Jimmy Butler wants out? (He does.)

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He’s just proving Butlers point.
Let's say you work for a company whose owner gives you a long term commitment after promising to get rid of a toxic coworker. You also have a biased manager who sides with that coworker and lets him emasculate you in public and in front of all the other employees. You also are stuck in this situation.

I wouldn't give a shit either. Fuck all this bullshit bravado. A shitty work environment leads to lack of productivity, not sure why it would be any different in the NBA.
 
He’s just proving Butlers point.
Well it sounds like KAT wouldnt of signed but he thought Jimmy would be gone. Thibs and Butler should both be gone but Glen doesnt want to pay Thibs and Thibs doesnt want to trade Jimmy. So they’ll continue to under perform, because from the top down bad leadership.
 
Let's say you work for a company whose owner gives you a long term commitment after promising to get rid of a toxic coworker. You also have a biased manager who sides with that coworker and lets him emasculate you in public and in front of all the other employees. You also are stuck in this situation.

I wouldn't give a shit either. Fuck all this bullshit bravado. A shitty work environment leads to lack of productivity, not sure why it would be any different in the NBA.

How did it get shitty in the first place? You think Butler started calling KAT out for no reason? Just look at the history of players Butler has evidently had a problem with. Sure, the way he’s handled it (going public) was wrong but there’s probably some underlying truth there as well. KAT isn’t innocent.
 
How did it get shitty in the first place? You think Butler started calling KAT out for no reason? Just look at the history of players Butler has evidently had a problem with. Sure, the way he’s handled it (going public) was wrong but there’s probably some underlying truth there as well. KAT isn’t innocent.
And Butler's motivation isn't all that noble either. He wanted to get the designated supermax extension and Minny didn't make the moves necessary to make that happen, so he threw a tantrum and got on his soapbox about working hard and love for the game. I see right through his bullshit.
 
And Butler's motivation isn't all that noble either. He wanted to get the designated supermax extension and Minny didn't make the moves necessary to make that happen, so he threw a tantrum and got on his soapbox about working hard and love for the game. I see right through his bullshit.
Butler did this because he wants something he isn't even eligible for?
 
And Butler's motivation isn't all that noble either. He wanted to get the designated supermax extension and Minny didn't make the moves necessary to make that happen, so he threw a tantrum and got on his soapbox about working hard and love for the game. I see right through his bullshit.

Butler said he asked for a trade right after the season, privately. I don’t see how that’s unprofessional. I believe him too because Minnesota still hasn’t done shit after he asked a second time and it went public.
 
Butler did this because he wants something he isn't even eligible for?
Smart move by Wolves as his value is going up since he went public couple months back. If I was the Wolves no way I trade him when he requested it, it would have to be on teams term's.
 
Smart move by Wolves as his value is going up since he went public couple months back. If I was the Wolves no way I trade him when he requested it, it would have to be on teams term's.

you sure?
 
I think that I would consider a trade of CJ for Jimmy and a swap of 2019 first round selections (Portland's option) and if Jimmy does not sign next year with the Blazers, Twolves add a 2nd round pick to Portland.

Then my starting line-up would be Dame, Stauskus, Butler, Aminu, Nurkic
 
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Story posting soon: The Houston Rockets are making a renewed bid to acquire Minnesota All-Star Jimmy Butler, including four future first-round draft picks in their most recent trade offer, league sources tell ESPN.
 
Makes sense. It looks like Minnesota won’t be competitive even with him on the team so they will probably wait until a desperate team pay a good price.

A lot of assets will become available after Dec 15 too. For example Clippers would be able to offer them Avery Bradley in a deal.
 
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Story posting soon: The Houston Rockets are making a renewed bid to acquire Minnesota All-Star Jimmy Butler, including four future first-round draft picks in their most recent trade offer, league sources tell ESPN.

I don’t know what they’re offering, doesn’t matter, we could top it if we had a GM with balls.

Olshey should be all in anyway. He’s probably gone when the new ownership takes over.

Oh look, the CJ ISO show starts in twenty minutes. See ya guys!
 
