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Apparently she said some racist things about Asians on The View. I understand maybe commenting about it, but:
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To top it off, he used the ETHER beat; to make a low quality diss like this. SMH.
 
lol Jin tried to Ether Rosie O' Donnell. What a joke.
 
Lol, I'm so out of rap (or hip hop), I've never heard of Ether.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Omarion Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lol, I'm so out of rap (or hip hop), I've never heard of Ether.</div>

And I've never heard of Jin...
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But whatever the case is, Rosie O'Donnel's comments weren't in the slightest bit racist.

Is this guy a serious artist? I love how little talent it takes to get into the 'rap game' these days.
 
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But whatever the case is, Rosie O'Donnel's comments weren't in the slightest bit racist.</div>
I hope you're kidding.

I think the track was more of a joke than anything on his part. Didn't really seem like he tried on it. Still funny nonetheless.
 
Hahahahaha, I dont like Jin, but this was great. Anything dissing Rosie O'Donnel is great in my mind. Love how he sampled Trump in there too.
 
<div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I hope you're kidding.

I think the track was more of a joke than anything on his part. Didn't really seem like he tried on it. Still funny nonetheless.</div>

From what I heard, they weren't racist.

She was jokingly imitating the Chineese language by saying "ching chong ching chang," etc. That's her joking about a nation's language, not in any way disrespecting a race. In fact, to assume that a Chineese person could not be, say, Caucasian, is more racist than O'Donnel's comments themselves.

People just like to get sympathy and exploit their minority status for their own advantage too often.

Rosie O'Donnel is still a fat, annoying <font color=""Black"">cun</font><font color=""Black"">t</font> though.
 
I think what she said wasn't intended to be racist, but it was. Is Rosie O'Donnel a racist? No (well not that I know of), but her comments will definatley offend Asian people.
 
OT somewhat but anybody remember Jin on 106:

"Check your Timbs, they probably say Made in China"

Oh, man I'll never forget that moment.
 
She was joking about how Oriental languages sound funny by generalizing it into "ching chong ching chang." That's racist/racially insensitive/tasteless (whatever you want to call it). She probably isn't racist, but the bottom line is she probably deserved more of a reaction.
 
I still don't get how it's racist. That's presuming that only Oriental's speak Chineese, and even if you want to jump to that conclusion, how is doing an impression of a language you don't speak by mimicing its phonemes racist?

So everytime I mimic a French or Englishman, I'm racist?

But okay, keep browsing over my posts.
 
There is a double standard for every other race that isn't white. Every thing a white person does is considered racist. If whites make fun of asians, blacks, arabs, hispanics, any other race, it's racists. Yet, if black people make fun of whites, it's ok. If Asian's make fun of whites, it's ok.

You people are completely overreacting, I hate Rosie O'Donnell, but what she did was no where near racist. It was a joke. Get over it. If you people are upset over this, you should be upset over your lives.

EDIT: For the record, I'm half Arab, half Latin.
 
I do get offended if someone comes up to me and says "yo doggg lets go play some b ball homieee!", but it's different when somebody is on TV joking about it because its their job to be funny.
 
No I read your post, but I still don't agree. Just because you can find an uncommon, but probably likely, circumstance doesn't mean the presence of race can be dismissed. Now you are right in believing that she was mocking a language not a race, but (1) the fact is that the countries are inhabited by and the language is spoken by an overwhelming majority of East Asians and (2) her joke was built on a commonly known stereotype that always mocks Orientals.

Anyways, I don't like getting into the details of what is racist and what isn't. It makes people too sensitive. However, there's the other extreme where people will downplay the presence of race or an insult whenever possible. Bottom line is that O'Donnel probably wasn't impersonating a Caucasian East Asian with that tired old joke. People have a right to respond to her and question her motivation.


