Keeping our pick? This might be a Lottery year (3 Viewers)

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JDC said:
Duren has improved quite a bit throughout the year too.

He still could be better handling those 2 on 1 situations defensively in pnr or in standard help situations, but that's normal for a big his age. Will make a couple wild passes a game but I like the instincts. Sees the passes, just needs to iron out the decision making.

But man, it is incredible how physically dominant he is for a guy that just turned 18.
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What I saw from Duren is night and day conpared to the clumsy dude I saw earlier in the season .
 
TBpup said:
32 points, 9 rebounds, and 3 assists....a lot to like.
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Good college player. Isn't gonna be a star level scorer in the league and will be questionable defensively. High floor but a lower ceiling compared to guys around him. Have yet to see him create out of pick n roll or impress me with his ball handling/passing ability.
 
It's only 1 in, but in the last 10 games, the Blazers have as good of, or better record than 11 of 14 teams in the Lottery. We won't win many games, but neither will many of these other teams.
 
Like Jabari Smith's defense a lot more than Keegan's and he's got more time to develop, but being a tall shooter that doesn't really create easy looks for himself or others is why I have a hard time taking him #1.

Like someone mentioned earlier on the thread though, if Jabari learns how to dribble, he easily could be the most valuable player on this draft.

I think ball handling is one of the tougher skills to develop though and Jabari is starting from a pretty low point.
 


Decent lineup in Moda on Thursday.

Duren & Holmgren both in PDX. Unfortunately won't be able to go up to scout these dudes in person.
 
BonesJones said:
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Thank you for doing that. I trust you more than most and I have a small bet with 3 of my closest college friends. I like kicking their asses and I need all the input I get can since I have not watched many non-Pac12 games this year until these last two weeks.
 
Sacramento finally gets a win, their 25th. Too bad the Blazers already have made it to 26.
The Kings beat the Bulls at home so maybe they have a chance against Milwaukee, Boston and Phoenix in their next three home games.
After that they have some easier games on the road.
 
Unfortunately the Blazers don’t have much luck when it comes to top Centers in the draft. Let’s not forget that.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Sacramento finally gets a win, their 25th. Too bad the Blazers already have made it to 26.
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Unless the idea is to get lucky with the ping pong balls and jump into the top-4, we should be thankful to be one spot ahead of Sacramento in the standings. They always pick the wrong guy, so that's one less for us to guess on.
 
Kings surprise, with a big, unexpected win against the Bulls. Blazers tied in the win column with the Spurs, and only 1 win behind the Kings.

#6 gives them around a 40% higher chance of getting into the Top-4 than being #8, and a 50% higher chance of getting #1.

The issue is the schedule. There are some VERY winnable games coming up that the Blazers need to find a way to come away with losses. Some of these teams are tanking as much as Portland.

@ Knicks
@ Nets
@ Pacers
@ Pistons
SPURS
ROCKETS
ROCKETS
THUNDER
PELICANS
@ Spurs
@ Spurs
@ Thunder
@ Pelicans
@ Mavericks
JAZZ

12 of the remaining 15 games are against Lottery teams, and 9 of those games are against teams currently with a worse record. This is typically where the Blazers go on a massive winning streak to give false hope going into the Playoffs. The Blazers are only 1.5 games out of the last Play-In spot.

Joe needs to make an executive decision to somehow do what it takes to ensure there are no unnecessary, useless wins. Losing sucks, but the bigger picture is at play here.
 
TBpup said:
Kings surprise, with a big, unexpected win against the Bulls. Blazers tied in the win column with the Spurs, and only 1 win behind the Kings.

#6 gives them around a 40% higher chance of getting into the Top-4 than being #8, and a 50% higher chance of getting #1.

The issue is the schedule. There are some VERY winnable games coming up that the Blazers need to find a way to come away with losses. Some of these teams are tanking as much as Portland.

