Kentucky clerk going to jail

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
Eastoff

Eastoff

But it was a beginning.
Joined
Jun 17, 2009
Messages
16,100
Likes
4,105
Points
113
I can't believe there isn't a thread about this?
 
The bottom line is:

Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Fuck that skank. I read she's been married 4 times. Fuck her.
Click to expand...

She was married to her 1st husband when she got pregnant by the man who would become her 3rd husband. But the man who became her 2nd husband adopted them. After he adopted the kids she divorced him and married the father of the kids. Nice scam! She tricked a man into paying for her kids.

Yet she feels qualified to pass judgement on who should and shouldn't be married.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
She was married to her 1st husband when she got pregnant by the man who would become her 3rd husband. But the man who became her 2nd husband adopted them. After he adopted the kids she divorced him and married the father of the kids. Nice scam! She tricked a man into paying for her kids.

Yet she feels qualified to pass judgement on who should and shouldn't be married.
Click to expand...

I Blame BLM
 
“The court cannot condone the willful disobedience of its lawfully issued order,” Judge Bunning said. “If you give people the opportunity to choose which orders they follow, that’s what potentially causes problems.”
 
I find the delving into her personal life distasteful.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Didn't she thrust herself into the middle of other people's personal lives when she refused to issue marriage licenses? She choose to put herself in the spotlight.
Click to expand...
You're right.



Unrelated- if you look at the bottom of the page for 'similar threads', Kentucky is getting some bad press at S2.
 
Man, what a waste of time and effort by everyone involved. She's clearly in the wrong (and that doesn't require making any statements about her personal life). Since she doesn't feel she can meet the legal requirements of her job due to her spin on her religious beliefs, she ought to quit. If not, the Kentucky legislatuer should impeach her or the good voters of Kentucky should remove her from office at the next election. That said, how tough is it really to get a marriage license issued in another county in Kentucky that has a more reasonable clerk? For what they're spending on legal fees, they could have a nice destination wedding somewhere. No, the couples shouldn't have to do that, but this country is so fricking litigious these days it's ridiculous.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
She was married to her 1st husband when she got pregnant by the man who would become her 3rd husband. But the man who became her 2nd husband adopted them. After he adopted the kids she divorced him and married the father of the kids. Nice scam! She tricked a man into paying for her kids.

Yet she feels qualified to pass judgement on who should and shouldn't be married.
Click to expand...
is that truthful?
 
Sign of the apocalypse? I agree with mediocre man. If doing your job violates your conscience to the point where you think it will land you in hell, quit the job.
Yes, 80K per year is in the upper 1% in rural Kentucky, but hey, she'll do a week in jail, make the rounds of the right wing talk shows, have a book deal, and make millions as a Christian martyr.

Her personal life would be no one else's business had she not chosen to set herself up as arbiter. Her Christian bible is very clear on divorce and adultery. And on rendering unto Ceaser. Not a word on marriage equality (probably because back then marriages were arranged and no one cared who the people involved wanted to be with).

She put her hand on the bible and swore an oath to uphold the laws of the State of Kentucky.

Seems the deputy clerks were willing to issue licenses (except her son) but she intimidated them into refusing. Now latest is a deal was brokered whereby they would issue licenses and she would get out of jail; she ordered them to not issue the licenses.
 
Her end game is to get fired for cause so she can collect unemployment. If she resigns, she likely wouldn't be able to claim unemployment unless she claims hostile work enviroment.
She'll probably file a civil lawsuit as well.
 
crandc said:
Sign of the apocalypse? I agree with mediocre man. If doing your job violates your conscience to the point where you think it will land you in hell, quit the job.
Yes, 80K per year is in the upper 1% in rural Kentucky, but hey, she'll do a week in jail, make the rounds of the right wing talk shows, have a book deal, and make millions as a Christian martyr.

Her personal life would be no one else's business had she not chosen to set herself up as arbiter. Her Christian bible is very clear on divorce and adultery. And on rendering unto Ceaser. Not a word on marriage equality (probably because back then marriages were arranged and no one cared who the people involved wanted to be with).

