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Keep your eyes on the Detroit Pistons! The Pistons are now 16-47 for the season, but have won 4 of their last 6 games, beating Boston, Cleveland, Charlotte and Toronto (tonight). 3 of those wins were on the road.
Although unlikely, if the Pistons beat Portland in Detroit, and win 8 other games out of the other 18 remaining, (assuming the Blazers lose all remaining games) they would be tied with the Trail Blazers at 25-57 and win the tiebreaker because of a better conference record.
If this happens, Portland could end up with the 3rd worst record in the NBA.
I don't expect this will happen, but it's worth following.
 
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Hard to see Portland losing all their remaining games. That would be a 23 game losing streak. That's 10 more than the longest losing streak in Blazer history
 
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wizenheimer said:
Hard to see Portland losing all their remaining games. That would be a 23 game losing streak. That's 10 more than the longest losing streak in Blazer history
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Would that make us 7th in all time winning percentage? Currently 6th.
 
bemac said:
Yeah, similar to Durant or....Wait, I can't think of another 7 footer with the shooting/ball handling/shot blocking/passing skills he has. Definitely average player.

And yes, with Spokane ties, I have watched every game.
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Once there is an exception, I’ll THINK about modifying the rule
 
wizenheimer said:
Hard to see Portland losing all their remaining games. That would be a 23 game losing streak. That's 10 more than the longest losing streak in Blazer history
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Has there ever been this bad of an active roster in Blazer history?
 
wizenheimer said:
Hard to see Portland losing all their remaining games. That would be a 23 game losing streak. That's 10 more than the longest losing streak in Blazer history
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Have the trailblazers ever lost three games in a row by 30 points or more?
 
bemac said:
Yeah, similar to Durant or....Wait, I can't think of another 7 footer with the shooting/ball handling/shot blocking/passing skills he has. Definitely average player.

And yes, with Spokane ties, I have watched every game.
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durant averaged 25 points, 11 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks in college. Holmgren?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
durant averaged 25 points, 11 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks in college. Holmgren?
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Adding to this, announcers were saying:

“He’s one of the best PERIMETER players I’ve ever seen!”

Holmgren isn’t playing SF anytime soon (ever).
 
MickZagger said:
Yes.

Charles ‘Spider’ Smith was our starting 2 guard.
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I barely remember him, but it looks like he was only on the team one year and that squad wasn't even close in comparison to what we're rolling out right now.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Portland-Trail-Blazers/24/Rosters/Current/2003

wizenheimer said:
these were the primary starters in 2005-06:

Zach Randolph
Steve Blake
Juan Dixon
Joel Przybilla
Viktor Khryapa

that team won 21 games over an 82 game season. That team was riddled with injuries, like the current team. That team also had the infamous
Ha Seung-Jin as a backup. But he was behind Brian Skinner on the depth chart. That says a lot about the quality of that team
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That roster is more talented than the current team's active roster, so you really have to break it down to chunks of the season when players weren't available for it to be meaningful, with regards to your comment about the likelihood of this group getting skunked the rest of the way.
 
handiman said:
That roster is more talented than the current team's active roster,
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Idk if its a lack of talent, the current squad is just completely undersized. In the three games since the break, they've been outrebounded by double digits in every single game. They dont have anyone over 6'9 in the rotation. No chance of competing with that disparity.
 
handiman said:
I barely remember him, but it looks like he was only on the team one year and that squad wasn't even close in comparison to what we're rolling out right now.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Portland-Trail-Blazers/24/Rosters/Current/2003



That roster is more talented than the current team's active roster, so you really have to break it down to chunks of the season when players weren't available for it to be meaningful, with regards to your comment about the likelihood of this group getting skunked the rest of the way.
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I really think when the twentieth of this month comes and the opponents get a lot worse, we'll find a reason to sit Hart for the rest of the season.

Simons, Johnson, Elleby, Brown, Eubanks, Hughes, Watford, Williams, Blevins playing all of the minutes for those last three weeks of the season.
 
I just look at how the team has performed in the last three games and compare it to how the teams with worse records are playing. It doesn't look likely that the Blazers would be able to beat them. Maybe they'll win a game against Houston in Portland?
 
handiman said:
That roster is more talented than the current team's active roster, so you really have to break it down to chunks of the season when players weren't available for it to be meaningful, with regards to your comment about the likelihood of this group getting skunked the rest of the way.
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over the last 37 games of the season, that team went 4-33. That's nearly half a season and that winning rate would translate to a 9-73 record over an entire year. That's a damn big sample size for comparing active rosters.

look, all I'm saying is that the current team ending the season with a 23 game losing streak is very unlikely. They will grab a win somewhere because they are going to be playing several games against other tanking teams.
 
I've been watching a bunch of old draft lottery videos.

wonder who we send on our behalf to rep us on the front of the stage.