@ Knicks
@ Nets
@ Pacers
@ Pistons
SPURS
ROCKETS
ROCKETS
THUNDER
PELICANS
@ Spurs
@ Spurs
@ Thunder
@ Pelicans
@ Mavericks
JAZZ

12 of the remaining 15 games are against Lottery teams, and 9 of those games are against teams currently with a worse record. This is typically where the Blazers go on a massive winning streak to give false hope going into the Playoffs. The Blazers are only 1.5 games out of the last Play-In spot.

Joe needs to make an executive decision to somehow do what it takes to ensure there are no unnecessary, useless wins. Losing sucks, but the bigger picture is at play here.
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I get it but even if he sets the vets, we have enough young players that are scrappy enough and wanting to justify their existence. I see maybe 5/6 wins?
 
Hunter from Atlanta was the 4th pick in the draft in 2019. Is he the type of player you are hoping we get and is that why Collins is expendable?
Is Hunter that much better than Watford?
 
TBpup said:
Kings surprise, with a big, unexpected win against the Bulls. Blazers tied in the win column with the Spurs, and only 1 win behind the Kings.

#6 gives them around a 40% higher chance of getting into the Top-4 than being #8, and a 50% higher chance of getting #1.

The issue is the schedule. There are some VERY winnable games coming up that the Blazers need to find a way to come away with losses. Some of these teams are tanking as much as Portland.

@ Knicks
@ Nets
@ Pacers
@ Pistons
SPURS
ROCKETS
ROCKETS
THUNDER
PELICANS
@ Spurs
@ Spurs
@ Thunder
@ Pelicans
@ Mavericks
JAZZ

12 of the remaining 15 games are against Lottery teams, and 9 of those games are against teams currently with a worse record. This is typically where the Blazers go on a massive winning streak to give false hope going into the Playoffs. The Blazers are only 1.5 games out of the last Play-In spot.

Joe needs to make an executive decision to somehow do what it takes to ensure there are no unnecessary, useless wins. Losing sucks, but the bigger picture is at play here.
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I don't think it's that hard, just tell Hart we're picking up his option for next season and tell him to rest his ailing whatever the fuck is ailing him because at this point in the season every player has something nagging that could be rested. If you take Hart out of that rotation, these teams that we are playing will beat us because, besides the Pacers, these other terrible teams aren't tanking they're just young and not very good but without Hart and everyone that's currently sitting, we're worse than all of them.
 
blazerkor said:
I don't think it's that hard, just tell Hart we're picking up his option for next season and tell him to rest his ailing whatever the fuck is ailing him because at this point in the season every player has something nagging that could be rested. If you take Hart out of that rotation, these teams that we are playing will beat us because, besides the Pacers, these other terrible teams aren't tanking they're just young and not very good but without Hart and everyone that's currently sitting, we're worse than all of them.
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Was just having that conversation with someone earlier today. Well done. Similar discussion as was had with Nurk.
 
TBpup said:
Was just having that conversation with someone earlier today. Well done. Similar discussion as was had with Nurk.
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It won't be much longer before Hart starts to get frustrated playing with some of these players and losing. He will welcome sitting on the bench next to Dame in street clothes.
 
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Idk, sounds like a Billups guy. If we get the pelicans pick, he should be in the mix.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Yes, Duren will be there with Sheed and Larry Brown, who are assistants for Penny Hardaway.
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thats actually pretty noteworthy, Billups is close with both of them. At this point I’d be surprised if we passed on him, unless we were in the top 3 or something.
 
I think the only notable weakness that sticks out to me about Duren (considering his role/skillset) is his footwork and extension when he has his back to the basket or he has a body between him and the rim. His touch when he faces the basket isn't bad but it really falls off when he's having to turn and find the rim.

It's not a huge issue as I really don't project him to be a post player. But as a big in the playoffs, I think we've seen that its still pretty important to be able to beat a switch more than just as an offensive rebounder. Harder to stay on the floor if you're not at the level where you're dictating the lineup the other team has to put on the floor.
 
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