She put her hand on the bible and swore an oath to uphold the laws of the State of Kentucky.

Seems the deputy clerks were willing to issue licenses (except her son) but she intimidated them into refusing. Now latest is a deal was brokered whereby they would issue licenses and she would get out of jail; she ordered them to not issue the licenses.
Click to expand...

To be fair, and I know that's not much of motivator on the web, her divorces reportedly took place before her conversion. That said, please be careful in tossing around cases like this as representative of the views of a majority of Christians. Sure, there are plenty of cake-bakers and others like her with similar views, but things are changing and there are a wide range of positions among various denominations and believers.
 
Civil disobedience is a cornerstone of a free society. She knew she was flaunting the law and chose to act illegally anyway. To me, it's no different than the Greenpeace protesters who dangled from the St. John's Bridge to delay the Shell ice-breaker. As the old saying goes, "I may disagree with what you're saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." She will be recalled and lose her (employment) position, and by her actions will have drawn nationwide attention to her (political/moral) position. As long is she is willing to accept the consequences of her actions, I have no problem with either her or with the officials who discipline her.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I have no problem with her convictions, but she has a job to do.

If her convictions prevented her from doing that job, she should step down from her 80k per year job.
Click to expand...

Shouldn't the same go for other public officials who ignore the immigration laws in this country?

:MARIS61:
 
Divorces taking place before conversion is what people with an agenda will conveniently leave out
 
Mediocre Man said:
Divorces taking place before conversion is what people with an agenda will conveniently leave out
Click to expand...

She is claiming they violate her personal beliefs which are her own interpretations based on her faith. The divorce, cheating, eating 5000 dicks thing is irrelevant to her core complaint.
 
I do find it ironic how the SJWs have started slut-shaming this woman though.
 
I don't claim all Christians share her views/actions.

This is not civil disobedience and not free speech. The Greenpeace protesters were not saying they should be able to refuse to do the job they were hired to do, in order to discriminate against the very people who pay their high salary. The Civil Rights protesters were protesting to make laws more fair and knew they faced consequences. No one is denying this woman the right to speech. She can say what she wants, on her time, not the taxpayers'. She can attend any church she wants, where they preach any kind of hate she sympathizes with; she cannot force the county to live by her church. She can either do her job or quit.

And I know her divorces and adultery supposedly took place before she was born the second time. So what? She never argued that she should have been denied a second, third, fourth marriage license. I'm personally sick of bad behavior by those who claim to be my superiors because they are straight.
 
crandc said:
I don't claim all Christians share her views/actions.

This is not civil disobedience and not free speech. The Greenpeace protesters were not saying they should be able to refuse to do the job they were hired to do, in order to discriminate against the very people who pay their high salary. The Civil Rights protesters were protesting to make laws more fair and knew they faced consequences. No one is denying this woman the right to speech. She can say what she wants, on her time, not the taxpayers'. She can attend any church she wants, where they preach any kind of hate she sympathizes with; she cannot force the county to live by her church. She can either do her job or quit.

And I know her divorces and adultery supposedly took place before she was born the second time. So what? She never argued that she should have been denied a second, third, fourth marriage license. I'm personally sick of bad behavior by those who claim to be my superiors because they are straight.
Click to expand...
How is it not civil disobedience? What is the definition their? Is it not willful non-violent refusal to follow a law for a political purpose?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

truebluefan
Citing God's authority, clerk defies U.S. top court on gay marriages
Replies
0
Views
275
truebluefan
truebluefan
SlyPokerDog
OT Black teen ran out with a $2 beer. Then a Tennessee store clerk followed him and shot him dead
2 3
Replies
61
Views
2K
Lanny
Lanny
SlyPokerDog
Man robs bank to get medical care in jail
Replies
23
Views
2K
MARIS61
MARIS61
Chris Craig
OT MAGA Election Clerk Accused of Not Counting Ballots, Allowing Access To Voting Machines, On The Run
Replies
6
Views
369
Lanny
Lanny
dviss1
Politics Sen. Rand Paul assaulted at his Kentucky home, man arrested
2
Replies
37
Views
2K
barfo
barfo

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top