, 88, etc.) there were forensic pathologists and M.D.s galore saying that it couldn't possibly have been Oswald alone.

But now your guy, age 42, born 8 years after the assassination, examines what he admits looks like new clothes. Gee, I wonder which agency this doctor works with part-time. I wonder which one you do.
 
Denny, why don't you explain your single bullet theory to JOE PESCI!!!
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Pesci is a trained medical examiner?
 
Pesci is a trained medical examiner?

No, and the army doctors at Bethesda Hospital had never done a forensic examination before, and were ordered to not fully examine the body (they did not dissect the wounds to the back or neck for example.

The guy who took the autopsy pictures at the hospital testified that he did not take the pictures that are currently in the national archives.
 
Years ago I read a book by a lead surgeon who tried to revive Kennedy. The surgeon told of many suspicious things going on before, during, and after the surgery. He felt the government had killed him. Here's an article from last week about another surgeon in the room. These are doctors who were there, not some clown born 8 years later.

As 50th Anniversary Of Assassination Approaches, Surgeon Who Treated JFK*Remembers

...Dr. McClelland says that he always believed the wound at the back of President Kennedy’s head was the exit wound. But it wasn’t until years later, when he saw the famous Abraham Zapruder video on television, that the doctor became convinced of it.

“That firmed up my thought that it was the exit wound,” he says, pointing to the backwards motion of the President’s body after he was shot, as well as the size of the hole in the back of JFK’s skull, as proof he was shot from the front.

He also says that in the heat of the moment, some of Kennedy’s wounds weren’t visible to everyone working on him, which may explain the conflicting testimony from medical staff following the assassination.

And like many, Dr. McClelland has struggled to fill in the blanks about the details of the assassination himself. He frequently references one book “of the 32,000 out there” on the event – JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, by James W. Douglass, which argues that military and intelligence agencies in the U.S. are responsible for President Kennedy’s assassination and the subsequent cover-up. According to Douglass, those organizations were upset by JFK’s evolving stance on the Cold War and, desperate to win, they plotted Kennedy’s death because he was “getting in the way” of their plans for a nuclear strike.

For McClelland, that book seems to offer answers to the questions he’s been grappling with over the last fifty years – in particular, why his colleague, Dr. Perry, who also treated the President that day, would never speak of the assassination (“If you ever even mentioned the assassination [to Dr. Perry], he would cloud up and say, ‘I don’t talk about that,’ period.”) If you take Douglass at his word, a Secret Service agent approached Perry shortly after he’d given a description of JFK’s wounds to the media – when he’d pointed to his neck and seemed to imply that the entrance wound was there. That agent supposedly threatened Perry, ordering him never to talk about the assassination again…”or else,” Dr. McClelland emphasizes.

...He is, however, sure of some things: There were at least two shooters (“absolutely”) and the assassination was likely a conspiracy involving government “elements.”

McClelland is not alone in his beliefs. A recent Gallup poll showed 61% of Americans still believe others besides Lee Harvey Oswald were involved in JFK’s assassination – whether it’s the CIA, Fidel Castro and the Cubans or organized crime groups such as the mafia. Most don’t believe a lone shooter could have inflicted wounds consistent with those that killed the President. And a House committee even corroborated those views in a 1979 investigation, officially concluding it was “highly probable” that Kennedy was killed by at least two shooters, most likely “as a result of a conspiracy.”

But despite the release of thousands of documents in the 1990s related to the assassination, many remain classified, not to be unsealed for years – if ever. “Now why do you think that is?” Dr. McClelland asks wryly.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...approaches-surgeon-who-treated-jfk-remembers/
 
Awesome. So now we have an M.D. testifying about ballistics.

Nuts.
 
You held the President's head in your hands? What is your expertise?
 
You held the President's head in your hands? What is your expertise?

I'm not giving any first hand expert opinion.

I'm not telling you to look at the film and use your inexpert and untrained eye to evaluate it.

