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Denny Crane said:
My thinking is if he helps you get playoff experience for the young guys, it's worth it. I'm not sold on Plumlee being a full time starter over the long term, so it wouldn't be keeping someone from needed development minutes.

Plus I saw him play last year, and he is not washed up.
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Yeah I really doubt it we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

It would be interesting too because Noah's entire $13mil contract would come out of the pockets of his new teammates since we are below the salary floor.
 
Draco said:
Yeah I really doubt it we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

It would be interesting too because Noah's entire $13mil contract would come out of the pockets of his new teammates since we are below the salary floor.
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Well, I hope and expect that to change if we have a chance to acquire a player that improves our chances by the trade deadline. Be it Noah or someone else. I'm reasonably sure Noah is there for the asking. Not sure who else will be there.
 
Getting Noah for nothing is a good plan J.
Getting Noah and a 1st rounder is a good plan E (for Montero, for example)
Getting Cousins is a good plan A.
Not doing anything and getting zero use from our capspace this year is not a good plan at all!

Some in this thread are ignoring the last one entirely.
 
B-Roy said:
I'd do it just to liberate Noah from the smelly undersides of the Bulls.

But seriously, wouldn't the Bulls rather dump Taj?
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Don't be surprised if they BOTH go (most likely split the 2 to different teams). Portis IS legit, young, skilled, tough, cheap, etc. & to serve as a backup, they can easily find a young HEALTHY guy for cheap:wink:

IF we do them this HUGE favor, I hope just shedding Noah would be enough to bring us Doug! BUT IF it takes moving Noah AND Taj... I say STILL do it for McBuh-buh-buh-BUCKETS!:blazerwookie:
 
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Denny Crane said:
I don't think his health is the issue for the Bulls. Hoiberg's offense is meant for stretch 4/5 types and Noah is definitely not one of those. Nor are any of the Blazers' centers.
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What about Meyers? Shaky start to the season aside, he sounds like a good fit. If we're bringing in a big, we'd have to free up space by moving one... And it would be a homecoming of sorts for Meyers. We'd be giving up a young prospect, though, so what could Chicago sweeten the pot with?
 
handiman said:
What about Meyers? Shaky start to the season aside, he sounds like a good fit. If we're bringing in a big, we'd have to free up space by moving one... And it would be a homecoming of sorts for Meyers. We'd be giving up a young prospect, though, so what could Chicago sweeten the pot with?
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I think the Bulls would love Meyers, or maybe not. They're already deep at PF/C. What they want is less salary and that means they probably don't want Meyers'.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Getting Noah for nothing is a good plan J.
Getting Noah and a 1st rounder is a good plan E (for Montero, for example)
Getting Cousins is a good plan A.
Not doing anything and getting zero use from our capspace this year is not a good plan at all!

Some in this thread are ignoring the last one entirely.
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Good way of thinking about it. Yeah Noah as a player has value; I'd certainly love to sign him if he were a free agent available for the minimum. I shouldn't have said he was zero value; he is nearly zero long term but still more than nothing. But we'll have to see what other offers are out there. I'd hate to trade for Noah then the 6ers get multiple first round picks for their cap space.
 
handiman said:
What about Meyers? Shaky start to the season aside, he sounds like a good fit. If we're bringing in a big, we'd have to free up space by moving one... And it would be a homecoming of sorts for Meyers. We'd be giving up a young prospect, though, so what could Chicago sweeten the pot with?
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Yeah maybe if we get McBuckets for taking on Noah we give them Meyers.
 
Noah with his knees isn't going to last many more years in the league before he retires...If he were in his prime and would stay I'd be all for it.
 
I feel like I am in Bizarro World. For the last couple of years I talked about getting Noah and dealing RoLo and Batum to fill another spot, because I thought Noah defensively was superior to Lopez in almost every way, a better offensive player, too, and was as good a passing big as there was in the NBA. I think it was my first post here and the response was "That's just stupid."

Now everyone wants to trade for him as his career winds down, all he would do is take time from young players we basically are trying out and potentially takes us out of a lottery pick with no chance of going anywhere in the playoffs if we even make it there.

It's like the Twilight Zone. No. No. No. No. No.
 
PCmor7 said:
I feel like I am in Bizarro World. For the last couple of years I talked about getting Noah and dealing RoLo and Batum to fill another spot, because I thought Noah defensively was superior to Lopez in almost every way, a better offensive player, too, and was as good a passing big as there was in the NBA. I think it was my first post here and the response was "That's just stupid."

Now everyone wants to trade for him as his career winds down, all he would do is take time from young players we basically are trying out and potentially takes us out of a lottery pick with no chance of going anywhere in the playoffs if we even make it there.

