JOE MADDON AND THE CUBS

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yankeesince59 said:
...we both thought this might happen.
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Yup, they were the first team that came to my mind when I heard he was leaving Tampa. It's good because the Rays will go back to being a complete joke now.
 
...yeah, and the Cubs will be a team to be reckoned with very soon.
 
Maddon seems to have a way with young teams, I think this will be a good fit.
 
...I think already have, hammer. I mean the Rays have recently lost a key player, as well as a very sharp GM and Coach...while the Cubs have one of the best farms in Baseball, they now also have one of the sharpest GMs and Coaches in Baseball...plus they have a new TV deal on the horizon.

...I think the Cubs will be in the WS within 5 years.
 
I definitely think it's an improvement over the Rays for sure, but I don't know if I'd say in the WS in 5 years...
 
...I actually think they'll be over .500 next year and be in the hunt for a PS berth.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I actually think they'll be over .500 next year and be in the hunt for a PS berth.
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Maddon is a great motivator for younger players Ron but unless they do something drastic during the off season I just don't think they have the players yet to compete.
 
Being over .500 and in the WS are two TOTALLY different things... getting to .500 might happen, but in the playoff hunt???
 
Hammerojustice said:
Being over .500 and in the WS are two TOTALLY different things... getting to .500 might happen, but in the playoff hunt???
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...hammer, I said I think they'd be "in the hunt" ...didn't say they'd actually make it, though it's possible. And I said I thought they might be in the WS within 5 years not NEXT year.

...and rick, the changes don't have to be drastic...they already have some young players who are paying dividends already and more on the way...they had 2 position players (Rizzo and Castro) on the All Star roster this year...and they got 2 very good players from the A's and Braves through trades...plus like I said, with a new TV deal coming it will give them more revenue to pursue more FAs.

...their record has improved each year since 2012 and I see no reason for the trend to stop.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I think already have, hammer. I mean the Rays have recently lost a key player, as well as a very sharp GM and Coach...while the Cubs have one of the best farms in Baseball, they now also have one of the sharpest GMs and Coaches in Baseball...plus they have a new TV deal on the horizon.

...I think the Cubs will be in the WS within 5 years.
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With Maddon and Epstein, grooming farm talent, with perhaps a FA here or there only. Build a team from the ground up.....not a problem.

I can foresee such a Team to be in the Series in 5 years, just like I've been stating over and over, look out for the Astro's in 2017. The Stro's multiple years of having the #1 Draft Pick, will soon show, once those rookies make it to the Big Lgs. and refine their talents.

No way, IMO, is Nolan and his Son going to let this opportunity pass them by. The Rangers success IMO was more Ryan's and not Daniels. Moreso, the Rangers success laid 1st and foremost with the Players they had drafted.
Having Ron Washington helped their cause as much IMO as any other Mgr. could of done....With only 67 wins I bet some would say Ron was the problem in TX. Not the fact he had more players on the DL than any other team. More than I can recall in the history of MLB. So who's gonna' blame Texas woes by not winning 1 of 3 consecutive Years in the W.S. No doubt some homers will do as much.

From all I've heard, read, on Ron Washington, he was a players Mgr. of whom no player ever had less than kind words for.
 
...^^^ I would not be surprised to see at least one of Lester, Scherzer, Shields, in a Cubs uni next year...Russell Martin too.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...^^^ I would not be surprised to see at least one of Lester, Scherzer, Shields, in a Cubs uni next year...Russell Martin too.
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Such acquisition noted, are well within reach. I'd like to see some if not all of the guys noted above, in Cubs Uniforms.

I'd love to see our Yanx win #28-40, yet somewhere within that stretch, I'd love nothing more than to see The Cubs in A Series, as bad as I want our Yanx to win a dozen more Rings.

Chicago would spontaneously Combust if or when the Cubs do win a world series. I think the Fans would combust just for being in a Series, regardless of whether they won or lost. Even a loss in Series History can spell, faith in the future of the Team, ie "There's always next year."

The Team is in good hands, and I wish Joe the Best...

