Kanter to Boston (1 Viewer)

[hoopsjock]

So actually what you are saying is i'm correct. If NO would have talked hood into signing for 4.16 mill next year and sold him on, "take less so we can get these guys and win it all"...

There WAS a way to get all of them. See?

I've been saying this for months that this is the only way. Basically what you are saying is Olshey sucks because he couldn't convince a guy who took way less than his value that he should've taken even less money? Curry signed for $8 million a year. It wouldn't have been physically possible to re-sign all 3 of those guys.

 

[B-Roy]

I think Whiteside fell into our laps because the Dallas trade fell apart. I don’t think it was on the table.

It saves them money and puts them under the hardcap. But they still someone to offload a few contracts to in order to complete the Jimmy S&T. Even if Dallas isn't participating, they will still need to find a 3rd team regardless.

 

[hoopsjock]

So actually what you are saying is i'm correct. If NO would have talked hood into signing for 4.16 mill next year and sold him on, "take less so we can get these guys and win it all"...

There WAS a way to get all of them. See?

I don't get what you are complaining about. We are better than we were last season.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I've been saying this for months that this is the only way. Basically what you are saying is Olshey sucks because he couldn't convince a guy who took way less than his value that he should've taken even less money? Curry signed for $8 million a year. It wouldn't have been physically possible to re-sign all 3 of those guys.

Okay man. Not sure where you are getting any of that. did you read my post???


"Trade Trent for cap space.

Seems with how many scenarios money can be manipulated, if NO wanted to he could have made it/something work.

Not that im upset in the least."


Maybe you missed that bolded underlined part?


Not even sure how you remotely came to that conclusion.
It was just a thought and my thought, you proved, could have been done, right?

So why we arguing? LOL

 

[Orion Bailey]

I don't get what you are complaining about. We are better than we were last season.

Dude... who is complaining?.. I said (for the third time now) i'm not upset in the least. It was just an observation......

 

[Lukee]

Lol this guy loves attention huh?

I love Portland, they are family, winning bla bla bla

Yeah, he was cunt and he still is.

 

[Red Rooster]

He had a choice, and he chose. If he loved Portland, the success of last season, knew how much the fans liked him, and seen the direction of the club, then it should've been a no brainer. It's a business; he was exercising his business side in considering Boston, and Portland was exercising their business in wanting a decision so they could pull the trigger on Whiteside. GL in Boston.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So actually what you are saying is i'm correct. If NO would have talked hood into signing for 4.16 mill next year and sold him on, "take less so we can get these guys and win it all"...

There WAS a way to get all of them. See?

It was just a thought and my thought, you proved, could have been done, right?

So why we arguing? LOL

It would be equally accurate to say, "If Neil talked Kawhi into signing for the MLE, we could have got him"

Sometimes things that may be theoretically possible are also unrealistic and not worth mentioning.

 

[Scalma]

He had a choice, and he chose. If he loved Portland, the success of last season, knew how much the fans liked him, and seen the direction of the club, then it should've been a no brainier. It's a business; he was exercising his business side in considering Boston, and Portland was exercising their business in wanting a decision so they could pull the trigger on Whiteside. GL in Boston.

Funny how he ended up with less than what he would’ve gotten with Portland, assuming this was before the Hood agreement. I doubt we were offering the minimum.

 

[Orion Bailey]

It would be equally accurate to say, "If Neil talked Kawhi into signing for the MLE, we could have got him"

Sometimes things that may be theoretically possible are also unrealistic and not worth mentioning.

Well of course, but then that would be a $20 mill some odd difference compared to 1.5mill and you are comparing them?

1.5 mill seems realistic. not 22mill like you are suggesting with Kawhi. Apples to Oranges.


Are you guys really trying to dissect my post like this???
Its been proven he could have got them all, like I said.

Not sure what the big deal is......

I said it was just an observation and im not upset in the least.

 

[B-Roy]

Dame is okay with it.

 

[Wade Garrett]

I hope when Boston comes to town, we show Enes how much he meant to this franchise. I further hope next year, he opts out of his deal and we pay him to come back.

This.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Are you guys really trying to dissect my post like this???
Its been proven he could have got them all, like I said.

Not sure what the big deal is......

I said it was just an observation and im not upset in the least.

it's the kind of speculative "observation" that often leads to unfounded criticism down the road. Surely you can see how that might be the case.

 

[crandc]

I'm bummed. Love the way he became part of the team, how he stepped up

No way would the Blazers win a playoff series without him.

 

[Orion Bailey]

it's the kind of speculative "observation" that often leads to unfounded criticism down the road. Surely you can see how that might be the case.

not really. Your anology wasn't even close to what I insinuated.

again 22mill diff vs 1.5 mill diff.

And of course its a speculation. aren't all inferences as to "what could have been"?


Sigh....