-Cronin's got the interim title, so ya never know.
-Jody is too disconnected.
-Ant is technically going to be a RFA.
-Dame is probably too too disengaged with the drama.

My best guess is Chauncey. Oh God, please not Bert Kolde.

Historically, we sent Steve Patterson in 06, Brandon Roy in 07, Wes Matthews in 2012, Dame in 2013.
 
blazerfan11 said:
I just look at how the team has performed in the last three games and compare it to how the teams with worse records are playing. It doesn't look likely that the Blazers would be able to beat them. Maybe they'll win a game against Houston in Portland?
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as long as they keep getting destroyed on the boards they won’t have much of a shot against anyone. No chance they’re gonna lose 20 straight, the schedule is too weak, but they’re not gonna win many either.
 
illmatic99 said:
I've been watching a bunch of old draft lottery videos.

wonder who we send on our behalf to rep us on the front of the stage.

-Cronin's got the interim title, so ya never know.
-Jody is too disconnected.
-Ant is technically going to be a RFA.
-Dame is probably too too disengaged with the drama.

My best guess is Chauncey. Oh God, please not Bert Kolde.

Historically, we sent Steve Patterson in 06, Brandon Roy in 07, Wes Matthews in 2012, Dame in 2013.
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it’s either dame or Chauncey. Wildcard would be a young player under a multi year deal like watford or Greg brown
 
Freshtown said:
it’s either dame or Chauncey. Wildcard would be a young player under a multi year deal like watford or Greg brown
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considering dame's thoughts on draft picks, i highly doubt he'd go. plus you know ESPN would milk the "dame needs to leave" angle ad nauseum especially if he's on stage. Definitely Chauncey.
 
illmatic99 said:
considering dame's thoughts on draft picks, i highly doubt he'd go. plus you know ESPN would milk the "dame needs to leave" angle ad nauseum especially if he's on stage. Definitely Chauncey.
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I disagree, hitting big in the lottery gives us a lot more options than just drafting a young guy... regardless, the better we do that night, the better team Dame will have around him. I think it's very likely that Dame is our representative at the draft but yeah Chauncey makes a ton of sense too.
 
blazerkor said:
I disagree, hitting big in the lottery gives us a lot more options than just drafting a young guy... regardless, the better we do that night, the better team Dame will have around him. I think it's very likely that Dame is our representative at the draft but yeah Chauncey makes a ton of sense too.
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Should be Blevins.
 
Hate to disappoint people but if we aren’t top 3 my guess is we’ll trade one or both picks. They’ve made a promise to Dame to build around him so unless we get top 3 player they don’t fit Dames time frame.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Hate to disappoint people but if we aren’t top 3 my guess is we’ll trade one or both picks. They’ve made a promise to Dame to build around him so unless we get top 3 player they don’t fit Dames time frame.
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Not necessarily. Dame is tight with Kansas senior Ochai Agbaji who is projected by some to go late lottery. Would not shock me at all to see him taken with the later of 2 picks (if we get two), and for him to be a contributor from day 1.
 
Scalma said:
Idk if its a lack of talent, the current squad is just completely undersized. In the three games since the break, they've been outrebounded by double digits in every single game. They dont have anyone over 6'9 in the rotation. No chance of competing with that disparity.
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That certainly doesn't help, but outside Simons and Hart, there's not really any proven NBA talent out there right now, and many thought Simons wasn't even going to be worthy of a second contract some 3 months ago.

blazerkor said:
I really think when the twentieth of this month comes and the opponents get a lot worse, we'll find a reason to sit Hart for the rest of the season.

Simons, Johnson, Elleby, Brown, Eubanks, Hughes, Watford, Williams, Blevins playing all of the minutes for those last three weeks of the season.
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That's terrifying, and not to opponents.

wizenheimer said:
over the last 37 games of the season, that team went 4-33. That's nearly half a season and that winning rate would translate to a 9-73 record over an entire year. That's a damn big sample size for comparing active rosters
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That still doesn't address who among that year's players were active during that 37 game stretch where they managed to win 4 games. We probably aren't getting Dame, Nurk, or any other vet with a mysterious ailment back.

look, all I'm saying is that the current team ending the season with a 23 game losing streak is very unlikely. They will grab a win somewhere because they are going to be playing several games against other tanking teams.
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That's not exactly how it began. "Hard to see Portland losing all their remaining games. That would be a 23 game losing streak. That's 10 more than the longest losing streak in Blazer history." The last portion is key to what I'm saying. This year's available roster is easily capable of beating the longest losing streak in team history. That's the half of your statement that's applicable to how bad this group is.
 
handiman said:
That's terrifying, and not to opponents.
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At this point I think that has to be the idea. Put the group out there that Chauncey can coach the hardest and the players can give it there all and we improve our chances of getting the best player possible in the draft.
 
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