Johnny Flynn for Rudy Fernandez

[B-Roy]

Straight up, forget about contract issues.

Would you do it? Wolves fans have considered it already.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Hmmm ... yeah probably. I like Rudy's potential, but I think Flynn is going to end up being a pretty decent guard, even though he's a little undersized.

Regardless it's all pretty much a moot point, KP sent a loud and clear signal last night that his only real impact targets are almost certainly quality veteran players that are going to step in day one and help push this team to championship level -- I don't see any rookies in this draft that are capable of providing that.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Since this is purely hypothetical...

I'd think real hard about this one. I'm a big Flynn fan. But I can't see KP dealing Fernandez.

 

[B-Roy]

Hmmm ... yeah probably. I like Rudy's potential, but I think Flynn is going to end up being a pretty decent guard, even though he's a little undersized.

Regardless it's all pretty much a moot point, KP sent a loud and clear signal last night that his only real impact targets are almost certainly quality veteran players that are going to step in day one and help push this team to championship level -- I don't see any rookies in this draft that are capable of providing that.

I would have thought that you'd be against it.

I'm not a fan of this, especially since this leaves us with 3 points and another rookie who needs minutes.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Minnesota won't give up Flynn now.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I agree. Flynn is their guy.

Rubio and his obvious dislike of cold climate will be the one to go.

 

[oldmangrouch]

While I can't see it ever happening, it is an interesting hypothetical.

Do you believe that Rudy will be unwilling to stay in Portland long term in the role of super-sub? If the answer is "yes", then you make the deal. Otherwise, it is a tough call.

 

[LameR]

I would do it. Mainly because Rudy is a SG behind Brandon, and that will always be an issue trying to get Rudy enough minutes. I like Flynn a lot too though. I would do it, but I doubt KP would.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I would have thought that you'd be against it.

I'm not a fan of this, especially since this leaves us with 3 points and another rookie who needs minutes.

Well presumably we wouldn't have taken Mills if this trade had been done ... In any case I see it mostly as a hypothetical trade scenario where talent is exchanged for talent -- in that respect I think both Flynn and Rudy are similar in talent level.

EDIT: I think I misread what you wrote B-Roy; you wouldn't like the Blazers carrying 3 point guards? The team is almost certainly going to carry 3 ones just for reasons of depth and injury insurance. I like Bayless, but I have zero problem with backups competing for minutes -- may the best man win in my opinion.

 

[Ed O]

I'm not a Flynn fan, so no I would not do it.

Ed O.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

From what TrueHoop says, the impression round the league is that Flynn and not the weather is the main reason Rubio is balking at Minny, so they very well might offer this trade. But we shouldn't take it. Flynn is still a rookie PG (or, apparently, a SG, if David Kahn is to be believed).
Blake for Flynn, yes (but just to get rid of Blake).
Rubio for Rudy, yes.
Bayless for Flynn, yes. That makes more sense for us and it even makes sense for Minny, as Bayless really is a SG, but he could be put on either PGs or SGs depending on who Rubio can least guard.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I voted no, but not because I am against trading Rudy. I think at some point sooner than later we will need to address trading Rudy because he won't be happy off the bench for ever.

That being said, I wouldn't trade him for a rookie.

 

[Tortimer]

I do like Flynn but I wouldn't even trade Bayless for him and for sure wouldn't trade Rudy for Flynn.

 

[Public Defender]

The three-guard lineup with Roy, Fernandez, and Blake, was sometimes our most effective set last season. Putting Roy at PG and Fernandez alongside is another option.

Overall, I think if the Blazers are perennial contenders starting next season, and Fernandez can be the type of sixth man that Ginobili has been for the Spurs, I think he'd be happy.

The Blazers don't need a young PG. They could use an upgrade over Blake, perhaps, but I'm not sure Flynn is going to be substantially better than Bayless.

 

[maxiep]

Of course it came from Minny. If we sent Rudy there, they would have a lobbyist to get Rubio. I've seen what a Ricky/Rudy backcourt can do and I don't wish to face it four times a year.

And as for getting a small PG in the deal, no thanks.

I don't worry about what I can't control. Manu Ginobili came off the bench, and so have many other great players. If you're winning, what's the problem? It's not like PA isn't going to pay him. In a three guard rotation, he can get 30-35 minutes.