What I am telling you is that a forensic neurosurgeon looked at the skull and says the conspiracy theories are full of shit. HE is the expert. It's not just one of these CSI guys, it's every single one that has examined the evidence and who's not writing a book to get rich.
 
Awesome. So now we have an M.D. testifying about ballistics.

Nuts.

Come on, I know you're not that simple minded.

He's talking about what he saw first hand. I would love to see the real "ballistics" of this case, but unfortuneatly a proper autopsy was NOT performed on the President.

We also can't examine the damage done to he limo. Could it be because if we had all that evidence it would undermine the single bullet theory?

Several witnesses saw a bullet hole through the front of the windshield. How does that fit into the SBT??? Also lots of witnesses found more bullets all over Dealy Plaza, which does not fit in at all with the SBT.
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It's not just one of these CSI guys, it's every single one that has examined the evidence and who's not writing a book to get rich.

It's the first one I've ever heard of. Please provide the list, with credentials you checked before you posted that sentence.

As for your conspiracy theory that conspiracy theorists are motivated by money to be conspiracy theorists--so you're saying some agency pays you to state that conspiracy theory. Do they pay you to draw out people on your message board who disagree with them?
 
Come on, I know you're not that simple minded.

He's talking about what he saw first hand. I would love to see the real "ballistics" of this case, but unfortuneatly a proper autopsy was NOT performed on the President.

We also can't examine the damage done to he limo. Could it be because if we had all that evidence it would undermine the single bullet theory?

Several witnesses saw a bullet hole through the front of the windshield. How does that fit into the SBT??? Also lots of witnesses found more bullets all over Dealy Plaza, which does not fit in at all with the SBT.
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When the CSI guys reenact the scene as it was, the results are the same. Magic bullet and all.

Ballistics.

And Teague is one of those guys trying to get rich off the conspiracy theory industry.
 
Someone is good enough at video editing.

The actual crack in the windshield:

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Was not a hole.

Carry on.
 
E. Howard Hunt confessed. Carry on.

Your card to play next is, "His son forced him, so the son could make big bucks selling a few dozen VCR tapes at $10 bucks each. The son lives in hiding now."
 
Well jlprk, you know we can't trust Hunt's testimony . . . he too is not a forensic pathologist!

But I agree, it was a Coup d'état. There are far too many CIA fingerprints all over the thing.
 
Well jlprk, you know we can't trust Hunt's testimony . . . he too is not a forensic pathologist!

But I agree, it was a Coup d'état. There are far too many CIA fingerprints all over the thing.

Who is hunt? A liar, thief, criminal, and traitor. Yeah, he's believable.
 
Who is hunt? A liar, thief, criminal, and traitor. Yeah, he's believable.

Speaking of unbelievable liars, criminals, and traitors, everyone who was at least 8 years old remembers what he was doing when he heard the President had been assassinated...except Big Bush, who has always said he forgot. Pictures show someone looking like him among the hobos in suits who mysteriously emerged from the train tracks a few yards from Dealey Plaza, and then hustled off to escape cameras.
 
Speaking of unbelievable liars, criminals, and traitors, everyone who was at least 8 years old remembers what he was doing when he heard the President had been assassinated...except Big Bush, who has always said he forgot. Pictures show someone looking like him among the hobos in suits who mysteriously emerged from the train tracks a few yards from Dealey Plaza, and then hustled off to escape cameras.

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George Bush dressed like a Hobo.
 
If the majority of people think he didn't act alone if at all, aren't the "Oswald did it" people the conspiratists?
 
tin foil hat wearing nut jobs, better remove all your fillings
 
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George Bush dressed like a Hobo.

I've seen a clearer picture front-on of a different man than that. Yours doesn't look like him.

But let's look at yours. Does that man, standing proudly straight up, look like a disheveled hobo or a neat businessman CIA type? The mysterious hobos walked away with brisk military order and were never seen again.
 

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