Those April Home games in Wrigley are as brutal as some Bears games in old Soldier Field. I've never seen any MLB player dress out with full face wool masks, and thick turtle necks. Some of this years April games, looked as horrid as can be, all players looked like they were freezing their asses off, then they have that brick wall to pad their collisions, on top of the extreme freeze :lol:
 
I'd love to see our Yanx win #28-40, yet somewhere within that stretch, I'd love nothing more than to see The Cubs in A Series, as bad as I want our Yanx to win a dozen more Rings
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...I also think that if anyone is going to give Scherzer the type deal he's hoping for, it might just be the Yanx.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I also think that if anyone is going to give Scherzer the type deal he's hoping for, it might just be the Yanx.
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Yeah, I can see that, Max going for the biggest bucks he can get. Yet, hopefully the Cubs can sign Lester, or a couple other aces. I heard they were looking at Cole Hammels too.

Plus the Cubs are somewhat limited on funds, and won't probably be able to sign to many FA's. Imagine what Epstein and Maddon could do With The Bums-Guggenheim money. Lordy.....that thought could go along way...!
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Yeah, I can see that, Max going for the biggest bucks he can get. Yet, hopefully the Cubs can sign Lester, or a couple other aces. I heard they were looking at Cole Hammels too.

Plus the Cubs are somewhat limited on funds, and won't probably be able to sign to many FA's. Imagine what Epstein and Maddon could do With The Bums-Guggenheim money. Lordy.....that thought could go along way...!
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I'm actually worried that you might be right. I mean they offered 7 years to Cano & gave 7 years to Ellsbury so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Yankees offer 7-8 years to Scherzer at somewhere between $150-175M & honestly I'd rather not see the Yankees continue to bury themselves with these over blown contracts. Nor do I think we need to. JMO.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Plus the Cubs are somewhat limited on funds, and won't probably be able to sign to many FA's. Imagine what Epstein and Maddon could do With The Bums-Guggenheim money. Lordy.....that thought could go along way...!
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...from what I read, the Cubs will actually have plenty of money to spend and could be major players in the FA market.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...from what I read, the Cubs will actually have plenty of money to spend and could be major players in the FA market.
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They really need to do something to show those poor patient fans that they're serious about putting a good product on the field.
 
Rick2583 said:
Maddon seems to have a way with young teams, I think this will be a good fit.
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Joe Maddon is the closest thing (mgr) to Billy Martin without the extra curricula activities.

By the way - imo - if Whitey Herzog is a HOF mgr...how is Billy Martin NOT?
I have yet to see a player/mgr being kept out of the HOF because he liked to carouse. It's not as if Martin was swilling from a bottle in the dugout.

Martin was RIGHT THERE with Herzog..in fact, Martin's teams BEAT Herzog's teams in the playoffs with Whitey winning "o" vs Billy's squads.
If memory serves, Martin is STILL the only mgr to take four different teams to first place.
Minn, Det, Oak, NYY
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...from what I read, the Cubs will actually have plenty of money to spend and could be major players in the FA market.
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Good, that means the Cubs re-building process, will not lack for excitement. It will be interesting to see how the Cubs rebuild, player by player. From Minor Lg. call ups, perhaps a few trades, and some FA acquisitions.

I did not know how much the Cubs had to spend, yet It all makes sense, since offing a bunch of bigger contracts on the team.

I made mistake #1 Never assume without the details.
 
You've got to feel a little bad though for Rick Renteria.
 
I still want one of the two SS prospects the Cubbies have.
 
totus44 said:
I still want one of the two SS prospects the Cubbies have.
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And I think the Yanks have the goods to pry one loose if Theo wants to deal with the Yanks.

The Yankees have a couple of pretty fair hitting prospects down there and a couple of pitchers.
Yes, believe it or not, the Yanks DO have a minor league system ...lol....
Their problem...AND MY PROBLEM is the Yanks just don't put their position players on the fast track to the majors.

It seems as if every other MLB team has at least one or two 21-24 year old kids either playing regularly or often...BUT NEVER THE YANKEES. grrrrr
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...as previously mentioned, the Cubs can buy pitching.
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True, but they are in a position to buy into the post season yet. And two top 10 SS prospects at the same development level does them no good either. One is for trade, no mistake about that.
 
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