OT Judge: Teen must repay $37M for starting Oregon wildfire

[riverman]

Do you think female teachers should be imprisoned for having sex with a 15 year old boy?

Do you think male teachers should be or is this just a female teacher thing? way out of context anyway dude....arson is not pedophilia

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

15-year-olds often make poor decisions. No doubt. Still, they need to be held responsible for the consequences of their actions. But often not to the same degree as adults.

Teachers are adults, so they are held to a higher standard, and teachers to a higher standard still. This is intuitive. A 15-year-old's ability to make decisions for which he should be held accountable doesn't make him any less worthy of protection from predatory behavior from adults, and doesn't make the adult's choice to exploit her position/influence/access any less reprehensible.

I am honestly baffled how anyone can think that holding teenagers accountable for criminal behavior somehow runs counter to criminalizing adults having sex with minors.

The kid can't buy a lotto ticket but owes a good size jackpot. I certainly want him held accountable but why put a symbolic and unusal number on something he can't possibly pay back? We all agree it is unusual don't we?

This isn't premeditated murder we're talking about. We're talking about a stupid kid doing something idiotic kids do all the time.

If this kid burnt down his friend's house he'd have to have a rich friend to owe 37 million dollars.

Again, kid can't consent. Can't vote. Can't buy cigarettes or alcohol....in debt 37 million dollars.

The more I think about it the worse it sounds. I'm leaning towards kids under 16 can't be held financially responsible at all. The parents should be.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Do you think male teachers should be or is this just a female teacher thing? way out of context anyway dude....arson is not pedophilia

It is in context. This kid can't do almost anything because he's a kid but he can be punished like an adult running a Ponzi scheme.

If he needs protected from an adult woman because of hormones and his brain hasn't fully matured and he makes poor decisions then he shouldn't be punished as an adult financially.

Also, I acknowledge the hypocrisy of thinking a teen boy and girl are different when it comes to teachers and affairs. Don't care.

 

[Hobbesarable]

The boy has a very good chance of paying overall less restitution than the 14 year old girl sentenced in the Cocos Fire. Her family is expected to pay $40,000 according to state law.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The boy has a very good chance of paying overall less restitution than the 14 year old girl sentenced in the Cocos Fire. Her family is expected to pay $40,000 according to state law.

Don't know anything about it. She a known firebug and her parents should have known about it and stopped her?

 

[riverman]

This kid can't do almost anything because he's a kid

nonsense...he's got a lot to do...and he has a home..he's free to go to school...he's just got severe probation restrictions until he's 25...and he has to work for the forest service for x amount of hours as well I believe...which will do him a world of good.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Don't know anything about it. She a known firebug and her parents should have known about it and stopped her?

Tell you what, buddy. This thread is not exactly roses and sunshine.

So, I listened to some songs by Bill Withers (Just the Two of Us, Lean on Me, Lovely Day, Use Me) and Christopher Cross (Sailing, Ride Like the Wind, Never be the Same) along with Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell for a couple of hours. Man, Tammi Terrell had such a beautiful voice. Too bad she succumbed to death at such an early age. She was truly a wonderful talent!