It's like the Twilight Zone. No. No. No. No. No.
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I get you here..if this was a contending team, yeah, the guy would fit. But as we are..I love the guy , but would have to pass unless it was for zip
 
These threads are always tough because, partially, people just look at adding him without reading the premise and say no. Other issue is, reading the premise, how exactly are we in the playoffs? Is our rotation of Plumlee and Meyers doing awesome up front, with a mix of Davis and Vonleh? Who knows.
That being said, for free, in a playoff push? Absolutely. I love Noah. Loved him at Florida, and loved his rookie year when veterans had to call him out, for calling THEM out, because he wanted to actually, you know, go all out. Peple thought he was an issue in the locker room super early, dude just wanted to win. Sure. I'll take 3 months of that, and see where we stand in the offseason. Especially at zero cost.
 
RR7 said:
These threads are always tough because, partially, people just look at adding him without reading the premise and say no. Other issue is, reading the premise, how exactly are we in the playoffs? Is our rotation of Plumlee and Meyers doing awesome up front, with a mix of Davis and Vonleh? Who knows.
That being said, for free, in a playoff push? Absolutely. I love Noah. Loved him at Florida, and loved his rookie year when veterans had to call him out, for calling THEM out, because he wanted to actually, you know, go all out. Peple thought he was an issue in the locker room super early, dude just wanted to win. Sure. I'll take 3 months of that, and see where we stand in the offseason. Especially at zero cost.
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That's the thing with me. I think a healthy Portland squad with Noah has a real shot to make the playoffs and to potentially catch lightning in a bottle and go far. Having two elite scorers along with some great garbage men/defenders like Davis, Noah, Al-Aminu, and Vonleh to an extent, combined with bigs like Meyers and Plumlee who can put double figures in points, alongside athletic, competent-at-defending scoring threats at wing with Henderson, Harkless, and potentially Crabbe leaves a lot of options. That would prove a deep lineup that can withstand some minor injuries save Lillard and C.J. missing extended time. I think there would be enough experienced talent and enough quality pieces to perhaps come together and really play well as soon as now. Is it worth blowing a chance at a lower end lottery pick to see just how good this team could become with a glue man defender with playoff experience working himself into the team's identity? It would be fun to follow.
 
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dviss1 said:
This is just a weird comment...

Not sure why you have so much hate for Noah, whether it's his hair or what, but I'd love to add him to the team.
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Just to be clear, I wasn't putting Noah on the same level as Hernandez, I was offering evidence that "well liked" and "philanthropic" aren't exactly conclusive evidence that one isn't a scumbag.

As for why so much hate? As if dipping one's frog legs in Swedish meatball gravy isn't enough...
 
I understand taking on Noah if we get something else of value that will actually be here after this year. But do we really want to give up our toughness at the SF position by adding "McBuckets"?

If you want someone to replace Aminu, Harkless and Crabbe, then that player needs to be a two way stud IMO
 
Without reading a single post, NO! Don't care that he's made the allstar team. I couldn't sit through even one blazers game watching that whiner and his ridiculous shooting form.
 
fryed247 said:
Without reading a single post, NO! Don't care that he's made the allstar team. I couldn't sit through even one blazers game watching that whiner and his ridiculous shooting form.
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If you think his shooting form is ridiculous....
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Denny Crane said:
We'd get him for NOTHING. Just taking his salary off their books to save them from paying the luxury tax.
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I cant read all 5 pages right now, but I am confused at the thought that we get him for nothing. Isnt the $13 mill a year something and then goes on our books? Yes I understand it still leaves us room, but that is not giving up nothing. That's giving up $13 mill a year that could be used in part to sign an all star to a max or something.
 
Orion Bailey said:
I cant read all 5 pages right now, but I am confused at the thought that we get him for nothing. Isnt the $13 mill a year something and then goes on our books? Yes I understand it still leaves us room, but that is not giving up nothing. That's giving up $13 mill a year that could be used in part to sign an all star to a max or something.
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It costs nothing to acquire him. You have to pay any player, obviously.
 
I wonder how Horford and Noah's relationship is. Would Al be more inclined to sign somewhere that was also bringing in his old college teammate?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I wonder how Horford and Noah's relationship is. Would Al be more inclined to sign somewhere that was also bringing in his old college teammate?
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It wouldn't hurt.

When healthy, even at his age, Noah is a lot better than what we have at C now. He could even make shots outside of 3' with that ugly shot of his. Not the past 2 years, though. He was definitely hurt, and he's been hurt most of his seasons in the league.
 
"Noah to Noah for the dunk!"
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Apparently Noah has told teammates he's "Done with the Bulls"

Have always loved Noah as a player (and maintained that, had we not "lucked into" the #1 pick that we used on Oden, we would've drafted him). Dunno if he's basically done because of injuries, but if not he's like Plumlee with defense, which is not bad at all.
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Been pumping the idea of Noah for a bit now. I feel like he can be our version of Bogut. A 25 mpg rim protector and passer who can be a vet presence. Would be huge for us.
And I bet he'd come for cheap. Relatively.
 
Denny Crane said:
It wouldn't hurt.

When healthy, even at his age, Noah is a lot better than what we have at C now. He could even make shots outside of 3' with that ugly shot of his. Not the past 2 years, though. He was definitely hurt, and he's been hurt most of his seasons in the league.
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If Noah is healthy, the prospect of adding him and Horford to this squad would be incredible.
 
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