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Well prove it. I can tell you just from being much younger than you that it's not the case.
No, I think Barfo is right that more people know of Pepe as a racist thing now. That is what we're talking about right?

That doesn't mean it is right or fair.
 
And there you have it.

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Caring enough to say it isn't racist and caring enough to mount a campaign to stop it from being racist are two different things by the way.

There's millions of things I care about but not enough to do something about it. I
 
No, I think Barfo is right that more people know of Pepe as a racist thing now. That is what we're talking about right?

That doesn't mean it is right or fair.
Many people of a certain age. I mean the ADL "officially" put it as a hate symbol in 2016. They got a lot of backlash from that. So yeah, now the swastika and pepe the frog are definitely in the same boat. I mean right? its crazy. I never use pepe anymore but I still find that stupid frog funny when I see a pepe meme. Even that just goes with today and how society is. Everything is watered down.
 
The issue with you constantly trying to box me into this "Alt right" label is I have proven time and time again I am not. I am more of a centrist. I take things from the right I like and things from the left. I have views of both parties that go with my ideas. However I completely hate the party system as it has shown all it creates is division
You're always complaining about the left though, and never about the right. You're not bridging the gap between parties by being a level-headed, unbiased voice, as you've proven bias against the left by constantly complaining about them. You're contributing to the division... That's why you get boxed in.
 
You're always complaining about the left though, and never about the right. You're not bridging the gap between parties by being a level-headed, unbiased voice, as you've proven bias against the left by constantly complaining about them. You're contributing to the division... That's why you get boxed in.
Because the right isn't all that loud. That's why you see me barely complain about them. They aren't attacking people and calling people racists for little to no reason. They just have some shitty views and some decent ones. Other than that, I don't see them attacking people for cultural appropriation or any of that nonsense
 
I have never in my life seen somebody work SO hard to prove to people they are NOT racist! It's almost comical.
Since the Pepe meme has been tainted we should use pictures of you instead. We could call it "close enough".. until an alt-right group turns THAT into a symbol of racism, and then you'd have the same problem you're talking about.
 
Because the right isn't all that loud. That's why you see me barely complain about them. They aren't attacking people and calling people racists for little to no reason. They just have some shitty views and some decent ones. Other than that, I don't see them attacking people for cultural appropriation or any of that nonsense
If you're a centrist then who hates the party system and the division it creates, then its ironic that you feel the need to stick up for one party because of the characteristics of the other. That's buying into the party system and dividing thought. I hope you can see the irony in that.
 
If you're a centrist then who hates the party system and the division it creates, then its ironic that you feel the need to stick up for one party because of the characteristics of the other. That's buying into the party system and dividing thought. I hope you can see the irony in that.
How am I sticking up for one party? I don't like either and I have made that clear. If conservatives were out there attacking people for petty shit, I would be more so on them. I think that is pretty clear
 
The Kanye west thing kinda fits into the same subject. Yeah I am sure half of his act is to market his next album but I think he means what he is saying. It's interesting to see the twitter mobs and media come after Kanye for saying he likes trump and if you watched interviews, he admits he knows nothing about his politics, he just likes the idea of trump and now black people hate him and white people hate him. It's the fake outrage. He hasn't said anything bad, but it's amazing to see how people react to somebody saying something positive about Trump. I don't like a lot of things people say but I don't hate them for their opinions. People are genuinely speaking out of hate for kanye and saying he doesn't care about black people and I think that's crazy
I heard a radio station say that Kanye said slavery was a choice.. If he said that then he shouldn't be defended by anybody.
 
How am I sticking up for one party? I don't like either and I have made that clear. If conservatives were out there attacking people for petty shit, I would be more so on them. I think that is pretty clear
Again, I hope you see how this is buying into the party system and the division it creates.
 
I heard a radio station say that Kanye said slavery was a choice.. If he said that then he shouldn't be defended by anybody.
Well that's the problem, media takes things and makes it an appealing headline. That wasn't the full context. Go to 17:09 for more context. 3:26 is what he originally said which wasn't directly "slavery was a choice" or even implied that.

