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I have friends that are republicans and I would never accuse them of having a brain disease. I have friends that are democrats and I don't see no brain disease in them. WOW

Well, I note that you say you don't see brain disease in Democrats, but only that you wouldn't accuse Republicans of having brain disease.

So I guess you agree with me. :)

Anyway, I really meant professional Republicans, not voters.

barfo
 
Well, I note that you say you don't see brain disease in Democrats, but only that you wouldn't accuse Republicans of having brain disease.

So I guess you agree with me. :)

Anyway, I really meant professional Republicans, not voters.

barfo
You don't see it in republicans either you just accuse them. Thats not to cool.
 
You don't see it in republicans either you just accuse them. Thats not to cool.

How else do you explain what Ed Whelan did?

barfo
 
If I was to hear him actually say that in the right context, sure it would bother me. The problem is so much of what is said anymore that come's from partisan politicians and/or media spinning in out of context.
If I hear trump on tape making crude remarks about ladies (I still call them ladies) I know he said it and the context he said it in. Guilty
When I heard Clinton on tape tell Wall Streeter's she advocates open boarder society, I know she said it and ten context she said it in. Guilty

Politicians have always said one thing and done other things to appease their base.
I don't think there are that many similarities at all between Trump and Kavanaugh but maybe there is. I know they both are conservatives at least Kavanaugh seems to be.
If Clinton was our President she would be entitled to nominate whomever she liked. Im good with that.

This deal with Kav in all honesty to me looks like a very desperate play on the democrats. Id say the same thing if the roles were reversed.

Do some research. It's been documented on his views of whether a president should be indicted. By the way, the Clintons had nothing to do with any of my posts so not sure why you brought them into it. The democrats simply don't want a judge on the supreme court that could very well be involved in making decisions on Trump's legal issues and for good reason because of his stance that says a president can't be indicted. You really need to start looking at sources and deciding who you can believe as not everything is corrupt.
 
You misunderstood part of my post. My mindset comment wasn't comparing Trump and Kavanaugh although there seems to be more similarities than not, but instead was a reference that Kavanaugh believes a president shouldn't be indicted or investigated if they commit a crime. In other words, he feels a president is above the law. A dangerous mindset considering the type of person Trump is.

The Washington Post gave that Democrat talking point a couple of Pinocchios. It references a 2009 article written by Kavanaugh where he lays out a case for Congress passing a law that would prevent a president from being prosecuted while in office because of the demands and national interests of keeping the Chief Executive doing his or her job. It also notes that there's always impeachment to remove the president from office if the allegations are significant, as well as recommending that the statute of limitations on any crimes allegedly committed be automatically extended until a president's term of office is over.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...from-criminal-charges/?utm_term=.7d97bdcb24e8
 
Do some research. It's been documented on his views of whether a president should be indicted. By the way, the Clintons had nothing to do with any of my posts so not sure why you brought them into it. The democrats simply don't want a judge on the supreme court that could very well be involved in making decisions on Trump's legal issues and for good reason because of his stance that says a president can't be indicted. You really need to start looking at sources and deciding who you can believe as not everything is corrupt.
My point was regarding Clinton, if she was president she would be entitles as the current is to appoint whomever.
And if the republicans were stalling and as desperate as the demo are showing, I'd rebuke them too.

As far as Kav believing no President under any circumstance could be indicted, like I said I don't agree with that, but I haven't yet heard him say that publicly.
Of course the Dems don't want a conservative of any type for a whole bunch of reasons. Once they win back the Pres and majority they will have their chance once again possibly to even the odds.
There are a few really old one's that need to move on anyway, imo.
 
And if the republicans were stalling and as desperate as the demo are showing, I'd rebuke them too.

So I assume you rebuked the republicans for the 8 months they stalled Merrick Garland? That's quite a bit longer than the 1 week that this nomination has been set back.

barfo
 
So I assume you rebuked the republicans for the 8 months they stalled Merrick Garland? That's quite a bit longer than the 1 week that this nomination has been set back.

barfo
as a matter of fact I did.
As I have said I don't have a problem with a delay in this if needed.
One of my problems with politics in general is there are always delays in getting things done because of politics.
I try to be unbiased and reasonable in my thats about politics, but gee'z it hard to convince some that its possible.
My premise is there always needs to be concessions on both sides, but it doesnt appear thats possible with all the partisan gang fights.
 
as a matter of fact I did.
As I have said I don't have a problem with a delay in this if needed.
One of my problems with politics in general is there are always delays in getting things done because of politics.
I try to be unbiased and reasonable in my thats about politics, but gee'z it hard to convince some that its possible.
My premise is there always needs to be concessions on both sides, but it doesnt appear thats possible with all the partisan gang fights.