Makes sense. It looks like Minnesota won’t be competitive even with him on the team so they will probably wait until a desperate team pay a good price.

A lot of assets will become available after Dec 15 too. For example Clippers would be able to offer them Avery Bradley in a deal.
I know it's a small sample size but Avery Bradley is making a strong case for worst player in the league so far.
 
Harden, CP3 and Butler together?? If it works then the draft picks will be very late 1st round picks, But would it work? How could it in that offense?
 
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Story posting soon: The Houston Rockets are making a renewed bid to acquire Minnesota All-Star Jimmy Butler, including four future first-round draft picks in their most recent trade offer, league sources tell ESPN.
I REALLY hope Houston does not get Butler.

I dislike the Rockets more than any other team. If they do land Butler, I hope CP3 immediately gets injured and Harden/Butler don't get along so that Butler leaves at the end of the year.
 
My question is what are the protections of those firsts? If it’s limited as reported, Houston is mortgaging their future. There’s so much risk involved that you have to respect Morey for it. I don’t think Houston can beat Golden State, even with Butler, but they’ll get a lot closer than anyone else, at least in the West. He makes up for some of the defense they lost in the offseason (ariza) and more importantly gives them another legit scorer. But if they can’t re-sign him....man.
 
My question is what are the protections of those firsts? If it’s limited as reported, Houston is mortgaging their future. There’s so much risk involved that you have to respect Morey for it. I don’t think Houston can beat Golden State, even with Butler, but they’ll get a lot closer than anyone else, at least in the West. He makes up for some of the defense they lost in the offseason (ariza) and more importantly gives them another legit scorer. But if they can’t re-sign him....man.
Along with the picks if they give up Tucker their front line takes another hit considering they use him as a big man most of the time. If they trade Gordon that hurts their outside shooting and their bench. If both are included with picks I'm not so sure they get that much better.

I'm in no way saying that Gordon or Tucker are close to Butler, they aren't, but for what Houston tries to do it's not that much of a step up in my opinion.
 
I don’t know what they’re offering, doesn’t matter, we could top it if we had a GM with balls.

Olshey should be all in anyway. He’s probably gone when the new ownership takes over.

Oh look, the CJ ISO show starts in twenty minutes. See ya guys!

Cj is damn near 50-40-90

He’s not a point guard worry about Lillard making all the passes
 
That’s a really stupid offer from Houston. I don’t understand why they’re going all in while the warriors are starting 5 superstars. And Chris Paul is not a guy that I would be hanging my hopes and dreams on. Adding Butler won’t win them a championship. Apparently they didn’t learn from Brooklyn.
 
That’s a really stupid offer from Houston. I don’t understand why they’re going all in while the warriors are starting 5 superstars. And Chris Paul is not a guy that I would be hanging my hopes and dreams on. Adding Butler won’t win them a championship. Apparently they didn’t learn from Brooklyn.

4 draft picks until 2025 won't win them a championship. They were damn close to beating the warriors last year. Adding Butler greatly increases their chances. I'd still pick GS, but we've seen Curry or Durant have major injuries, that could easily happen then Houston would be favorites. I'd go for the trade if I was their GM. It would have a ton of downside risk and could look terrible in a few years. Or it could help them beat GS. I'd be happy to watch either happen.
 
4 draft picks until 2025 won't win them a championship. They were damn close to beating the warriors last year. Adding Butler greatly increases their chances. I'd still pick GS, but we've seen Curry or Durant have major injuries, that could easily happen then Houston would be favorites. I'd go for the trade if I was their GM. It would have a ton of downside risk and could look terrible in a few years. Or it could help them beat GS. I'd be happy to watch either happen.
They almost beat GS but have lost Ariza, Mbah A Moute, and whoever they have to give up in a Butler trade.

Butler is an iso player that thrives creating for himself, which he is pretty dang good at. In Houston's offense he'd have to he more of a spot up shooter which he isn't quite as good at. I'm not saying it wouldn't work but it isn't a slam dunk to be great either.
 

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