Jrue Holiday trade ideas (2 Viewers)

[blazerfan11]

that rebounding tho

Maybe he's told to stand in the corner and not clog the lane for Demar and Vucevic?

I think Scoot and Ayton will be in the paint a lot.

 

[BankTeller]

Maybe he's told to stand in the corner and not clog the lane for Demar and Vucevic?

I think Scoot and Ayton will be in the paint a lot.

I don’t understand why we wouldn’t encourage him to shoot more 3’s. He’s been so efficient on his 3s, but on such limited attempts. I’d much rather he shoot 37% on 7 attempts than 41% on 3.4 attempts.

 

[blazerfan11]

I don’t understand why we wouldn’t encourage him to shoot more 3’s. He’s been so efficient on his 3s, but on such limited attempts. I’d much rather he shoot 37% on 7 attempts than 41% on 3.4 attempts.

In summer league Scoot was collapsing 4 players into the paint, then throwing darts to the corner to Murray and others.

A very-good-3-point-shooting forward who is also an above-average man-to-man defender would be a great fit.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

In summer league Scoot was collapsing 4 players into the paint, then throwing darts to the corner to Murray and others.

A very-good-3-point shooting forward who is also an above-average man-to-man defender would be a great fit.

Yeah, we don't need to overthink it. Guys the fit in the OG mold. I prefer standout defensive players if possible, but yes a guy needs to stretch the floor.

 

[BankTeller]

Yeah, we don't need to overthink it. Guys the fit in the OG mold. I prefer standout defensive players if possible, but yes a guy needs to stretch the floor.

Agreed. Pat will be playing for a contract as well. But with so many offensively-gifted guys, he may still not get the opportunities to really show his skill on offense. Not saying that’s a bad thing, just saying he might be cheaper to retain for long-term next summer.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Your shtick is...Well, it's really depressing.

? What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[maxiep]

OKC draft capital:

- 2024: Houston (top 4 prot)
- 2024: Utah (top 10 prot)
- 2024: Clips (unprotected)
- 2025: own
- 2025: MIA (top 14 prot)
- 2025: PHI (top 6 prot)
- 2026: own
- 2026: Clips (unprotected)
- 2027: own
- 2027: DEN (top 5 prot)

Good Lord. Can we get our hands on some of these???

You and I are on the same page. If we could involve OKC in some kind of deal (I think they are under the cap), as a third team where they get sent decent player, and we take some of those draft picks and a trade exception, that would be optimal.

 

[maxiep]

I wonder if the Clippers would consider taking Jrue Holliday in exchange for Robert Covington and Norman Powell? <<running away quickly>>

 

[illmatic99]

I wonder if the Clippers would consider taking Jrue Holliday in exchange for Robert Covington and Norman Powell? <<running away quickly>>

been watching a bunch of terrance mann video today. not a bad guy to take a flyer on. he profiles as a sg/sf but everyone swings up a position these days anyway. he's older than OG which is shocking though

 

[cheesehoff]

Stats for Patrick Williams:
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Several defensive highlights in this video. Nice that he played 82 games last season. His 3-point shooting percentage is fantastic.

If it's Chicago they send Jrue to, I'd be very happy with Williams, Caruso and a frp. Caruso is the type of player that would fit in almost any situation. This team needs defense, rebounding and good shooters that won't be unhappy if they don't get x amount of shots. That last one is the reason I'd take Williams rather than OG. Caruso is very underrated and his ability to guard 3 positions would be welcome on any team. Love to have those two and a pick.

 

[RR7]

been watching a bunch of terrance mann video today. not a bad guy to take a flyer on. he profiles as a sg/sf but everyone swings up a position these days anyway. he's older than OG which is shocking though

If Simons is still on the team to start the season, I want(I know I wont get what I want), 96 G minutes split between Scoot, Ant and Sharpe. That puts Mann strictly at the 3. Not interested in that

 

[BankTeller]

been watching a bunch of terrance mann video today. not a bad guy to take a flyer on. he profiles as a sg/sf but everyone swings up a position these days anyway. he's older than OG which is shocking though

Ehh, we have guys that are his size. I think the ‘28 and ‘30 unprotected 1sts and an unprotected ‘29 swap pretty much sets us up with all the picks we need to still add talent as Scoot and Shae enter their prime.

At this point, we would have our main piece back (Ayton), a young guy (Camara), and 3 unprotected 1sts + 3 unprotected swaps. There are vets like Batum and Zubac that would be valuable bench pieces. If they go to contenders for multiple 2nds, great.

