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Make the pick for the Future.....or trade it for 'now'?

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1 Eye Jack said:
Hate to disappoint people but if we aren’t top 3 my guess is we’ll trade one or both picks. They’ve made a promise to Dame to build around him so unless we get top 3 player they don’t fit Dames time frame.
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Trade for who is the question. Tell me who we'd be giving up the picks for. Another Robert Covington or Norman Powell?
 
handiman said:
That's not exactly how it began. "Hard to see Portland losing all their remaining games. That would be a 23 game losing streak. That's 10 more than the longest losing streak in Blazer history." The last portion is key to what I'm saying. This year's available roster is easily capable of beating the longest losing streak in team history. That's the half of your statement that's applicable to how bad this group is.
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here's what I'm saying: the NBA record for a losing streak in a season is 26 games. The longest losing streak in Blazer history, IIRC, is 13 games. Portland plays a lot of crappy teams the rest of the way. In fact, 14 of 20 games are against teams with losing records, and 10 of 20 games are against teams with records worse than Portland

there are just too many opportunities there for Portland to have a good game against a bad team having a bad game for the Blazers to go on that 23 game losing streak

I can see them going 4-16, or 3-17, or even 2-18 the rest of the way; but 0-20 is a bridge too far across the law of averages in the schedule they have
 
blazerkor said:
At this point I think that has to be the idea. Put the group out there that Chauncey can coach the hardest and the players can give it there all and we improve our chances of getting the best player possible in the draft.
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I hope so. Tonight Detroit is playing Indiana. One of those two teams will move closer to Portland in the win column. The Blazers need to keep their wins at 25.
 
wizenheimer said:
here's what I'm saying: the NBA record for a losing streak in a season is 26 games. The longest losing streak in Blazer history, IIRC, is 13 games. Portland plays a lot of crappy teams the rest of the way. In fact, 14 of 20 games are against teams with losing records, and 10 of 20 games are against teams with records worse than Portland

there are just too many opportunities there for Portland to have a good game against a bad team having a bad game for the Blazers to go on that 23 game losing streak

I can see them going 4-16, or 3-17, or even 2-18 the rest of the way; but 0-20 is a bridge too far across the law of averages in the schedule they have
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There's only one really bad team. That's Houston.
I think you're looking at their win-loss records and not looking at the rosters.
None of the "bad" teams has yet faced a team as bad as the Blazers.
The law of averages didn't work for the 76ers in their 26 losses in a row.
Edit: they might win some games if something unusual is happening, but I doubt they will be favored in any game for the rest of the season.
 
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The Blazers might win some games at the very end of the season if their lottery position has already been decided.
 
wizenheimer said:
over the last 37 games of the season, that team went 4-33. That's nearly half a season and that winning rate would translate to a 9-73 record over an entire year. That's a damn big sample size for comparing active rosters.

look, all I'm saying is that the current team ending the season with a 23 game losing streak is very unlikely. They will grab a win somewhere because they are going to be playing several games against other tanking teams.
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Houston without Dennis Schröder is a mess. It'll probably be them if he's not back.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Trade for who is the question. Tell me who we'd be giving up the picks for. Another Robert Covington or Norman Powell?
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Well the Blazers haven’t ended there pursuits of Jerami Grant yet. Detroit probably knows we’re hot for him!
 
blazerfan11 said:
Trade for who is the question. Tell me who we'd be giving up the picks for. Another Robert Covington or Norman Powell?
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not saying there is someone right now that I’d give up 2 picks for but with disappointment in playoff loses comes rebuilds/restructures so you never know who might come available. Team like Boston, or Atlanta might struggle in post season decide they need change. Just makes little sense if we can’t get difference makers in draft then projects don’t fit with this Dame restructure timeline. Then decision comes trade for whatever you can get or trade Dame
 
Pacers lost to the Pistons. That is a game we needed them to win. They don't have many other 'schedule wins' left.
 
TBpup said:
Pacers lost to the Pistons. That is a game we needed them to win. They don't have many other 'schedule wins' left.
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The Pistons are playing very well right now and it's possible they could also reach the Trail Blazers in the standings. Detroit needs to win 8 of their last 18 to pass the Blazers (and the Blazers need to lose all remaining games).
 
San Antonio and Sacramento can both reach the Blazers' current 25 wins with wins today. San Antonio plays the Hornets in Charlotte and Sacramento plays Dallas in Dallas.
A Sacramento win isn't likely (today at least) which is why the Blazers need to keep losing.
 
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"If CJ Elleby and Keljin Blevins are in your starting line up, the outcome is clear."