EDIT: Mamba, I hear your complaint a lot and really doesn't make sense in this situation. A black person doing that joke probably would've elicited a similar reaction. People don't like to hear jokes that target their race by people who aren't of their race. That's not a double standard, because it applies to white people too.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No I read your post, but I still don't agree. Just because you can find an uncommon, but probably likely, circumstance doesn't mean the presence of race can be dismissed. Now you are right in believing that she was mocking a language not a race, but (1) the fact is that the countries are inhabited by and the language is spoken by an overwhelming majority of East Asians and (2) her joke was built on a commonly known stereotype that always mocks Orientals.

Anyways, I don't like getting into the details of what is racist and what isn't. It makes people too sensitive. However, there's the other extreme where people will downplay the presence of race or an insult whenever possible. Bottom line is that O'Donnel probably wasn't impersonating a Caucasian East Asian with that tired old joke. People have a right to respond to her and question her motivation.</div>

There's a huge difference between a person's race and their language. Different languages use different phonemes, which are basically, in simplified terms, the smallest contrastive units in the sound system of a language. Making fun of the language's phonemes does not in any way, shape, or form qualify as a racist comment.
 
I think we both know that the term racist is no longer used in the strict sense and can also imply attacks on culture. Race and language are both apart of culture. Like I said before, the joke could be interpreted as a joke about anyone who speaks a Oriental and that's can't really be traced to a specific culture or race. But the fact that almost all people who speak the language are of East Asian heritage and the joke itself has almost always targeted Orientals points to a specific group.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think we both know that the term racist is no longer used in the strict sense and can also imply attacks on culture. Race and language are both apart of culture. Like I said before, the joke could be interpreted as a joke about anyone who speaks a Oriental and that's can't really be traced to a specific culture or race. But the fact that almost all people who speak the language are of East Asian heritage and the joke itself has almost always targeted Orientals points to a specific group.</div>

That's only the interpretation of the uptight assholes, who like I said in my above post just like to get sympathy and exploit their minority status for their own advantage.

It's really beside the point though, because what she was saying was that Danny DeVito's appearance on The View was being seen worldwide. Her comments were not in the least bit biting or critical. She simply mocked the Chineese phonemes, which have no racial ties whatsoever.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's only the interpretation of the uptight assholes, who like I said in my above post just like to get sympathy and exploit their minority status for their own advantage.

It's really beside the point though, because what she was saying was that Danny DeVito's appearance on The View was being seen worldwide. Her comments were not in the least bit biting or critical. She simply mocked the Chineese phonemes, which have no racial ties whatsoever.</div>
Remember in Yao's rookie season when Shaq did the same thing and had Chinese people protesting outside the Compaq Center at the Lakers/Rockets game? There were even press conferences before the game from the Chinese community pressing for Shaq's apology.

I personally thought that what she said was just meant to be funny, but to consider that an entire race could be enraged over this, I don't think she should have said anything like that at all.
 
Nah dude, that's the interpretation of people who are realistic about how the world is these days. Race in the strict sense is meaning less and less, with interracial marriages, globalization, etc, etc. You compared this issue to me mocking the language of English, but that makes no sense since English is a global language now (it has no specific home). However, if I mockingly use English in a way that is clearly targeting a certain cultural group, then it can be considered racism. For example, if I speak the English language in a hillbilly-ish way, a person from the Southern USA would probably accuse me of racism/racial insensitivity/stereotyping, etc. I could use your excuse, saying that by presupposing that only white people talk like that he's being racist, but there's a precedent behind the joke and it combines language, race, and location to make fun of a certain culture. There's no word like culture-ism, so racism nowadays implies cultural attacks too.

I don't know why you have an axe to grind against reverse racism or "minority's exploiting their status for an advantage," but (1) it's not relevant in this situation and (2) what advantage do you see coming from this reaction? If it results in the ability to watch talk shows and not be subjected to pre-school jokes about how Orientals are different, then that's not an advantage, that's equality.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nah dude, that's the interpretation of people who are realistic about how the world is these days. Race in the strict sense is meaning less and less, with interracial marriages, globalization, etc, etc. You compared this issue to me mocking the language of English, but that makes no sense since English is a global language now (it has no specific home). However, if I mockingly use English in a way that is clearly targeting a certain cultural group, then it can be considered racism. For example, if I speak the English language in a hillbilly-ish way, a person from the Southern USA would probably accuse me of racism/racial insensitivity/stereotyping, etc. I could use your excuse, saying that by presupposing that only white people talk like that he's being racist, but there's a precedent behind the joke and it combines language, race, and location to make fun of a certain culture. There's no word like culture-ism, so racism nowadays implies cultural attacks too.