Good regarding Garland.

I'm not sure a week is really the end of the world in this case. There isn't a deadline.

barfo
 
So I assume you rebuked the republicans for the 8 months they stalled Merrick Garland? That's quite a bit longer than the 1 week that this nomination has been set back.

barfo
Bravo, I live in a neighborhood where all neighbors make an effort to get along and help when needed.
My new next door neighbor are young partiers (I'm just waiting for an invite) and the husband came over and asked if the loud noise was a problem. I said it wasn't but my wife thought a bit differently, anyway we told him we appreciated he talked to us about it. We had the right to call the cops I guess, but I just figured a little give and take wouldn't hurt.
So Ive noticed now they have toned it down a lot and I asked him if we gave him the wrong impression or if someone else complained and he said no, they just want to show they can be reasonable neighbors.
I guess the moral of my story is Im not sure with such hate demonstrated by both parties because of the vast difference in ideologies, they could never compromise and show more bi partisan efforts.
And I don't think it would matter if Trump wasn't President like many say. If it was Clinton in office, lord have mercy or Rubio, good god, same gap.
 
Bravo, I live in a neighborhood where all neighbors make an effort to get along and help when needed.
My new next door neighbor are young partiers (I'm just waiting for an invite) and the husband came over and asked if the loud noise was a problem. I said it wasn't but my wife thought a bit differently, anyway we told him we appreciated he talked to us about it. We had the right to call the cops I guess, but I just figured a little give and take wouldn't hurt.
So Ive noticed now they have toned it down a lot and I asked him if we gave him the wrong impression or if someone else complained and he said no, they just want to show they can be reasonable neighbors.
I guess the moral of my story is Im not sure with such hate demonstrated by both parties because of the vast difference in ideologies, they could never compromise and show more bi partisan efforts.
And I don't think it would matter if Trump wasn't President like many say. If it was Clinton in office, lord have mercy or Rubio, good god, same gap.
My thinking is until people ACCEPT a more moderate/centrist concept to politics its only going to get worse. Just this old farts opinion.
 
And I don't think it would matter if Trump wasn't President like many say.

Maybe not, but it is worth doing the experiment to find out.

barfo
 
By the way, the Clintons had nothing to do with any of my posts so not sure why you brought them into it.

A form of tourettes I believe
 
Maybe not, but it is worth doing the experiment to find out.

barfo
as along as it's not a progressive democratic socialist. And someone who can keep the economy booming doesnt matter to me if its demo, repub, or independent.
 
Annnnnnnnnd... no:
"I learned this week that there is no statute of limitations for felony sexual assault in Montgomery County, MD."
barfo

So far, we don't even know what state this supposed story took place. The accuser claims to have no idea.
 
So far, we don't even know what state this supposed story took place. The accuser claims to have no idea.

so then have an investigation. Why are you so afraid of that and unless you can provide a link to prove that it's illegal then we can only take it as more of your garbage.
 
Anti-Kavanaugh voices Hirono, Feinstein took campaign cash from Dem colleague who admitted hitting his wife
By Lukas Mikelionis | Fox News

Sen. Mazie Hirono tells men to 'shut up and step up'
Speaking at a press conference Tuesday evening, Hawaii Democratic Sen. Mazie Hirono urges men to 'do the right thing' amid allegations of misconduct against President Trump's Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh.


U.S. Sen. Mazie Hirono, who told men to “just shut up and step up” in the wake of sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, might have some explaining to do about her campaign cash.


Data show that Hawaii's Hirono has taken money from a fellow Democrat who has admitted hitting his wife.


U.S. Sen. Tom Carper’s First State PAC donated $1,000 to Hirono’s political campaign in June, despite the Delaware lawmaker’s confession of abuse.


Delaware Sen. Tom Carper’s First State PAC donated $1,000 to Hirono’s political campaign in June, despite the lawmaker’s confession of abuse. (AP)


Also receiving donations from Carper’s group was U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which will decide if Kavanaugh is appointed to the nation's highest court. Feinstein has received $5,000 from the PAC so far in 2018.