 

[BigGameDamian]

If it's Chicago they send Jrue to, I'd be very happy with Williams, Caruso and a frp. Caruso is the type of player that would fit in almost any situation. This team needs defense, rebounding and good shooters that won't be unhappy if they don't get x amount of shots. That last one is the reason I'd take Williams rather than OG. Caruso is very underrated and his ability to guard 3 positions would be welcome on any team. Love to have those two and a pick.

Caruso and Williams would be awesome! Wouldn’t we have to take back Ball though?

 

[BankTeller]

If it's Chicago they send Jrue to, I'd be very happy with Williams, Caruso and a frp. Caruso is the type of player that would fit in almost any situation. This team needs defense, rebounding and good shooters that won't be unhappy if they don't get x amount of shots. That last one is the reason I'd take Williams rather than OG. Caruso is very underrated and his ability to guard 3 positions would be welcome on any team. Love to have those two and a pick.

Williams + Caruso + a 1st isn’t going to be the highest bid imo. If the Bulls landed Holiday, they would definitely want to offload Ball and KEEP Caruso on the bench.

 

[cheesehoff]

Caruso and Williams would be awesome! Wouldn’t we have to take back Ball though?

I'm guessinBall would be necessary for salary matching. I'm not familiar with his contract, but I know there's some question about him ever playing again. If he did play again, having him for limited minutes in a backup role would be great. A good defender and a very good pass first PG off the bench is more than we've had in a long time. I think he'd fit into the young culture pretty well, also.

 

[BankTeller]

Scoot/Ant/Batum
Ant/Thybulle/Shae/Rupert
Shae/Batum/Kris
Grant/Kris/Walker/Covington
Ayton/Brown/Badji

Let’s just assume Batum + Covington + Morris + 2 uprotected 1st and 1 unprotected swap gets a Clips trade done. Oddly, I really like that team to challenge for a playoff spot.

 

[BankTeller]

I'm guessinBall would be necessary for salary matching. I'm not familiar with his contract, but I know there's some question about him ever playing again. If he did play again, having him for limited minutes in a backup role would be great. A good defender and a very good pass first PG off the bench is more than we've had in a long time. I think he'd fit into the young culture pretty well, also.

I would guess he never plays again. But who knows, maybe he ends up being able to play and is motivated to sign another contract. Third guard behind Shae and Scoot next year, is the perfect third guard.

 

[speeds]

Has he finally figured it out? It seems he's been progressing by inches.

@Denny Crane might be able to better answer that as I only usually watch him a few times a year. I don't know how much of his obvious efficiency is a result of being open thanks to having two high-volume scorers on the floor plus a stretch big pulling the centre out of the key. It was in OG's fourth season (Williams is entering his fourth season) where he was given a bigger role (around 50% more shots) and his efficiency held-up.

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

I would like to see national reporting — by actual writers who know the NBA — pay attention to (1) what the Blazers want in a Holiday trade, (2) who has that package, and (3) who makes sense as a contender. That would be a change after the crapfest of reporting on Lillard — always focusing on who would benefit from Lillard to the exclusion of Portland’s side of it.

Seriously lazy reporters interested in drama.

 

[blazerfan11]

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nb...day-trade-availability-dilemma/1658350/?amp=1

Why Holiday's trade availability presents dilemma for Warriors


For more than a decade the Warriors have made a habit of asserting and confirming their unbridled ambition and hubris. Thinking big and acting on it has led to four championships and, in the process, grown their following from local to global.

And here they are with an opportunity to strengthen their goal for a fifth championship. There is, however, a dilemma.

Jrue Holiday, perhaps the best two-way guard in the NBA, is on the market. He has a championship ring. He’s 33 years old, younger than every member of Golden State’s core trio of Stephen Curry, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson core. Holiday is a model teammate who would make the Warriors stronger, and this front office never stops pondering ways to improve.

The dilemma is in the form of veteran point guard Chris Paul. He’s 38, one of the 10 oldest players in the league. He’s a future Hall of Famer who has been with the Warriors for all of 12 weeks.

Any attempt to bring in Holiday would have to include Paul and going out. Simple, eh? Golden State would get five years younger, add an elite defender whose offense skills are more than respectable.

What would give the Warriors pause is trading CP3 only 12 weeks after acquiring him. After 12 weeks of talking him up, extolling his assets and declaring that he brings the leadership and court savvy needed for a deep playoff run. Paul has participated in numerous workouts with new teammates. There have been countless conversations with Golden State coaches.

The Warriors have done a commendable job of selling Paul to themselves and to a skeptical fan base that enjoyed nothing more than seeing him lose.

