Kenny Smith says "Blazers will be odd team left out"

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with video evidence of course so im not called a troll...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba;_ylt=Asm.9o6FFRKzqh5.Xy1ny_gRvLYF

same excuses you here around here.....we are too young and "we will" be good. its funny cause for a team thats gonna be so good, you would think they could scratch teh playoffs. Chris Paul gets his team there....but roy and aldridge cant? bad excuses. maybe its time someone said that maybe we aren't as good as most had hoped...talent wise.

anyway, he says suns and mavs will fight for 8 spot.


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I didn't bother to listen to his analysis, and I disagree with his conclusion, but I can understand why someone would pick the Blazers to be the team to miss out. Blazers are the youngest team and the most suseptible to hitting a team wall in the 2nd half. Also, one could argue they don't have the experience to know what it takes down the stretch of the season to make the playoffs.

But Blazer talent will overcome these factors . . .
 
I wonder if Mixum would ever post a positive quote or link. We could win the title and he'd still bitch about how next year we won't repeat.
 
I wonder if Mixum would ever post a positive quote or link. We could win the title and he'd still bitch about how next year we won't repeat.

It's probably not widely known, but MIXUM is a being made of dark matter, if he were ever to mix with anything positive, the space time continuum would collapse and the known universe would implode. I don't know about you, but I rather just go ahead and postpone the apocalypse for just a little while longer.
 
Chris Paul gets his team there....but roy and aldridge cant? bad excuses. maybe its time someone said that maybe we aren't as good as most had hoped...talent wise.
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Hate to say it, but the man has a point. Read any thread about potential trades, and it is painfully obvious that many Blazer fans have an inflated view of the value of our players. This roster does need tweaking.
 
It's probably not widely known, but MIXUM is a being made of dark matter, if he were ever to mix with anything positive, the space time continuum would collapse and the known universe would implode. I don't know about you, but I rather just go ahead and postpone the apocalypse for just a little while longer.

+1 :werd:
 
Hate to say it, but the man has a point. Read any thread about potential trades, and it is painfully obvious that many Blazer fans have an inflated view of the value of our players. This roster does need tweaking.

Sure, but not just for the sake of doing it. I just envision this year as a REALLY LONG preseason for next year and beyond. A trade consolidating will be made but it doesnt HAVE to be by this trade deadline...the offseason would work too.

Nobody except the biggest homers expected the Blazer to be a legitimate contender this year. They are actually ahead of schedule IMO.
 
Chris Paul gets his team there....but roy and aldridge cant? bad excuses. maybe its time someone said that maybe we aren't as good as most had hoped...talent wise.


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Who's making excuses? Kenny Smith? Who the fuck cares? The Blazers aren't making excuses - they fully plan on being in the playoffs and so do most of the posters on this board. Just because you're assuming the worst doesn't mean it's going to happen.
 
Of coarse there is a chance the Blazers don't make the playoffs. There are more analysts picking the Blazers to make the playoffs then not. I think Mixum would have posted more if there would have been more predicting the Blazers to be the odd team out. I'm not going to search for everyone's playoff predictions but have heard many say we are going to make the playoffs. I think we will still be a 6th-8th seed but anything is possible with 9 good teams.
 
There's a ridiculous "us versus them" mentality on this board. Some of you really need to get a clue. Kenny Smith has nothing against the Blazers, he's just calling it the way he sees it. We're not the victims of some NBA-wide conspiracy, and Smith has nothing personal against the Blazers. If any of us were sitting in his chair, we might even see things the way he does.
 
John Hollinger disagrees.

He has the Blazer's odds of making the play-offs at 95.5%. That's right behind the Rockets at 96% and ahead of the Jazz at 82.9% and well ahead of Phoenix (69.9%) and Dallas (58.2%).

BNM
 
The conservative bet is to say that the "proven" teams - Lakers, Spurs, Rockets, Jazz, Hornets, Nuggets, Suns, and Mavericks will the teams to make the playoffs.

But there are three teams that the Blazers are better than, at this point.

The Rockets are dealing with injury problems to their three best players, and that could easily be their downfall.

The Jazz have been dealing with the injury bug all season, and have been downright bad on the road.

The Suns just lost big to the Charlotte Bobcats and have lost three in a row.

I would give all four teams (the teams listed above + the Blazers) all a good chance of sitting out the post-season. I would disagree with Kenny, that the Blazers are the most likely of the nine contenders to miss. But it's no means a lock for Portland, either.
 
as a linguistics major, mixum's posts give me headaches
As a linguistics major, you should know that's a dangling modifier. It should read, "As a linguistic's major, I get a headache from mixum's posts."

But I understand your point.
 
as a linguistics major, mixum's posts give me headaches

How do you know he's a linguistics major? He could be a janitor for all I care, his posts would still give me a headache.
 
How do you know he's a linguistics major? He could be a janitor for all I care, his posts would still give me a headache.
I believe it's hoojacks who is the linguistics major. It's a confusing sentence, to be sure, which is why I objected to it.
 
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As a linguistics major, you should know that's a dangling modifier. It should read, "As a linguistic's major, I get a headache from mixum's posts."

But I understand your point.

I'm not so sure about "linguistic's", Shooter.

barfo
 
I believe it's hoojacks who is the linguistics major. It's a confusing sentence, to be sure, which is why I objected to it.

I know....:drumroll:
 
John Hollinger disagrees.