Im just gonna leave it at this, which was how I left the original OP..

Im not upset in the least....

 

[hoopsjock]

Okay man. Not sure where you are getting any of that. did you read my post???


"Trade Trent for cap space.

Seems with how many scenarios money can be manipulated, if NO wanted to he could have made it/something work.

Not that im upset in the least."


Maybe you missed that bolded underlined part?


Not even sure how you remotely came to that conclusion.
It was just a thought and my thought, you proved, could have been done, right?

So why we arguing? LOL

Dude, you can't start a post off by saying we should trade Trent for cap space and then expect anyone to think the rest of your post means anything worthwhile. You flat out said Olshey could've made it work if he wanted to. That doesn't imply anything negative towards Olshey?

 

[Scalma]

Dame is okay with it.

I’d bet Olshey ran the Whiteside trade by Dame before finalizing it.

 

[B-Roy]

not really. Your anology wasn't even close to what I insinuated.

again 22mill diff vs 1.5 mill diff.

And of course its a speculation. aren't all inferences as to "what could have been"?


Sigh....

Im just gonna leave it at this, which was how I left the original OP..

Im not upset in the least....

You’re not convincing anyone that you aren’t upset when you use size 32 bold font. Just saying.

 

[noknobs]

Well, the lack of completely pointless arguments was fun while it lasted.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

not really. Your anology wasn't even close to what I insinuated.

again 22mill diff vs 1.5 mill diff.

And of course its a speculation. aren't all inferences as to "what could have been"?

Let's ignore the (clearly hyperbolic) analogy. It's incidental to the point.

Plenty of speculative "what could have been"s are perfectly reasonable. We could have drafted Durant instead of Oden. We could have not given Roy a max extension. We could have not matched Crabbe. etc. Those are all things we had complete control over. Speculation over "what could have been" had the team made a better choice in those circumstances makes sense.

What frustrate me--and what your "observation" could easily lead to--are the kind of "what could have been"s that are not fully in the team's control. For example:
--"We could have had Paul George here if Neil would have simply been willing to offer CJ to the Pacers!" I've seen that criticism leveled many times, though we have no way to know if it's actually true. Still, people convince themselves that hypotheticals are undeniable reality, and they go from there.

When you say, "It's been proven that Neil could have signed Hood and Kanter and also traded for Whiteside, and we could have had all three", when in all reality we have no idea if it was actually possible to convince Hood to sign for 4.16M, then you are opening the door to that same type of unfounded criticism of Olshey if something doesn't quite work out this season.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Dude, you can't start a post off by saying we should trade Trent for cap space and then expect anyone to think the rest of your post means anything worthwhile. You flat out said Olshey could've made it work if he wanted to. That doesn't imply anything negative towards Olshey?

got back and read. I didnt start it out with that.

And no it doesn't imply anything negative when I said im not upset in the least. Pretty much done with this convo now.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You’re not convincing anyone that you aren’t upset when you use size 32 bold font. Just saying.

Really???, Follow the damn thread if your going to jump in on it. The bold font is because im getting upset at those that are missing that I posted it. Being upset at people missing my comment is not the same as being upset based on my comment.

Is English really this difficult?


My Gawd, this is getting annoying.

 

[Orion Bailey]

oh for fucks sake....

Enjoy the day people... not gonna let you all ruin it for me based off of one simple observation that so many want to knitpick at while completely dismissing the second half of my post.

Knock yourself out...

 

[Serbian]

Enes said”



Sounds to me they our team felt as if he was not a must sign since he is absolutely god awful on defense, i love kenter coming off the bench but he is a defensive liability to be a starter

 

[Scalma]

Hood was the one that put his money where his mouth was. Actions speak louder than words. I appreciated what Kanter brought to the team, but I won’t miss him.

 

[Scalma]

Nurk don’t play. Have fun with the self promotion in Boston.

 

[Binx]

Wish we could have kept Kanter. Loved his toughness in the playoffs, and his enthusiasm for the team. Good guy.

 

[Serbian]

He loved Portland but all he cared is to play for a winning franchise. Boston paid him more and boston is closer to Europe via flights. At end Boston was his obvious choice, i dont buy that family Portland bullshit its all about business,

Rodney hood I knew would stay why? Not because of rodney himself but because of his father. His father said after season” Rodney finally found a home he fells reborn not lost and depressed anymore. The group of guys he is around now and a winning franchise is more important for personal mental health than extra millions playing in a depressing situation, my son has found himself again in Portland “

So his daddy also had his back to resign in Portland

 

[Scalma]

Kanter doesn’t really deserve the benefit of the doubt. He panders to every teams fan base he’s on and then throws the team under the bus when he leaves. I’m sure he’s a good guy at his core, but he needs to chill.

 

[B-Roy]

Kanter just posted this on IG. I think he genuinely loved it here.