“I'm thrilled to coach him,” coach Steve Kerr told reporters this week. “He's one of the greatest competitors I've ever seen; his command of the game, the way he controls the action.

“His teams tend to get a great shot possession after possession. He understands what wins.”

Kerr’s assessment is accurate. It’s why the Warriors went after Paul the first week of summer. To move him a few days before training camp would smear all the breathless praise and paint the front office a deep shade of indecision.

That’s the risk. That’s what the Warriors must weigh. There is potential downside in shedding CP3 so quickly, even if it means adding a younger player with a very clear upside – and probably a more seamless fit into the team’s culture.

After all the franchise has done to build credibility around the league and beyond, evolving from a foundering outpost to a powerhouse some insist the NBA wants to impede, the last thing the Warriors want is to invite skepticism about their integrity.

Generating a measure of rectitude was the first order of business when Joe Lacob, Peter Guber & Co. rescued the franchise from the clumsy, unsound leadership of previous owner Chris Cohan.

Kevin Durant signed with the Warriors seven years ago because, after careful consideration, he concluded he was joining a stable and respected organization, one focused on overall quality and consistently chasing championships.

In 2013, three years before KD’s arrival, Andre Iguodala reached the same conclusion. Two days after KD signed, another deep thinker, David West, saw Golden State as the most desirable destination. He signed a minimum contract to put a bow on a stellar career.

Giving up on Chris Paul before he has played a game – after shouting that he is the missing piece – almost certainly would have players around the league – particularly future free agents – to wonder about the integrity of the Warriors.

What perception would be created if ownership, management and coaches would be so quick to turn on the vision they claimed to love? Which is not to suggest the Warriors shouldn’t consider Holiday. He has been voted to the All-Defensive team five times, including the last three seasons. His shooting splits in Milwaukee – 49.4 percent from the field, 39.5 from deep, 80.3 from the line – were impressive. He would be a terrific Warrior.

Indeed, if CP3 already had logged a few games with the Warriors, such a trade might not require second thought. As is? The Warriors have a lot to consider.

Sometimes, the impact of a trade goes beyond simply obtaining the most attractive player

 

[Labinot41]

hopefully that's true.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If it's Chicago they send Jrue to, I'd be very happy with Williams, Caruso and a frp. Caruso is the type of player that would fit in almost any situation. This team needs defense, rebounding and good shooters that won't be unhappy if they don't get x amount of shots. That last one is the reason I'd take Williams rather than OG. Caruso is very underrated and his ability to guard 3 positions would be welcome on any team. Love to have those two and a pick.

You know who Caruso reminds me of? Josh Hart (with even better defense). And I can think of no higher praise. (Well, for a player like Caruso, anyway.)

 

[blazedanugz]

hopefully that's true.

Marang has been saying this from the jump.
Might have to start putting respect on his name

 

[perkinsfor3]

"Jrue Holiday Interested In Heat, Clippers, Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Sixers"


Heat:
Lowry (waived) + Jaquez + Jovic + 2028 - Heat 1st. If Heat don't want to trade both Jovic and Jacquez, they'll need to throw in another 1st.

Clippers:
Morris (waived) + Covington (waived) + Mann + 2027 Clippers 1st + 2029 Clippers 1st. I doubt the Blazers are looking here. Making the East teams bid against each other sounds like a sound way moving forward.

Lakers:
Impossible, nothing to trade to make it work. Don't know why anybody thinks they stand a chance.

Celtics:
Unlikely. Celtics would probably have to give up either Horford or Robert Williams. Williams + Brogdon + Pritchard + Walsh + two of the many 1sts they own between their own and GSW's.

Bulls:
Lonzo + Patrick Williams + Dalen Terry + a 2029 1st. Sounds unlikely.

Sixers:
Unlikely, they'd love to ship out Tobias Harris' expiring deal, which matches Jrue's money, but they will have a hard time coming up with draft capital to make it interesting for the Blazers.

 

[Hoopguru]

Are we able to trade Holiday now or do we have to wait a certain amount of time?

 

[BIG Q]

Are we able to trade Holiday now or do we have to wait a certain amount of time?

Now, by himself.

 

[Blazinaway]

Are we able to trade Holiday now or do we have to wait a certain amount of time?

Now, but only by himself from our end, but with his 36 mil or so salary this is no problemo

 

[Labinot41]

crybaby cry

 

[Natebishop3]

crybaby cry

Let em. They're going to get smashed this season.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Bulls:
Lonzo + Patrick Williams + Dalen Terry + a 2029 1st. Sounds unlikely.

Why's that? Because it's a positive result? Seems perfectly reasonable for both sides. I'd also want our pick back.