He has the Blazer's odds of making the play-offs at 95.5%. That's right behind the Rockets at 96% and ahead of the Jazz at 82.9% and well ahead of Phoenix (69.9%) and Dallas (58.2%).

BNM
i don't know if hollinger agrees or not, but he personally doesn't have the blazers odds of making the playoffs at 95.5%. his playoff odds formula does, but (unless i'm mistaken) his playoff odds formula doesn't take into account injuries or things of that nature and is all just based on how the teams have played statistically.

i'm almost certain if you were to ask hollinger about his playoff odds, he'd say they were a good tool to use in determining which teams are likely to make the playoffs but they don't represent the full picture of his views on the playoff picture.
 
whenever someone says that the blazers are going to be the team left out of the playoffs because they are too young, i stop listening. there are legitimate reasons to feel that the blazers have a chance at missing the playoffs but them being young isn't one of them.
 
.. legitimate reasons...

I think you're right, but I think that the "legitimate reasons" are somewhat related to their youth. For instance, the team is not as aggressive and intense on defense as they should be. But I think that's related to their inexperience, and doubts among certain players, about where they're supposed to be in different situations. Likewise, I think the Blazers' youth on offense contributes to making hasty decisions or being indecisive on offense, and thereby not making the most of their opportunities.

If the Blazers miss the playoffs, it will be indirectly because they're too young. It'll show up on the court in terms of teams exploiting their tentative defense, and their indecisive offensive schemes.
 
i don't know if hollinger agrees or not, but he personally doesn't have the blazers odds of making the playoffs at 95.5%. his playoff odds formula does, but (unless i'm mistaken) his playoff odds formula doesn't take into account injuries or things of that nature and is all just based on how the teams have played statistically.

i'm almost certain if you were to ask hollinger about his playoff odds, he'd say they were a good tool to use in determining which teams are likely to make the playoffs but they don't represent the full picture of his views on the playoff picture.

Of course the prediction doesn't include injuries. Injuries, by their very random nature are unpredictable.

Here's the description of the way the play-off odds predictor works, in Hollinger's own words:

"The idea is to predict what a team's odds are of making the playoffs, winning the division, making the Finals, etc., by simulating all the remaining games in the NBA season. We have a computer at ESPN headquarters in Bristol, Conn., that automatically plays out the rest of the season every night -- not once, but 5,000 times. And we can see from those 5,000 trials how many times a certain outcome resulted, then assign a probability from it. For example, if the Blazers make the playoffs in 2,500 of our trials, we say their odds of making the playoffs are 2,500 divided by 5,000, or 50 percent.

This tool doesn't just play out the regular season, though -- it plays out the postseason with seedings and even runs the draft lottery. As a result, we can get an idea of the probability of all sorts of outcomes; the most prominent is the team's median record from the 5,000 trials. As a reminder, this tool is completely, 100 percent automated, so my obvious, long-standing bias against your favorite team is not a factor here.

As always, the output of a product is only as good as its input, so let's explain a little about how this is derived. The computer starts with the day's Hollinger power rankings. Then, in each of the 5,000 times it replays the season, it makes a random adjustment up or down to allow for the possibility that a team will play better or worse than it has done thus far. (I call this the Anti-Dennis Green Postulate; i.e., maybe they aren't who we thought they were.)"

Of course, no system is perfect, but I'll take Hollinger's structured approach over Kenny Smith's random hunches. After all, Kenny Smith's hunches also don't account for injuries. Obviously, if Dallas loses Dirk or Phoenix loses Nash, it greatly impacts their odds of making the play-offs, but neither Hollinger's system, nor Kenny Smith's opinion take into account events neither is capable of predicting accurately.

BNM
 
Of course, no system is perfect, but I'll take Hollinger's structured approach over Kenny Smith's random hunches. After all, Kenny Smith's hunches also don't account for injuries. Obviously, if Dallas loses Dirk or Phoenix loses Nash, it greatly impacts their odds of making the play-offs, but neither Hollinger's system, nor Kenny Smith's opinion take into account events neither is capable of predicting accurately.

BNM
i know, but i was just commenting that i don't think it is accurate to pass off hollinger's playoff odds as hollinger's opinion of what is going to happen.

and when talking about injuries, i was referring to injuries that already occurred this season. it doesn't take into account that deron williams missed time early which obviously would effect the play of the jazz(and roy missing some games for the blazers, etc).
 
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I know there's still a lot of games to be played, and the Blazers haven't exactly been tearing up the league lately, but the 3 teams immediately behind us in the standings, Phoenix, Dallas and Utah all have a worse record than the Blazers over the last 10 games. The Blazers are 6 - 4 over the last 10 games. Phoenix is 5 - 5, Dallas is 4 - 6 and Utah is 5 - 5. So, even though the Blazers aren't currently playing their best ball, the teams we are fighting against to make the play-offs aren't gaining on us. They are actually losing ground.

BNM
 
Kenny Smith has his opinion. Mine differs. I'm cool with that.
 
Kenny Smith has his opinion. Mine differs. I'm cool with that.
What has Kenny Smith ever predicted? He seems like a nice enough guy and he did play in the league for a while, but I sure don't think of him as the brains on that TNT crew let alone Bball Nostradamus. I don't know how many times I've heard him start in on a metaphor and then just drop it (or start another) midway through a ramble. I'd be every bit as concerned if Kenny picked Portland to make the playoffs.

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