 
Again, I hope you see how this is buying into the party system and the division it creates.
but I am not. If I bought into the party system I would be voting and actively trying to promote conservatives or democrats. I am not. I think both parties are whack. You will never find me not talking to somebody because they are democrat or republican unless they start getting crazy. Crazy as in saying "hey man, you are defending racists by defending a meme". Thats crazy. At that point I am out. As you see Donkiez clearly has a different opinion than me but he respectfully engaged in a conversation and our conversation was fine.
 
Well that's the problem, media takes things and makes it an appealing headline. That wasn't the full context. Go to 17:09 for more context. 3:26 is what he originally said which wasn't directly "slavery was a choice" or even implied that.

I figured. I get what he's trying to say, he did an awful job of saying it.

Btw, it was a sports show, so that doesn't apply.
 
but I am not. If I bought into the party system I would be voting and actively trying to promote conservatives or democrats. I am not. I think both parties are whack. You will never find me not talking to somebody because they are democrat or republican unless they start getting crazy. Crazy as in saying "hey man, you are defending racists by defending a meme". Thats crazy. At that point I am out. As you see Donkiez clearly has a different opinion than me but he respectfully engaged in a conversation and our conversation was fine.
If consistently talk shit about one side, you're being divisive, and if you're focusing on a party and it's tendencies compared to another party, you're buying into the party system more than a vote would do.
 
If consistently talk shit about one side, you're being divisive, and if you're focusing on a party and it's tendencies compared to another party, you're buying into the party system more than a vote would do.
I guess you aren't understanding. That's fine
 
I guess you aren't understanding. That's fine
That's what I should be saying to you. I'm dead on. The a step back and look at what I'm saying without the want to defend yourself and maybe you'll see it.

(I'm not saying a want to defend yourself is bad, everyone has that, however it can also hinder self-awareness, due to the self-bias that comes with it.)
 
That's what I should be saying to you. I'm dead on. The a step back and look at what I'm saying without the want to defend yourself and maybe you'll see it.

(I'm not saying a want to defend yourself is bad, everyone has that, however it can also hinder self-awareness, due to the self-bias that comes with it.)
And I am saying if conservatives were doing the same thing, I would be calling them out. I don't know if you know this but the ones that are calling somebody like me racist and are attacking everybody is the left. The right stays quiet. That doesn't mean I am bias towards one side just for pointing things out about another. Yet you want me to sit and prove to you I am not one side. No man you are doing the same thing as these others. Saying I am a conservative. I don't fuck with any of the political parties. Your only support for that theory is because I trash the left? well yeah when the left is coming at me I come at them. Same with the right but nobody from the right has come out and made ridiculous assumptions.

Yeah though you caught me, I am a closet conservative. Crazy. This thread is nonsense
 
And I am saying if conservatives were doing the same thing, I would be calling them out. I don't know if you know this but the ones that are calling somebody like me racist and are attacking everybody is the left. The right stays quiet. That doesn't mean I am bias towards one side just for pointing things out about another. Yet you want me to sit and prove to you I am not one side. No man you are doing the same thing as these others. Saying I am a conservative. I don't fuck with any of the political parties. Your only support for that theory is because I trash the left? well yeah when the left is coming at me I come at them. Same with the right but nobody from the right has come out and made ridiculous assumptions.

Yeah though you caught me, I am a closet conservative. Crazy. This thread is nonsense
The fact that you place such relevance on the traits of "this side" and "that side" places relavence on the party system. Talking about the differences of those parties with claims that you always attack one side because "they're louder" is dividing. Its not even about which side you're calling out. Its not even about bias. Its simply that you hate the party system and the division it creates but you add prevalence to it.
 
The fact that you place such relevance on the traits of "this side" and "that side" places relavence on the party system. Talking about the differences of parties with claims that you always attack on side because "they're louder" is dividing. Its not even about which side you're calling out.
Because both sides have different traits. If they didn't what would be the separation of the two parties. Do you want me to get a tattoo to prove to you? what do I need to do to convince you?

but really though, you are trying hard bones and that's cool and all but you are at a dead end here
 
I don't even know who she is. Scanned the thread. Will report back on her hotness.
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She is approachably hot.
 

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