Kelly Dwyer's Top 30 series continued: Centers 30-21

[Nikolokolus]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Ranking-the-centers-30-through-21?urn=nba-265324

Based on who's in the bottom third, I'd say there's not even a snowball's chance in hell Greg is listed in the next two parts.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

You'd say? Does this imply all of those centers are better than Oden? Which of these superior specimens would you trade for now?

 

[mook]

Kind of surprised he'd rank Chandler so low. I really like how he's looked on the USA team.

 

[HailBlazers]

there's not even a snowball's chance in hell Greg is listed in the next two parts.

Wanna Bet?

 

[Wheels]

if he would base it on games played I'm not sure how Cousins would be ahead of him. Just my thoughts though.

 

[blazerboy30]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Ranking-the-centers-30-through-21?urn=nba-265324

Based on who's in the bottom third, I'd say there's not even a snowball's chance in hell Greg is listed in the next two parts.

I understand that playing the devil's advocate around here with respect to Oden is so hip and cool right now, but try to use a little objectivity.

 

[BGrantFan]

As I posted previously, I wouldn't be surprised if Oden is left out of the rankings, and Camby is the center ranked for Portland.

 

[ebott]

I'm thinking the reason that Chandler is so low is injuries. Greg's injuries have been worse than Chandler. So it wouldn't surprise me if Greg were ranked lower than Chandler.

 

[ironcrotch]

Kind of surprised he'd rank Chandler so low. I really like how he's looked on the USA team.

I'm actually in the opposite camp, I think Chandler hasn't given USA anything. They need a low post game badly and Chandler kind of stands around waiting for the alley-oop.

Color me surprised JaVale McGee ranked so high.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Color me surprised JaVale McGee ranked so high.

Even though it is only #21, I agree. Think injuries and being backups hurt the others on the list.

I still take Oden's production this coming season over anyone on that list. Camby and Oden should make the next one.

 

[andalusian]

I'm thinking the reason that Chandler is so low is injuries. Greg's injuries have been worse than Chandler. So it wouldn't surprise me if Greg were ranked lower than Chandler.

I am thinking the opposite. Chandler, when healthy, is a nice player - but without an elite PG to throw him the Alley-oop, he is really nothing. Greg, when healthy, is an elite offensive and defensive force. I expect him to be close to #10 with a note that says that if he is healthy, he should be in the top-5.

 

[mook]

I'm actually in the opposite camp, I think Chandler hasn't given USA anything. They need a low post game badly and Chandler kind of stands around waiting for the alley-oop.

Man, it's like we're watching different games. I think he's had a huge impact on the defensive end. His offense (as always) is non-existent. But with the talent he's playing with, they don't really need him to score.

The team does lack post offense, but that's not his fault. They need an offensively talented power forward.

This is going to sound absolutely crazy, but this team could actually use Zach Randolph. He'd be the perfect complement to Chandler. It'd never happen because of his crazy history, but he'd be an absolute beast out there in a lineup with Durant (SF) and Chandler (C).

 

[noknobs]

Let's say he ranks all of the following above Oden:

Howard, Yao, B. Lopez, M. Gasol, Bogut, David Lee, Kaman, Noah, Bynum, Okafur, Jefferson, Horford, Camby, Beidrins, Hilario, Bargnani, & Hibbert.

That still leaves 3 spots to round out the top 20. And we're talking about guys like Nick Collison / Marcin Gortat / Spencer Hawes / Brendan Haywood / DeAndre Jordan / Nenad Kristic / Varejao / or Monroe/Aldrich.

So unless he ranks 3 of them over not only Greg Oden, but also the 21-30 guys, then I think it's safe to say Greg will get in. My guess, due to injury concerns, is #15. But of course I'd rank him higher.

 

[Cake]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Ranking-the-centers-30-through-21?urn=nba-265324

Based on who's in the bottom third, I'd say there's not even a snowball's chance in hell Greg is listed in the next two parts.