Other Democrats benefitting from Carper's PAC include U.S. Sens. Jon Tester of Montana, Bill Nelson of Florida and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, who've received $10,000 each from the PAC this year.

“Did I slap my wife 20 years ago? Yes. Do I regret it? Yes. Would I do it again? No.”

- Delaware Sen. Tom Carper
Carper admitted hitting his wife -- an allegation he pushed back against after it was first reported during his 1982 run for U.S. Congress -- in a 1998 interview with a local journalist Celia Cohen who published a book “Only in Delaware” that is sold by the state of Delaware on its official website, the Washington Free Beacon reported.

“Did I slap my wife 20 years ago? Yes,” Carper admitted in the interview for the book. “Do I regret it? Yes. Would I do it again? No.”

The journalist wrote that that Carper “would not speak of the allegations, even when they were repackaged and resurfaced 14 years later while he was running for a second term as governor,” but during the interview for the book “he dealt with them straightforwardly."

The New York Post was the first newspaper to allege that Carper hit his wife. The story stemmed from a taped deposition the lawmaker gave as part of a child custody battle. He was accused of hitting his wife “so hard he gave her a black eye” while his children were allegedly “slapped around and bruised by Carper for doing such things as leaving the family dog on the bed.”

Carper, 71, won Delaware's Democratic primary earlier this month as he seeks a fourth Senate term.

Revelations of Carper’s donations to Hirono, Feinstein and other Senate Democrats come at a time the party is attempting to stop the confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh after California professor Christine Blasey Ford accused him of sexual assault.

Hirono has become one of the leading anti-Kavanaugh senators, criticizing men and the culture of silence that the MeToo movement is trying to change.

“Guess who is perpetrating all of these kinds of actions? It’s the men in this country,” Hirono said Tuesday. “I just want to say to the men in this country: Just shut up and step up. Do the right thing, for a change.”

“There is an environment where people see nothing, hear nothing, and say nothing,” Hirono added in a statement. “That is what we have to change.”
 
why do you fear an investigation so much? Are you afraid of the truth and wouldn't that be the "transparent" thing to do as you seem to think this administration is so transparent, yet they constantly try and shove things through prematurely without the proper process and vetting.
Im sure the authorities will be all over an investigation if she has any thing?
I still think she was the one drunk and pushing herself on the guys?
I remember chicks like that, when hey got a few drinks down them they got all loud, sloppy and aggressive.
 
Im sure the authorities will be all over an investigation if she has any thing?
I still think she was the one drunk and pushing herself on the guys?
I remember chicks like that, when hey got a few drinks down them they got all loud, sloppy and aggressive.

wow. That's pretty lame. The fact is the republicans are trying to rush it through and unwilling to investigate and meet her time frame. Why is that? Seems like they want to push this through without the proper investigation.
 
...I think it's a chicken shit move by the libs...don't you find the timing of this whole thing a bit too convenient for the Dems?...I do.

...this shit storm has very little to do with right or wrong, but instead has more to do with making this accuser a pawn in a strictly political move by the Dems.

...but yeah, I really don't see how these accusations can be either proven or disproven but I do think they may put doubt in enough GOP members' minds to cause them to vote against Kavenaugh, which IMO, is a ploy by the dems with hopes of somehow postponing the actual confirmation of a new SC judge until after the midterms.

The woman was attacked by Kavanaugh. Why would you call for an FBI investigation into what you're saying if you're lying?
 
I agree the timing is not optimal but there are a couple additional things to consider, IMO.

-We went through this with another SCOTUS appointee and the woman did go public and testified to behavior that was obviously humiliating to her and was not believed. The accuser did not initially want to go through that.

-She was traumatized enough by the event that she discussed it in counseling 6 years ago and it can be corroborated independently by the therapist and her husband.

-She passed a polygraph test.

Watch this man....

 
Democrats: what a scam.

Trying to delay this as much as they can.

Its this kind of political BS that average joe gets frustrated with and votes for Trump. Anything but the established pieces of shit running this country, on both sides.
 
Democrats: what a scam.

Trying to delay this as much as they can.

Its this kind of political BS that average joe gets frustrated with and votes for Trump. Anything but the established pieces of shit running this country, on both sides.

So when Republicans do it (Hello 2008-16, and Merrick Garland), it's OK?
 
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