 

[hasoos]

I haven't seen enough Flynn to consider it and be comfortable with any decision. I have seen Rudy, and am happy with that.

 

[Rodolfo]

Flynn hasn't played a minute in the NBA and proven anything yet. I wouldn't take that chance.

 

[THE HCP]

I saw a YES and a NO on the poll, but no FUCK NO! My vote is FUCK NO!

 

[Rodolfo]

I saw a YES and a NO on the poll, but no FUCK NO! My vote is FUCK NO!

Hey you get your wife a bike yet?

 

[THE HCP]

Hey you get your wife a bike yet?

No. Been real busy. I'm off for about the next 6 weeks though. I think I'll get her one soon.

 

[Rodolfo]

No. Been real busy. I'm off for about the next 6 weeks though. I think I'll get her one soon.

Cool. Remember, road tires.

 

[Tyler_Hansbrough]

No way.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I'm really surprised at how lop-sided the vote is. Generally speaking, a starting PG is worth a heck of a lot more than a back-up SG! Unless Rubio does a 180 and signs, the T'Wolves wouldn't touch this deal. Either people here really hate Flynn, or Rudy is wildly over-valued.

 

[B-Roy]

I'm really surprised at how lop-sided the vote is. Generally speaking, a starting PG is worth a heck of a lot more than a back-up SG! Unless Rubio does a 180 and signs, the T'Wolves wouldn't touch this deal. Either people here really hate Flynn, or Rudy is wildly over-valued.

Right, because Flynn has proven SO MUCH. All high draft picks, before they play a lick in the NBA, tend to be overrated. Flynn might well turn into a good starting point guard, but he's still a rookie who demands big minutes. Portland doesn't need that.

Oh, and Minnesota definitely considers this since they can pair Rubio with Rudy. I have a feeling Rubio is more upset with having to compete with Flynn than with the "cold weather" in Minnesota. Minnesota would kill two birds with one stone with this move, help persuade Rubio to come over, and balance their roster.

Portland shouldn't help a division rival fix the mess they made for themselves in the draft.

 

[tlongII]

No freaking way. Flynn has proven nothing yet and Rudy is a key player on a 54 win team.

 

[<-=*PdX*=->]

Every single person that mentions trading Rudy is CRAZY. Shut Up. Stop. It is not going to happen. And trading him for a point guard opens up a hole at SG. Don't try to tell me Bayless would be the back up or that Webster would be, BS.

 

[Ed O]

Every single person that mentions trading Rudy is CRAZY. Shut Up. Stop. It is not going to happen. And trading him for a point guard opens up a hole at SG. Don't try to tell me Bayless would be the back up or that Webster would be, BS.

Don't be ridiculous. Rudy Fernandez had a pretty good year for a rookie, and I'm glad that he's a Blazer, but he's going to be a backup FOREVER with the Blazers and if Portland can move him either as part of a package as an upgrade or straight-across for a piece that makes sense, I think that the team should consider doing it and probably pull the trigger.

Moving him for Flynn? I don't think so, but talking like he's untouchable is just bizarre.

Ed O.

 

[andalusian]

For the very little I saw of Flynn - I like him a lot - but he still has question marks about him in the NBA and what his ceiling at this level will be. At this point - it makes no sense what-so-ever to even think about a Flynn for Rudy.

 

[LittleAlex]

I voted yes, but then I realized that Flynn would never get off the bench in Portland no matter how good he actually was.

Nate trusts Blake too much. If this deal was made, as the GM I would know I needed to ship Blake out as well. Otherwise, it was a waste of a good player.

 

[THE HCP]

Don't be ridiculous. Rudy Fernandez had a pretty good year for a rookie, and I'm glad that he's a Blazer, but he's going to be a backup FOREVER with the Blazers and if Portland can move him either as part of a package as an upgrade or straight-across for a piece that makes sense, I think that the team should consider doing it and probably pull the trigger.

Moving him for Flynn? I don't think so, but talking like he's untouchable is just bizarre.

Ed O.

What's wrong with having a kick-ass backup? Ginobli I know is really a starter, but you know what I mean. Rudy is our instant everything off the bench. He probably could and would start for a lot of other teams, but why get rid of him. He will be a huge part of our success in the future.