Really?

Javale McGee - #21
6.4 pts, 4.1 rebounds, 50.8% fg, 1.7 blocks, 16 minutes per game

Greg Oden - #?
11.1 pts, 8.5 rebounds, 60.5% fg, 2.3 blocks, 24 minutes per game

Yeah, yeah...the injuries. But that doesn't mean he's not going to be on this list. I'd guess just outside the top 10.

 

[Tom Cruise]

Who wants to bet that both Camby and Oden make the top 20

 

[Ed O]

Funny that there are so many pics with Ilgauskas in them

Ed O.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Funny that there are so many pics with Ilgauskas in them

Ed O.

Kinda like how they (ab)used Troy Murphy in the pics for the PF lists, put Lebron in all the SF pics, OJ Mayo throughout the SG lists, and Ty Lawson for the PGs. Makes me wonder why Kelly Dwyer chose to pick (on) those guys.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

11-20 is out--Camby is 15

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...1-through-11?urn=nba-265420#remaining-content

EDIT: Of noknobs' list below, 11 players still haven't been listed. So, not only will Oden not be in Dwyer's top 31, but Biedrins likely won't either. top 10 (in no particular order) will be Howard, B. Lopez, M. Gasol, Bogut, Kaman, Noah, Bynum, Jefferson, Nene, Horford

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Not the end of the world. Oden's future is a giant "IF" and it's only after this year that we'll see a "YES" or a "NO" even peek out from behind it. That said, I'd still extend him if possible. But that's the fan talking, not the GM.

 

[STOMP]

Greg will be in the top 10. Given the following quote from the article, bank on it

With Hibbert still a little untested and Camby possibly coming off the pine, I'm going with Varejao at 14.

STOMP

 

[Nate4Prez]

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Can't Wait For The Season To Start!

 

[hasoos]

Will these player rankings bring you solace if the Blazers don't do jack this year? Player rankings mean nothing to me.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

[video=youtube;1OdFLIRmzSg]

Can't Wait For The Season To Start!

What game was that from? I need to find it and play it again.

 

[Nate4Prez]

What game was that from? I need to find it and play it again.

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[Nate4Prez]

Will these player rankings bring you solace if the Blazers don't do jack this year? Player rankings mean nothing to me.

Lighten Up Francis.

It's the off-season. There's nothing else to talk about.

 

[Minstrel]

Will these player rankings bring you solace if the Blazers don't do jack this year?

Yes, because we'll have won the player ranking championship which just as prestigious as the NBA championship.

I don't know why you don't want to win championships.

 

[noknobs]

EDIT: Of noknobs' list below, 11 players still haven't been listed. So, not only will Oden not be in Dwyer's top 31, but Biedrins likely won't either. top 10 (in no particular order) will be Howard, B. Lopez, M. Gasol, Bogut, Kaman, Noah, Bynum, Jefferson, Nene, Horford

Yeah, wow, it appears I may have once again over estimated an 'expert'. This list is crazy. And he's now got two #21's, so it looks like he doesn't think Oden is top 31 at his position. He'd rather have 30 year old, 5.9/5.1/.6 Collison...? Unless he's not counting Jefferson as a center, but he wasn't ranked as a PF that I saw. Then maybe Oden would get it. Oh well, I'll live.

 

[maxiep]

I expect Greg to let his play do his talking for him. If healthy, GO is a top 2-3 center in the league.

 

[Nate4Prez]

Yeah, wow, it appears I may have once again over estimated an 'expert'. This list is crazy. And he's now got two #21's, so it looks like he doesn't think Oden is top 31 at his position. He'd rather have 30 year old, 5.9/5.1/.6 Collison...? Unless he's not counting Jefferson as a center, but he wasn't ranked as a PF that I saw. Then maybe Oden would get it. Oh well, I'll live.

Maybe Not.

 

[Nhawz]

Just fuel for Gregs fire!