I don't know why you have an axe to grind against reverse racism or "minority's exploiting their status for an advantage," but (1) it's not relevant in this situation and (2) what advantage do you see coming from this reaction? If it results in the ability to watch talk shows and not be subjected to pre-school jokes about how Orientals are different, then that's not an advantage, that's equality.</div>

If you spoke with a hillbilly-ish accent, it'd be racist?
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Yes, it is completely relevant, because this joke of a rapper decided to spend a few hours of his time writing a "diss track" about Rosie O'Donnel. That's what this subject is all about. How's that not relevant?

And you're still missing the point bro'.

You say racism/stereotyping/this/that... you can't keep putting slashes in there. There's a distinct difference between racism and stereotyping. Yes, what Rosie O'Donnel did was stereotyping, but it was not in the least bit racist.

(By the way, the English language is just as much inherently Caucasian as the Chineese language is inherently Oriental.)
 
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If you spoke with a hillbilly-ish accent, it'd be racist?
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Yes, it is completely relevant, because this joke of a rapper decided to spend a few hours of his time writing a "diss track" about Rosie O'Donnel. That's what this subject is all about. How's that not relevant?

And you're still missing the point bro'.

You say racism/stereotyping/this/that... you can't keep putting slashes in there. There's a distinct difference between racism and stereotyping. Yes, what Rosie O'Donnel did was stereotyping, but it was not in the least bit racist.

(By the way, the English language is just as much inherently Caucasian as the Chineese language is inherently Oriental.)</div>
Racial sterotyping is basically just a form of racism.
 
<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Racial sterotyping is basically just a form of racism.</div>

Not really.

Look at this specific case.

O'Donnel stereotyped all Asians as speaking with the phonemes resembling the sounds "Ching chang chong, etc." That's a true, factual stereotype, and it has not basis on race.

Her point was completely, 100% to make referrence to the globalization of the show, not to insult a race.

Still not remotely racist...
 
heard about this yesterday......Jin should just dissappear.
 
Yeah, I didn't find her comments offensive at all. It's not like she was insulting them or anything. She pretended to speak in Chinese but what she was pretending to say wasn't degrading at all.

As far as the diss track goes, wow. That's just pathetic.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Not really.

Look at this specific case.

O'Donnel stereotyped all Asians as speaking with the phonemes resembling the sounds "Ching chang chong, etc." That's a true, factual stereotype, and it has not basis on race.

Her point was completely, 100% to make referrence to the globalization of the show, not to insult a race.

Still not remotely racist...</div>
I guess your right. Either way it's still stupid to say something like she did on TV. If she really wants to mock Asian people she should do it directly.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, I didn't find her comments offensive at all.</div>
Well of course you wouldn't because your not Asian.
 
<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I guess your right. Either way it's still stupid to say something like she did on TV. If she really wants to mock Asian people she should do it directly.</div>

Oh, no doubt.

Like I said earlier, Rosie O'Donnel is still an annoying <font color=""DarkSlateGray"">c</font>unt.
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<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well of course you wouldn't because your not Asian.</div>

I was saying I didn't think they were bad enough to offend someone.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I was saying I didn't think they were bad enough to offend someone.</div>
It was pretty offensive. I get pissed off when people do that to me, because Chinese sounds nowhere like "Ching Chong Ching chong ching".

But this is just a joke though, just like "Around The World" by RHCP.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
But this is just a joke though, just like "Around The World" by RHCP.</div>

That's not a joke actually... not mocking language... it's a signature skat by Kiedis.
 
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