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"....co-starring, Drew Eubanks, Elijah Hughes, Keon Johnson, and a hopeful, Joe Cronin."
 
Today we're rooting for the Pacers (in Washington), the Nuggets (to beat the Pels in Denver), the Thunder (at home against the Jazz), and the Knicks (in LA against the Clippers). Denver is a favorite; the rest are underdogs.
 
The Knicks lead the Clippers by 24 points midway through the 3rd quarter. They may finally pass the Blazers in the standings.
Hello 8th place! (from the bottom)
One concern is that the Knicks have lost the last three games when they led by 20 points.
This game looks different. Mitchell Robinson is killing the Clips on the offensive boards.

The Blazers should easily get below San Antonio for the 7th spot since we play them three more times.
 
blazerfan11 said:
The Knicks lead the Clippers by 24 points midway through the 3rd quarter. They may finally pass the Blazers in the standings.
Hello 8th place! (from the bottom)
One concern is that the Knicks have lost the last three games when they led by 20 points.
This game looks different. Mitchell Robinson is killing the Clips on the offensive boards.

The Blazers should easily get below San Antonio for the 7th spot since we play them three more times.
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I think if we keep tanking unabashedly like we have been that we'll end up in the 4th spot.
 
Today's games:
Will the Kings finally get a win and tie the Trail Blazers with 25? (The Kings win the tie breaker with the Blazers.)
Edit: if they lose, the consolation is they lose to the Knicks, moving the Knicks further ahead of the Trail Blazers.

Will the Pistons win again and move up to 18 victories? Detroit has won 5 of the last 7 and 2 in a row. Today they play Atlanta in Detroit.
It will be interesting to see if anything changes for Detroit if they pass anyone in the standings. OKC has 20 wins, so they'd be the first team they'd move past.

The Lakers play the spurs. That's kind of a wash since Portland can lose to the Spurs three more times and we want the Lakers to stay ahead of the pelicans.
 
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Knicks won, so we are in sole position of #8. The Spurs and Kings are certainly within reach, and possibly Indiana, but they are tanking as well and 3 games will be quite a bit to make up in the remaining 19 games. To make up 5 games on OKC seems too large of a gap. We would basically have to lose out. Even just 1 win means OKC would have to get 6 wins in their final 18 games for us to catch them. They have nothing to play for so it would seem a stretch.

I think it's most likely 6th with an outside shot at #5.
 
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i don't think we'll catch indy or OKC.

SAC is it, leaving us with the 6th best odds. this is what we had when we got the Oden pick. These odds are a bit funky to wrap your head around. Even with the 6th best odds for #1, we are more than 3x likely to drop to @7 than get #6.
 
illmatic99 said:
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i don't think we'll catch indy or OKC.

SAC is it, leaving us with the 6th best odds. this is what we had when we got the Oden pick. These odds are a bit funky to wrap your head around. Even with the 6th best odds for #1, we are more than 3x likely to drop to @7 than get #6.
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Crazy to think that the league's worst team has nearly a 50% chance of dropping out of the top 4.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Crazy to think that the league's worst team has nearly a 50% chance of dropping out of the top 4.
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and yet contrary to popular belief, these revised odds have not deterred tanking. there are maybe 8 teams that are actively trying to lose every game.

moreso, i the existence of the PIT has contributed to affecting some teams' mindset to try to make the playoffs instead of losing on purpose.
 
Seems like someone that would fit well in our system/next to Ant and Dame

 
I think #6 is as high as we get as well....which by that chart, gives us a 37% chance of being in the Top-4, and a 50% chance of being #7/8. Very small chance of actually picking at #6.
 
Detroit wins again! They are now 6-2 in their last 8 games and have won 3 in a row.
The important number for us is that they now have 18 wins.
They have 17 games remaining, one in Detroit against the Blazers. So they only have to win 6 of the 16 non-blazer games to reach Portland's 25 wins. They would win the tie breaker by virtue of a better conference record.
 
I'm serious that we're going to out tank almost everyone, we won't catch Orlando or Houston but I really think we're going to end up in the third slot, which is the same as the first and second for lotto odds. At the very least or should I say most, I think we'll find our way to the fifth worst record.
 
blazerkor said:
I'm serious that we're going to out tank almost everyone, we won't catch Orlando or Houston but I really think we're going to end up in the third slot, which is the same as the first and second for lotto odds. At the very least or should I say most, I think we'll find our way to the fifth worst record.
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I can’t see us winning 5 games the rest of the season, especially if we keep guys like Ant off the floor
 
Here’s a question; let’s say we get up to 4. The first three go as expected. Who you taking? Ivey?
 
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